Speculation: Roster Building Thread LXXXVI: Spring into action (GMJG outta hibernation?)

[DutchShamrock]

If there was a line forming for punching Quinn, I would be the guy with brass knuckles in the queue. And even I don't see the issue with Kravtsov sitting a couple of games after his transcontinental flight and 7 day quarantine.

I think they are blaming the coaching situation as a diplomatic reason for waiting. But it's not a problem yet. We should at least wait until VK is getting 3 minutes a night or benched for going below the blue line on offense or taking a penalty.

 

[NYSPORTS]

Game day - this season we waiting so long for is moving by too fast

 

[kovazub94]

I'm saying that is ridiculous in this situation. I understand it is what is happening, but my original comment was that I don't agree with it. If he can change the lines and try to make things work in game, then he should also have some autonomy here on who dresses when looking at the lower level players on this roster. It is just my opinion...

Yeah, you can agree or disagree.

Take a level higher for illustration - if Gorton is on vacation and leaves day to day operations to Drury - can Drury make a trade with his autonomy of GM duties during this time without getting an ok from Gorton?

 

[bleedblue94]

Yeah, you can agree or disagree.

Take a level higher for illustration - if Gorton is on vacation and leaves day to day operations to Drury - can Drury make a trade with his autonomy of GM duties during this time without getting an ok from Gorton?

If a gm goes on leave then yes (Sandy Alderson going on LOA w the Mets), it is no different than in intern gm making moves while a new one is hired (Gorts exact situation in Boston). As I said, if Knoblauch is entrusted to make in game adjustments such as moving KK up to the 2nd line or time distributions for players (which he admitted he lost the kid line in the second Washington game), then is he really not capable of deciding is blackwell, goat, etc dont dress? The man can decide to bench a player in game but he cant decide who to actually dress for said game?

 

[cwede]

FWIW


Gauthier to Habs for younger Tuch should be on the table,
if his minutes are destined to Krav or Barron ...

 

[LaffyTaffy]

Mika-Chytil-Lowry?-Barron/Raty?

Or a half gutted team?

Lowry?? Whatd we get for Strome in this scenario

 

[Kodiak]

If a gm goes on leave then yes (Sandy Alderson going on LOA w the Mets), it is no different than in intern gm making moves while a new one is hired (Gorts exact situation in Boston). As I said, if Knoblauch is entrusted to make in game adjustments such as moving KK up to the 2nd line or time distributions for players (which he admitted he lost the kid line in the second Washington game), then is he really not capable of deciding is blackwell, goat, etc dont dress? The man can decide to bench a player in game but he cant decide who to actually dress for said game?

Quinn is still the head coach and he is still capable of setting the lineup before the game, so that is his responsibility. Quinn is not capable of being on the bench and making in-game decisions, so those are Knoblauch's responsibilities. I think you are reading a bit too much into this being Quinn's decision. I don't read that as Quinn has to be back on the bench. I read that to mean it is Quinn's final call, but he has to make decisions with input from the rest of the staff as he is removed from the team.

They just need to have this conversation:
K: Hey Quinnsy, Kravvy is looking like a real beaut in praccy. Showing big rips and silky mitts. I think he's ready for a cup in the show, ferda.
Q: Ferda.

(In my mind, this is how all hockey players/coaches talk now.) And then Kravtsov dresses.

 

[bleedblue94]

Quinn is still the head coach and he is still capable of setting the lineup before the game, so that is his responsibility. Quinn is not capable of being on the bench and making in-game decisions, so those are Knoblauch's responsibilities. I think you are reading a bit too much into this being Quinn's decision. I don't read that as Quinn has to be back on the bench. I read that to mean it is Quinn's final call, but he has to make decisions with input from the rest of the staff as he is removed from the team.

They just need to have this conversation:
K: Hey Quinnsy, Kravvy is looking like a real beaut in praccy. Showing big rips and silky mitts. I think he's ready for a cup in the show, ferda.
Q: Ferda.

(In my mind, this is how all hockey players/coaches talk now.) And then Kravtsov dresses.

I was originally reacting to the tweet the way it was written, and then later reacting to kovazub94 response to me and addressing what he said as opposed to what the tweet said. Now it is starting to take on a life of it's own so I'm respectfully not going to get into further convo about how I responded to the hypotheticals that he proposed vs what the tweet implied. Just not worth an internet argument on hypotheticals...

 

[leetch99]

Way too much.

Was thinking more along the lines of 3 years 3m per

I think he is getting 3 already where he is .

 

[LannyMcdonald]

If a gm goes on leave then yes (Sandy Alderson going on LOA w the Mets), it is no different than in intern gm making moves while a new one is hired (Gorts exact situation in Boston). As I said, if Knoblauch is entrusted to make in game adjustments such as moving KK up to the 2nd line or time distributions for players (which he admitted he lost the kid line in the second Washington game), then is he really not capable of deciding is blackwell, goat, etc dont dress? The man can decide to bench a player in game but he cant decide who to actually dress for said game?

Ummm... this sounds logical, but is kind of divorced from reality.

