Speculation: Roster Building Thread: Part L
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If Lundqvist does not stay in NY as a backup, I’d prefer to trade him with retention rather than buy him out. Better financially for the Rangers if they can find a team that can manage the cap. Real dollars not an issue.
Werenski And McAvoy signed 3 year deals with the third year being the highest value to up their qualifying offers.
Tony’s gonna do the same thing if he can’t get term
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The other guys are still RFA’s at the end in Werenski and McAvoy. They were a year younger when they signed theirs. It’s a big difference
Thee was a change(don’t know the exact wording) but qualifying offers going forward on new contracts are based on contract average and not the final year. Advantage owners.
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Henrik is pretty much untradeable and that's been the case for at least a couple years. Most teams these days don't operate with a lot of cap space and taking an $8.5 mil per 35 + year old goalie when there are other cheaper options doesn't make a lot of sense especially if you have a pretty good starter. As players get older there are diminishing returns and a diminishing number of team available for them--it's the cap issue and more often some decline--you certainly don't want to get stuck paying a lot of cap for a guy who can't deliver anymore.
Henrik is still capable of playing very well in spurts and I think he's fooled by it. He's a competitive guy and he doesn't want to give up and it sucks that he's not the same player and really it's not something he did wrong---this is all very natural--the older one gets the more shit happens to you. I'll say it again---whoever backs up for the Rangers this year absolutely will have to at least break even in wins and losses or there is going to be a tremendous amount of pressure on Shesterkin. Subpar backup goaltending could easily cost us a playoff position---our margins for being in or out are very likely to be very slim. If Henrik is the backup and doesn't hold up his end and we end up out that's not a great final chapter to his story here.
Henrik is still capable of playing very well in spurts and I think he's fooled by it. He's a competitive guy and he doesn't want to give up and it sucks that he's not the same player and really it's not something he did wrong---this is all very natural--the older one gets the more shit happens to you. I'll say it again---whoever backs up for the Rangers this year absolutely will have to at least break even in wins and losses or there is going to be a tremendous amount of pressure on Shesterkin. Subpar backup goaltending could easily cost us a playoff position---our margins for being in or out are very likely to be very slim. If Henrik is the backup and doesn't hold up his end and we end up out that's not a great final chapter to his story here.
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I'd check in with FLA and see if Acciari can be had. I know he shot 19% last year, but he hits like a lunatic, is in his prime, plays every shift hard, etc. He also won 48% of his draws last year. He'd make a solid 3C or 4C. Also on a sweet $1.67M per deal for another couple years. Would send back Howden. FLA gets a young piece for their future.
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I imagine Tony’s agent will ask for either a 3 year deal, or a two year so they can do a high salary QO for the third year to go right into UFA
This guy wants to get paid, he’s not been shy about it
This guy wants to get paid, he’s not been shy about it
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In a vacuum, i'd agree.
Because its complicated, and NYR not Cup contenders '20-21, waiting a year may be needed.
Due to Exp Draft, adding that LHD now, also means moving ADA now. Not a terrible idea, his value should be high.
The ~$25M in expiring contracts(Hank, Shatty, Staal, Smith) add to nearterm complications given flat Cap.
Guys similar to proposed above should be in play in a year.
And who knows, maybe Robertson, or Reunanen, or other, make that less urgent...
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Yeah, I'm not evaluating the career move if that's what he chooses to do but I think he's going to Brodeur it if he's not the #2 here. Right or wrong.
normally I’d say sure that possible.
but this summer? With everything going on? The delayed start? The opportunity to play in Sweden before he turns 39 And more importantly the amount of BETTER goalies very much available I’d be shocked if it makes sense for him.
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I don’t know if it’s fair to say NYR aren’t Cup contenders in a weak Eastern Conference. They have two Hart candidates and there is no reason full season Igor can’t do what Carter Hart did. I don’t think the expansion draft hurts them either. They can go 4F/4D and be fine because of all their ELC forwards. Even if you get a rental stop gap like Brodin/Martínez/etc or a RFA guy you’re can bridge cheaper than DeAngelo (Dunn?) it helps. Trouba needs help now, and this way the don’t need to rush a guy into that role that might not be ready.
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Quinn was brought in here to develop the young players. That’s what he is know for, being a development coach. He was not known as a systems coach. Once he develops that talent we have they will either bring in a systems coach To assist Quinn or a new head coach capable of implementing a winning game systems.
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Robertson is a good prospect but he's still 2 seasons away at the bare minimum.
Reaunanen- I don't see a path to the NHL for him. Too many glaring holes in his game.
Miller is still a big ???
Zac Jones still has probably 2-3 years to develop left too.
Lots of good prospects, but none are close in my opinion.
Reaunanen- I don't see a path to the NHL for him. Too many glaring holes in his game.
Miller is still a big ???
Zac Jones still has probably 2-3 years to develop left too.
Lots of good prospects, but none are close in my opinion.
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Agreed! LD needs to be fixed to some degree, and probably at a shorter term (1-3 year) so things can be re-evaluated once K. Miller and others have had a chance to develop some.
Hampus Lindholm has been mentioned by several on here. Someone like him would be awesome, but the cost to attain him is probably higher than the Rangers would be willing to go. I don't think the Ducks would be interested in DeAngelo for him. I think they would want some combination of good prospects and picks.
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So 2 years then right? He'll be UFA eligible after 3. I don't see the Rangers doing 3 unless it's for a very team friendly cap hit.
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Interesting, may be first time reading suggestion NYR go 4/4 in '21 Exp drft
... assuming roster similar to today.
So at F, you'd protect?
Bread, Zib, Chytil, Kreider?
So at F, expose Buch, Howden, Gauth, Lemieux, (Strome), (Fast), Lias, (Gettinger) ?
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