Speculation: Roster Building Thread LXXXVI: Spring into action (GMJG outta hibernation?)

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How about Kravtsov practices first and we'll go from there.

In the meantime, Kakko over Blackwell.
well what you want isn't happening again tonight so we can live in the fairy tale world where he's going to end up on the second line again or we can live with reality which is the blackwell is playing in that spot over him even tonight. also, not for nothing but less than 3 minutes into the game Joe even made the comment while talking about the ice time for the three kids that all the players and coaches are focused on the playoffs. I really don't know what else you want. your opinion may not line up with what's going on, but that doesn't change the fact that that's what's going on
 
Back to making shit up again? Buch was breaking out last year when he didn't get a chance to finish the season and if you adjust / smooth out for last year's no luck December and extra luck this March - he's at the same level well into the second season.

I guess he started overachieving to get a big next contract as soon as he signed his current.

Well it was a question and a pretty valid one. so kind of hard to make something up asking it. You could have just given an answer to it
 
well what you want isn't happening again tonight so we can live in the fairy tale world where he's going to end up on the second line again or we can live with reality which is the blackwell is playing in that spot over him even tonight. also, not for nothing but less than 3 minutes into the game Joe even made the comment while talking about the ice time for the three kids that all the players and coaches are focused on the playoffs. I really don't know what else you want. your opinion may not line up with what's going on, but that doesn't change the fact that that's what's going on
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:laugh: we can thank blackwell for sucking horribly for the door to open. I'm thrilled he seized the opportunity tonight. Let's hope quinn leaves him there for the next game when he's back!

Believe me, I want the kids to succeed!
we both do.

I just haven't watched Kravtsov play in the NHL. I thought Kakko would fill in nicely on that line. I do not care who plays where, as long as they and the team are succeeding
 
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If you think so - you're an outlier. There could've been a poll on this a year ago. Check it out, do another poll, etc.. The way Chytil's been discussed from roster building now and in the future it's got to be over 90% conclusion that he's a bona fide C.

He could develop into a bonafide C. He isn’t one now.

I’m sure 90% of the people here are desperate to develop him into a top 6 C. That doesn’t mean that it will necessarily become his most effective position. I think everyone just pencils him in at center because he’s playing the position and this teams prospect depth at center is non-existent.

Maybe he will be a career long C, but I’m not ready to bet my next paycheck on it. I get the age and development curve and I’m sure he’ll improve - I just don’t watch him and think “natural center.” In all fairness, it took me a little while to buy Kevin Hayes as a center though, so what do I know.
 
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:laugh: we can thank blackwell for sucking horribly tonight to open the door for him. I'm thrilled he seized the opportunity tonight. Let's hope quinn leaves him there for the next game when he's back!

Believe me, I want the kids to succeed!

I think Kakko has a chance to stick on the 2nd line if he keeps driving hard to the net and being responsible defensively. Hopefully this is his breakout game and he doesn’t go another giant block of games without a goal.
 
Kakko’s game needs to be driving to the net, playoff off Panarin and Strome, and shooting pucks and playing in or around the blue paint. Once he muscles up more and gains more strength he will also get quicker. I really do like him. Always worry that this pinhead they’re 4-1 (right?) without will screw it up after a period he doesn’t like.
 
I remember @BBKers mentioning a potential small deal to make room when krav is here and shesty is back. Any news on that front?

That time is soon here. Will be interesting to see what happens until April 12. RESULTS (OURS + OTHER TEAMS) WILL - OF COURSE - LIKELY HELP DICTATE WHAT HAPPENS ON THE TRADE MARKET => LOOKING AHEAD:
NYR REMAINING SCHEDULE UNTIL TDL
[TBODY] [/TBODY]
25-Mar-21@ Philadelphia
27-Mar-21@ Philadelphia
28-Mar-21@ Washington
30-Mar-21 Washington @ MSG
1-Apr-21@ Buffalo
3-Apr-21@ Buffalo
6-Apr-21 Pittsburgh @ MSG
8-Apr-21 Pittsburgh @ MSG
9-Apr-21@ NYI
11-Apr-21@ NYI
12-Apr-21 TRADE DEADLINE
REST OF REGULAR SEASON15 GAMES REMAINING
[TBODY] [/TBODY]

