Roster Building Thread - Part II: Entry Draft Edition

[HFsNumber1Heel]

I got frustrated w Renney at the end, it began to feel like he'd rather lose 2-1 than win 6-4

He lost Jagr/Straka/Shanny, Nylander was two seasons removed. the best hope was Zherdev becoming an impact player and Naslund finding the fountain of youth.

Plus the defense most of that year had a very young yet to hit their peak Staal/Girardi, and Kulinin was the #6. He had to play a glorified trap to stay in games.

 

[EdJovanovski]

Some say he can even play D and has the potential to be a starting goalie

He actually could

He could be our coach & GM too as he took courses on sports management and coaching in his D+1 season. I doubt it’ll happen yet but when he’s in his mid 30’s I wouldn’t be surprised if he’s a player-coach

 

[The Crypto Guy]

We're not in our window? We were in the EC final. Igor is signed to a good contract for the next few years. Mika, Panarin and Kreider aren't getting younger.

When the hell ARE we going to be in our window if not now?

Now, that doesn't mean I necessarily want Kane or any specific player, but to say this isn't the beginning of the window of Cup chances?

Not in window. Were the habs in their window when they went to the SCF?

 

[GoAwayPanarin]

I wish we had Renney after AV was fired.

He served his purpose and it was time to move on when we did.

If I had to rank the ranger coaches post lock out it'd look something like this

Torts
Gallant (prob INC as hes only been here a year)
Renney












Quinn














AV

 

[HFsNumber1Heel]

I wish we had Renney after AV was fired.

He served his purpose and it was time to move on when we did.

If I had to rank the ranger coaches post lock out it'd look something like this

Torts
Gallant (prob INC as hes only been here a year)
Renney












Quinn














AV

You can't argue with AV's success. One SCF and one ECF, a President's Trophy and Division title.

 

[QJL]

At this point any young backup goalie should want to join the Rangers. You will undoubtedly improve and it’s a certain path to a real opportunity elsewhere.

 

[GoAwayPanarin]

You can't argue with AV's success. One SCF and one ECF, a President's Trophy and Division title.

On the backs of his predecessors guys.

To his credit, he was great in his first year but after that it was a constant regression into an eventual train wreck. Flat out blew the Ottawa series in 2017 with his coaching and lets not forget that he voluntarily threw Tanner Glass out there in 2015 when Sather traded for a better player to replace him. Not to mention how terribly he misued Yandle after we paid a fortune to get him.

 

[Payote75]

I understand we need to find money everywhere and anywhere but can't dump reaves. You need his presence and even though it's not 1986 his presence is important. See Tom Wilson. People like Trouba Blais eventually Scheinder and others that usually don't play chippy won't be as aggressive if they don't have a policeman and other teams will go right back to smashing us. We don't have that in the lineup or in the minors from what I see so that's a dangerous game to play again. I don't want trouba having to turn into Brendan Smith because we have nobody.

 

[Kaapo Cabana]

Kakko has two jobs this offseason; get quicker and shoot from every angle. No passing next year please unless he's doing that Gretzky's office trick which worked at least 3x in the playoffs.

So for a backup, I'm curious what trading Husso means for the Blues and Charlie Lindgren. Are they going to try and resign him now with a few days left or is Ryan pitching for him to come here?

I expect Kakko and Motte extensions in the next 2-3 days. Rangers nee PKers badly if Strome/Copp/Rooney are walking.

Strome and Rooney were garbage penalty killers and can be replaced by literally anybody

 

[Oscar Lindberg]

Strome and Rooney were garbage penalty killers and can be replaced by literally anybody

Right? lmao

Imagine thinking those guys are going to be tough to replace on the PK lol

 

[HFsNumber1Heel]

Strome and Rooney were garbage penalty killers and can be replaced by literally anybody

But you still need bodies. Right now it's only Ziba/Kreider/Goodrow.

Until they have guys who actually can do it, their PK situation us dire.

Right? lmao

Imagine thinking those guys are going to be tough to replace on the PK lol

Ok but once again, it's not how good or bad they were, they literally only have three guys on the active roster who are PKers.

We all remember how bad the PK was under Quinn. Until it's addressed, it's a big problem.

For anyone who says otherwise, name some PK help.

 

[HFsNumber1Heel]

I understand we need to find money everywhere and anywhere but can't dump reaves. You need his presence and even though it's not 1986 his presence is important. See Tom Wilson. People like Trouba Blais eventually Scheinder and others that usually don't play chippy won't be as aggressive if they don't have a policeman and other teams will go right back to smashing us. We don't have that in the lineup or in the minors from what I see so that's a dangerous game to play again. I don't want trouba having to turn into Brendan Smith because we have nobody.

Reaves was also big in the lockeroom. I'm not saying he has to stay and may be included in a trade, but as another poster said, the TDA/Georgiev of Lemieux acting up stuff doesn't happen if Reaves was around.

 

[Do you want ants]

But you still need bodies. Right now it's only Ziba/Kreider/Goodrow.

Until they have guys who actually can do it, their PK situation us dire.



Ok but once again, it's not how good or bad they were, they literally only have three guys on the active roster who are PKers.

We all remember how bad the PK was under Quinn. Until it's addressed, it's a big problem.

For anyone who says otherwise, name some PK help.

I don’t see Hunt or Kakko being any worse than those 2. We might also resign Motte.

 

[Kaapo Cabana]

My brain hurts. This is so hard to read. Just go:

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I’d love Copp as our 2C for the right cost/term. I think a lot of posters here are forgetting how good he was before getting banged up.

