Speculation: Roster Building Thread: Part L

[kovazub94]

Incriminating pictures

Ownership level

 

[duhmetreE]

How good is Frost? Potentially Brayden Point good?

 

[kovazub94]

Signing Zibanejad long-term is a risk and one I think the Rangers might be better off avoiding.

I feel like everyone here is consciously trying not to discuss this, myself included.

 

[Levitate]

I feel like everyone here is consciously trying not to discuss this, myself included.

Bottom line is that if the Rangers don't have another 1C lined up somehow then you basically have to re-sign him even if you're worried it'll go bad down the road. There's no way this team can compete without a real 1C

 

[GeorgeKaplan]

I feel like everyone here is consciously trying not to discuss this, myself included.

I brought it up before this season and everyone got mad at me. But I've also been pretty negative about some contracts quite a bit the past few weeks and I'm trying not to harp on things and bog everything down

 

[DanielBrassard]

I feel like everyone here is consciously trying not to discuss this, myself included.

Well with the lack of depth it's troubling to think what happens if he does walk, so I don't blame people.

 

[Adam Fox Time]

I would focus on signing Barkov over Zibanejad in 2022 unless Zib takes a team-friendly deal.

 

[kovazub94]

@RangerBoy would have no problem starting to stir sh*t around here talking about trading Zibanejad with 2-years left on the contract.

 

[GoAwayPanarin]

Well with the lack of depth it's troubling to think what happens if he does walk, so I don't blame people.

But at the same time, who knows what the hell this team looks like by then.

 

[NYR]

@RangerBoy would have no problem starting to stir sh*t around here talking about trading Zibanejad with 2-years left on the contract.

Having a different view than yourself doesn't = Stirring shit.

Good job to those that drove him off the site though.
You should feel proud smh

 

[DanielBrassard]

But at the same time, who knows what the hell this team looks like by then.

That's true as well, and who knows what other potential acquistions might be available.

 

[Tawnos]

But at the same time, who knows what the hell this team looks like by then.

Hell, Chytil might blossom into what we thought he might be when we saw him 2 years ago. Likely? Maybe not. But still possible.

 

[wafflepadsave]

If I'm desperate (like last week I was re-doing my kitchen cabinets and couldn't use the kitchen) I'll order Jets pizza. It's edible and no worse than 90% of the mom and pop places that deliver in Nashville. The rest of the chains are garbage.

Mellow mushroom is pretty good.

 

[GoAwayPanarin]

Hell, Chytil might blossom into what we thought he might be when we saw him 2 years ago. Likely? Maybe not. But still possible.

Or who knows, perhaps Buffalo blows again next year and Eichel demands a trade.

We'll have a shit load of open space and a loaded system to get a trade done. Run with Zib/Eichel for a year and then let Zib walk.

 

[wafflepadsave]

There’s a great pizza place in Nashville called Five Point Pizza

Cool springs has Old Chicago.

 

[Tawnos]

Or who knows, perhaps Buffalo blows again next year and Eichel demands a trade.

We'll have a shit load of open space and a loaded system to get a trade done. Run with Zib/Eichel for a year and then let Zib walk.

Which is why, I think we agree, this topic is one of the more pointless ones for at least another season and a half.

 

[Allan92]

I would kill to get Eichel on this team.

But Zibanejad has a good thing going here and he seems to fit this team like a glove, can't see any scenario we don't re-sign him to be honest. I'm also confident he clocks in at a pretty reasonable price

 

[NYR Viper]

I’d rather trade Kreider and sign both Zib and Barkov. In all seriousness, Zib may not ask for a 7-8 year deal and he may come back next year and score 60 points. So many variables

 

[GoAwayPanarin]

I’d rather trade Kreider and sign both Zib and Barkov. In all seriousness, Zib may not ask for a 7-8 year deal and he may come back next year and score 60 points. So many variables

Thats going to be rather tough to do.

 

[egelband]

You've got to try to bridge Tony for 2 years, he won't accept 3 but a decent raise likely means 2 years. This gives management the flexibility to see if he can repeat his scoring, if so then he's massively valuable in a hockey trade. If Lundqvist makes him expendable then oh well. Personally I'll take a two-way puck mover on an ELC than a 60 point D man who just isn't great in his own zone. Especially with Fox and Trouba already here, both of whom can play the pp. We'll see next year if Fox brakes 50 points, I think he will and we also know Trouba is capable 40+ while playing big pk minutes as well. But we have a season or two to watch the righty D spots play out.

Regarding left D, I would try to plug a hole there now with an under radar pickup like a Haydn Fleury. Someone who will be cost-effective, gives the lefty prospects time to develop in the minors and who still has some boom potential. He's a young vet already and come 2021-22 when Smith and Staal are off the books, can handle top4 duty without forcing someone like Miller or Hajek into minutes they shouldn't handle.

I'd just be super careful and not move any of the top prospects, and not give out long term contracts to players you see a possibly replaceable within 2-3 years. This team is not 1 or 2 moves away from competing, so let young players gain the experience. Let the really young guys develop overseas or in junior. Continue to capitalize on value of older players who need contracts, be it Fast, Strome or Ada.

Sure. But i think Carolina likes him a lot. Can anyone verify that? I don’t think he’s an easy get.

 

[SA16]

I think you are really kidding yourself if you think Zibanejad is not going to be looking for a huge deal. The only scenario I see that occurring is if his next two years are bad/full of injuries.

 

[egelband]

Mostly agree. Fleury's not likely to be readily available though. He took some steps for Carolina last year that they wanted to see. He's big and he's young.

To me Mika should be our next big and long term contract. This three years of flat cap which might last even longer than that could turn into an issue down the road if we're not careful about handing out huge contracts to everybody. Really I think Kreider gets moved if the Rangers knew what was coming with this pandemic. I'm pretty damn sure as well that the Rangers will want to lock up Lafreniere as soon as possible and then when you think of others like Kakko, Shesterkin and Fox I think we can see how that could spiral out of control really easily.

Yep. I’m non capologist but I can’t see any way they can add even one more big contract. Maybe a very short term one would be ok but in a few years they’ll be carrying Panarin, Kreider, Kakko, Igor, Lafreniere, Trouba, Fox, hopefully Mika and ADA. That’s already a stretch and will probably require a bunch of juggling. I don’t see any room for Georgiev, Buch, Strome getting their UFA deals with the Rangers, let alone any other big names.

 

[duhmetreE]

I feel like I'm the only one who doesn't understand or want Eichel.

 

[Shesterkybomb]

I would kill to get Eichel on this team.

But Zibanejad has a good thing going here and he seems to fit this team like a glove, can't see any scenario we don't re-sign him to be honest. I'm also confident he clocks in at a pretty reasonable price

If he continues his play he will be north of 9 mill.

 

[and 99 others]

This conversation is getting a little off-topic, can we go back to discussing the pros and cons of signing DeAngelo to a long term contract? I'll start with the cons:



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