 

[Stasis]

Quinn is still the head coach and he is still capable of setting the lineup before the game, so that is his responsibility. Quinn is not capable of being on the bench and making in-game decisions, so those are Knoblauch's responsibilities. I think you are reading a bit too much into this being Quinn's decision. I don't read that as Quinn has to be back on the bench. I read that to mean it is Quinn's final call, but he has to make decisions with input from the rest of the staff as he is removed from the team.

They just need to have this conversation:
K: Hey Quinnsy, Kravvy is looking like a real beaut in praccy. Showing big rips and silky mitts. I think he's ready for a cup in the show, ferda.
Q: Ferda.

(In my mind, this is how all hockey players/coaches talk now.) And then Kravtsov dresses.

Wearing my Shamrocks "Forecheck, Backcheck, Paycheck" T-shirt as I read this. Earlier today it was "Appies and Nappies" lol.

 

[AlaBlueShirt]

Let Laf sit for couple games. Back to back top-2 picks and both are struggling hard in their rookie years. Wasn’t expecting a lot but man this is dissapointing.

 

[Amazing Kreiderman]

Let Laf sit for couple games. Back to back top-2 picks and both are struggling hard in their rookie years. Wasn’t expecting a lot but man this is dissapointing.

The only one that should sit a game (or 10) is Brendan Lemieux

 

[pld459666]

This isn't a decision to waive a guy, if Knoblauch is responsible for putting kakko on the line with strome and paranin during the last game then you're telling me he cant make a decision to scratch a AAAA level player to dress Kravtsov if he feels VK is ready for game action? Or are we now suggesting that Quinn is actually the person Drury is talking to in game on the mic and he is relaying instructions from DQ to Knoblauch realtime during games and Knoblauch is the avatar coach....

Knoblauch didn't make the decision to put Kakko on that line.

That was also Quinn.

Until hes fired, all lineup decisions are the HC's to make.

Not the temp.

 

[Crease]

I would find it weird if Quinn is making pregame lineup decisions without being able to see the guys at practice and talk to them, and without input from the interim staff. I suspect the interim staff is regularly communicating with Quinn and Quinn is making “final” decisions based on their input.

 

[TheBPA]

Mika is making some people look real silly right now.

 

[kovazub94]

Mika is making some people look real silly right now.

Including everyone who said 4RHS on a PP1 unit won’t work. I myself was guilty for finally asking to remove Zibanejad, haha. Now Zibanejad made it work again.

 

[RGY]

Including everyone who said 4RHS on a PP1 unit won’t work. I myself was guilty for finally asking to remove Zibanejad, haha. Now Zibanejad made it work again.

Conceptually still disagree with it. And I laid it out extensively as to why.

Beating up on the Flyers who have been a gong show defensively and in net does not prove otherwise.

Buch has been having a very good year. He has a decent slap shot. He should be on the opposite wall in Strome’s spot. It is nothing against Strome.

 

[TheBPA]

Including everyone who said 4RHS on a PP1 unit won’t work. I myself was guilty for finally asking to remove Zibanejad, haha. Now Zibanejad made it work again.

Taking a guy off a powerplay because he's not feeling it is one thing. It's the comments that he doesn't care about hockey, isn't a leader, etc. etc. etc. because he had Covid, lost his confidence and the puck wasn't going in for about a 25 game stretch that I find laughable.

 

[kovazub94]

Taking a guy off a powerplay because he's not feeling it is one thing. It's the comments that he doesn't care about hockey, isn't a leader, etc. etc. etc. because he had Covid, lost his confidence and the puck wasn't going in for about a 25 game stretch that I find laughable.

It’s not covid it’s Quinn,

 

[Amazing Kreiderman]

Knoblauch didn't make the decision to put Kakko on that line.

That was also Quinn.

Until hes fired, all lineup decisions are the HC's to make.

Not the temp.

You know what is temp's influence? That the lines are the same throughout the game and certain players don't get benched or demoted the moment a puck bounces off their stick

 

[bleedblue94]

Knoblauch didn't make the decision to put Kakko on that line.

That was also Quinn.

Until hes fired, all lineup decisions are the HC's to make.

Not the temp.

He changed that line during the game, blackwell started there. That was not Quinn making the change from home

 

[bleedblue94]

You know what is temp's influence? That the lines are the same throughout the game and certain players don't get benched or demoted the moment a puck bounces off their stick

Even just looking at the bench or the players, it seems like there's a different energy there. I know they've been successful during this time so that obviously brings positive energy, but they just look more comfortable and less on edge if that makes any sense. Like suddenly they're not afraid that they might make a mistake and how the coach will react.

It's going to be very interesting to see how they play after Quinn does come back.

 

[NYR Viper]

I hate to say this as the team needs a player or two who can step in for their teammates and play a physical, heavy style, but Lemieux has been a disappointment for me. If there are interested teams at the deadline looking to add a player who can bring that physical element in the playoffs, I'd consider moving him.

 

[LokiDog]

Fox is 7th in the NHL in points per game for defenders.

Hedman, Makar, Barrie, Carlson, Petry, Theodore are ahead of him.

Their teams are 1, 3, 2, 4, 10, 7 respectively in goals for per game. The Rangers are 11th.

Fox is playing tougher defensive minutes than than virtually all of them and you could definitely argue is a better defender than any of them besides Hedman.