11 GAMES REMAING UNTIL THE TDL
WE NEED TO WIN 8 OF THESE TO MENTION PO:s. OR AT THE VERY LEAST 7+.
NO EASY TASK...
 
That time is soon here. Will be interesting to see what happens until April 12. RESULTS (OURS + OTHER TEAMS) WILL - OF COURSE - LIKELY HELP DICTATE WHAT HAPPENS ON THE TRADE MARKET => LOOKING AHEAD:
NYR REMAINING SCHEDULE UNTIL TDL
[TBODY] [/TBODY]
25-Mar-21@ Philadelphia
27-Mar-21@ Philadelphia
28-Mar-21@ Washington
30-Mar-21 Washington @ MSG
1-Apr-21@ Buffalo
3-Apr-21@ Buffalo
6-Apr-21 Pittsburgh @ MSG
8-Apr-21 Pittsburgh @ MSG
9-Apr-21@ NYI
11-Apr-21@ NYI
12-Apr-21 TRADE DEADLINE
REST OF REGULAR SEASON15 GAMES REMAINING
[TBODY] [/TBODY]
11 GAMES REMAING UNTIL THE TDL
WE NEED TO WIN 8 OF THESE TO MENTION PO:s. OR AT THE VERY LEAST 7+.
NO EASY TASK...

Gotta sweep Flyers and Sabres and take at least one from Caps, Pens and Isles. As you said - not easy
 
I think people WANT him to be a center. I don’t know if that’s what is matching on ice results. He isn’t a great passer. He isn’t elevating his line mates. He isn’t great defensively. Why is he 100% a center?

He sees the game like one. His angles, the way he uses the space given. The lanes he takes and utilizes to move or retrieve the puck.

Maybe his skill set isn't up to par, and that is a fair point. But you can't teach the instincts he has. You can teach him to be better at face-offs and passing. Defence is a bit of a hodgepodge of young kid learning, not so great system up to this year, and new coach teaching a new system to learn this year with no camp or preseason to work out the nuances of Martains system.

Imo, the intrigue is there to see if we can turn a rock into a gem. The instinct for the position and size/speed/strength combo is too irresistible to ignore.
 
Feeling pretty good about the team this morning after the last four games (even the loss to the Caps), so I thought that I post some random, optimistic and hopeful thoughts about particular players.

For context, let me say, as I often do, that at age 73 I may be the oldest poster here. My Ranger memories go back to 1958, I saw my first live game at the old MSG in 1961, was at the last game played at the old MSG and the first game at the current Garden. I was a season ticket holder in the old blue seats from 1969-1976. Aside from all the amazing personal events that have happened in my life (marriage, birth of my children and grandchildren, a slew of professional accomplishments), I can say without hesitation that winning the Cup in 94 was the non-personal highlight of my life, more so than the Mets winning the World Series in 69 and 86 or the first Giants Super Bowl championship.

Chris Kreider: I don’t think that we appreciate this guy enough, he is a unique and special player. There have been many great power forwards in the NHL, but few that also possess his speed and goal mouth presence. Add to that his work ethic, his impact on younger players, his leadership, and his off-ice intelligence, you have literally a “one-of-a-kind player.” Sure, we’d all like to see him score 40 goals, but like many highly skilled players he is unbelievably streaky. Still, he is slowly making his way into my top 10 all-time favorite Rangers. We should appreciate just how unique and special he is.

Ryan Strome: look, we all know his limitations, we all know he was likely drafted to highly, we all know that he is not our ideal number two center, but you know what? This guy is a darn good hockey player. He knows his skills and plays within his abilities and has that rather rare quality of “playing up” in a lineup and maximizing the skills of higher end players. Yes, he benefits from playing with them but I’m happy he is here. He is a true professional in every aspect of the word.