Copp isn’t just right for the 2C, he is the perfect insurance policy if we want to let chytil see if he can take 2C. He’s also a Swiss Army knife that can move up and down the lineup when the inevitable injuries hit. Can play all 3 forward positions. He’s also defensively responsible. He also looked awesome here, and seems to have the clutch gene. He’s more valuable than just his point totals.

I don’t know why everybody here is so against this move. The money isn’t prohibitive long term. We still have plenty of options. We still have buyouts coming off the board next year.

PLD doesn’t move the needle that much more than Copp.

Kane isn’t a center, is much older, and has a more prohibitive cap hit.

Both will cost an arm and a leg to acquire.

We have a ridiculously young team with quite a few players poised to take a step forward next year, and Copp helps facilitate this better than the other 2 options.

Anything we do will be a risk, but signing Copp seems like the smartest gamble.

 

[HFsNumber1Heel]

On the backs of his predecessors guys.

To his credit, he was great in his first year but after that it was a constant regression into an eventual train wreck. Flat out blew the Ottawa series in 2017 with his coaching and lets not forget that he voluntarily threw Tanner Glass out there in 2015 when Sather traded for a better player to replace him. Not to mention how terribly he misued Yandle after we paid a fortune to get him.

You are what you record says you are.

Torts doesn't take that 2013-14 team to the SCF or the 2014-15 team to the ECF.

The 2016-17 team doesn't do as well with other coaches.

I'm not saying he was perfect and didn't have his flaws, but statistically he's the most successful coach here since Mike Keenan.

 

[GoAwayPanarin]

But you still need bodies. Right now it's only Ziba/Kreider/Goodrow.

Until they have guys who actually can do it, their PK situation us dire.



Ok but once again, it's not how good or bad they were, they literally only have three guys on the active roster who are PKers.

We all remember how bad the PK was under Quinn. Until it's addressed, it's a big problem.

For anyone who says otherwise, name some PK help.

Kreider never killed penalties until last year.

They’ll find guys. I’ve wanted them to use Chytil on the PK for a while now. I won’t say it’s an easy thing to do but it’s not that dire, especially if Motte returns.

 

[HFsNumber1Heel]

I don’t see Hunt or Kakko being any worse than those 2. We might also resign Motte.

If Hunt is in the lineup as a regular that's a problem.

Until Motte is resigned he's not.

I am very patient and have not given up on Kakko but he was a below average PKer. He needs to work on his speed and cuts this summer to take it to the next level.

Kreider never killed penalties until last year.

They’ll find guys. I’ve wanted them to use Chytil on the PK for a while now. I won’t say it’s an easy thing to do but it’s not that dire, especially if Motte returns.

Kreider had the raw talent and speed already. Kakko doesn't have that level of speed.

If Motte is signed that is great but so far nothing and we're about four days away from FA.

Cullye might be an option but he needs to make the team first.

 

[HFsNumber1Heel]

At this point any young backup goalie should want to join the Rangers. You will undoubtedly improve and it’s a certain path to a real opportunity elsewhere.

If they go young and cheap then the best two options are Charlie Lindgren or Eric Comrie. The former has basically proven what he needs to at the AHL level and can play with his brother. The later got 20 games last year on a mediocre Jets team and is two years younger.

Allaire's choice.

 

[NickyFotiu]

No signs that we are trading Kakko but do you guys think his value was more or less than Dach? Or exactly the same? Their stats were near identical.

 

[Do you want ants]

If Hunt is in the lineup as a regular that's a problem.

Until Motte is resigned he's not.

I am very patient and have not given up on Kakko but he was a below average PKer. He needs to work on his speed and cuts this summer to take it to the next level.



Kreider had the raw talent and speed already. Kakko doesn't have that level of speed.

If Motte is signed that is great but so far nothing and we're about four days away from FA.

Cullye might be an option but he needs to make the team first.

Hunt is a good 4th liner. Better than Rooney. People just hate him bc he got played on the 2nd line when he shouldn’t have.

Either way we have essentially 2 Pk pairs currently on the team with the potential of resigning or adding a third on top of a few internal options. Not really a concern for me at this point.

 

[Avery16]

On the backs of his predecessors guys.

To his credit, he was great in his first year but after that it was a constant regression into an eventual train wreck. Flat out blew the Ottawa series in 2017 with his coaching and lets not forget that he voluntarily threw Tanner Glass out there in 2015 when Sather traded for a better player to replace him. Not to mention how terribly he misued Yandle after we paid a fortune to get him.

As if the names Erik Christensen and Mike Rupp mean nothing.

 

[Tob]

teams still interested in giving Kane a long term big money contract.

 

[GoAwayPanarin]

If Hunt is in the lineup as a regular that's a problem.

Until Motte is resigned he's not.

I am very patient and have not given up on Kakko but he was a below average PKer. He needs to work on his speed and cuts this summer to take it to the next level.



Kreider had the raw talent and speed already. Kakko doesn't have that level of speed.

If Motte is signed that is great but so far nothing and we're about four days away from FA.

Cullye might be an option but he needs to make the team first.

Brian Boyle was slow as balls and he’s probably the best pure PK’er we’ve had since the lockout. Sean Couturier isn’t fast either and at his peak he was a phenomenal penalty killer.

You don’t have to be fast to be a good penalty killer.

 

[deathb4disco]

teams still interested in giving Kane a long term big money contract.

When did Pat Kane become a power forward? Cam Neely is throwing up in a garbage can after reading that tweet

 

[GoAwayPanarin]

Evander Kane would be such a dino lou move.