Adam Fox: all the accolades are well-deserved. His play is truly outstanding although there are times, I wish he could play stronger in front of the net, realizing of course that due to his size, he is never going to be able to move more physical players away. He certainly makes up for it elsewhere. But I’m not ready to elevate him to Brian Leetch levels yet. Fox is an average skater who makes up for a lack of foot speed by quickness. His skating has not kept him from playing the game at a truly elite level that will likely get even better. But Leetch was a superlative skater and he often used that speed in the offensive game. True, the game was different in that era and “offensive defenseman” was more of a term than today. Fox might very well attain true franchise great status in the coming years, I certainly hope he does, but I’m not quite ready yet to declare him Leetch’s equal.

The kids, particularly Kaapo Kappo and Alexis Lafreniere. Frankly, I’m not worried about either in the least. KK’s game has evolved and changed this year. I’m one who agrees that the scoring will come. He might very well be a different player than we envisioned when we drafted him, a true scorer, but more of a power forward who will play strong along the boards and carry the puck to the net. I see him, in his prime, as a top six 30G-30A guy. That type of role will also limit his biggest lack, skating speed. But I must say, he has put in the effort to make himself a better skater. Last year, his lack of foot speed was noticeable, this year, not much at all. I’m certainly optimistic about his future. He earned his promotion last night and hope he can stay on that line.

I’m also not worried about AL. The talent, the skill, the drive, the work ethic is there. I think he is still trying to figure out how his skillset plays in the NHL. In the meanwhile, he is gathering invaluable experience. I think two things will happen with him: he will get stronger (honestly, he needs too), partly the result of growing a bit older and naturally becoming stronger and partly the result of a more intense off-season workout program. But I think something else will happen, something that I believe in strongly and see across all sports with truly talented young players who struggle. He will spend the off-season processing all that happened, thinking about it constantly, both consciously and unconsciously, visualizing all that occurred this year. He will come to training camp next September with a much better understanding of himself and the league, of how to make his skills play and work. I still see him as a top line winger.

Of course, the Rangers being the Rangers, they will likely destroy my optimism and good feelings about the team with a string of poor games. But that is how young teams are; progress is never linear.
 
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Feeling pretty good about the team this morning after the last four games (even the loss to the Caps), so I thought that I post some random, optimistic and hopeful thoughts about particular players.

For context, let me say, as I often do, that at age 73 I may be the oldest poster here. My Ranger memories go back to 1958, I saw my first live game at the old MSG in 1961, was at the last game played at the old MSG and the first game at the current Garden. I was a season ticket holder in the old blue seats from 1969-1976. Aside from all the amazing personal events that have happened in my life (marriage, birth of my children and grandchildren, a slew of professional accomplishments), I can say without hesitation that winning the Cup in 94 was the non-personal highlight of my life, more so than the Mets winning the World Series in 69 and 86 or the first Giants Super Bowl championship.

Chris Kreider: I don’t think that we appreciate this guy enough, he is a unique and special player. There have been many great power forwards in the NHL, but few that also possess his speed and goal mouth presence. Add to that his work ethic, his impact on younger players, his leadership, and his off-ice intelligence, you have literally a “one-of-a-kind player.” Sure, we’d all like to see him score 40 goals, but like many highly skilled players he is unbelievably streaky. Still, he is slowly making his way into my top 10 all-time favorite Rangers. We should appreciate just how unique and special he is.

Ryan Strome: look, we all know his limitations, we all know he was likely drafted to highly, we all know that he is not our ideal number two center, but you know what? This guy is a darn good hockey player. He knows his skills and plays within his abilities and has that rather rare quality of “playing up” in a lineup and maximizing the skills of higher end players. Yes, he benefits from playing with them but I’m happy he is here. He is a true professional in every aspect of the word.

Adam Fox: all the accolades are well-deserved. His play is truly outstanding although there are times, I wish he could play stronger in front of the net, realizing of course that due to his size, he is never going to be able to move more physical players away. He certainly makes up for it elsewhere. But I’m not ready to elevate him to Brian Leetch levels yet. Fox is an average skater who makes up for a lack of foot speed by quickness. His skating has not kept him from playing the game at a truly elite level that will likely get even better. But Leetch was a superlative skater and he often used that speed in the offensive game. True, the game was different in that era and “offensive defenseman” was more of a term than today. Fox might very well attain true franchise great status in the coming years, I certainly hope he does, but I’m not quite ready yet to declare him Leetch’s equal.

The kids, particularly Kaapo Kappo and Alexis Lafreniere. Frankly, I’m not worried about either in the least. KK’s game has evolved and changed this year. I’m one who agrees that the scoring will come. He might very well be a different player than we envisioned when we drafted him, a true scorer, but more of a power forward who will play strong along the boards and carry the puck to the net. I see him, in his prime, as a top six 30G-30A guy. That type of role will also limit his biggest lack, skating speed. But I must say, he has put in the effort to make himself a better skater. Last year, his lack of foot speed was noticeable, this year, not much at all. I’m certainly optimistic about his future. He earned his promotion last night and hope he can stay on that line.

I’m also not worried about AL. The talent, the skill, the drive, the work ethic is there. I think he is still trying to figure out how his skillset plays in the NHL. In the meanwhile, he is gathering invaluable experience. I think two things will happen with him: he will get stronger (honestly, he needs too), partly the result of growing a bit older and naturally becoming stronger and partly the result of a more intense off-season workout program. But I think something else will happen, something that I believe in strongly and see across all sports with truly talented young players who struggle. He will spend the off-season processing all that happened, thinking about it constantly, both consciously and unconsciously, visualizing all that occurred this year. He will come to training camp next September with a much better understanding of himself and the league, of how to make his skills play and work. I still see him as a top line winger.

Of course, the Rangers being the Rangers, they will likely destroy my optimism and good feelings about the team with a string of poor games. But that is how young teams are; progress in never linear.
Solid post
 
I mean, I'd rather the team visibly improve down the stretch and just miss the playoffs than to stagnate late and get swept like the did in 2006.

The experience is valuable but you want to see the club actively improving as we approach the first competitive window.
 
Well it was a question and a pretty valid one. so kind of hard to make something up asking it. You could have just given an answer to it
But seems a bit disingenuous when you solely point to this year and completely ignore the 68 games from last year.
 
Pretty interesting stat

kakko is tied for the most goals of any player drafted in the 2019 draft with... jack hughes also 14 goals.

both have played exactly 90 games. Hughes has only 8 more points to his credit than our boy kakko. While kakko this year has the much better underlying numbers

seems like these two are developing at a very similar pace.

one thing though is hughes consistently gets big mins and big pp time while kakko does not
 
::Sheepishly raises hand::

I know it’s not your overall point, but if this team had more depth at center then I think you’d see NYR at least experiment with Chytil on the wing.
Point of parliamentary procedure your honor: If Chytil is not a center, this team is in a good bit of trouble. I think that at this point, you sink or swim with him as such.
 
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But seems a bit disingenuous when you solely point to this year and completely ignore the 68 games from last year.

well it’s being disingenuous to say Buchnevich has been a consistent hockey player to this point. That’s just flat out in no way true. This is in fact his best year it is in fact a contract year and it is in fact his most consistent stretch of the hockey he’s capable of playing. That shouldn’t be an argumentative statement.
 
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I mean, I'd rather the team visibly improve down the stretch and just miss the playoffs than to stagnate late and get swept like the did in 2006.
This is not just down the stretch. Look at their record since February began. To some of Edge's point and the slow start, had this team received even mediocre goaltending in the beginning of the season, they would be squarely in the playoff fight right now. With all of the injuries, COVID lists, personnel sagas (looking at DeAngelo), having their last nine games be manned by mostly the 3rd string goalie and a shaky second string goalie, add on to that the ridiculous slow start of the vets, that they are even where they are should be a sign for a tad of optimism.
 
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