Speculation: Roster Building Thread LXXXV: Sell some now, buy some later
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DutchShamrock
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Vesey had value. I think fans agonize over 4th liners more than GMs.
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The S5
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Skjei plays in almost all situations with the Canes. He isn't playing with Slavin. Pairs with Pesce at times. Carolina's roster is still very young, but definitely more mature. My point was that they play hard every night. That is something that is in any teams control and the Rangers don't always look like they give the effort.
I'm one who is very optimistic with the Rangers future. I just don't know if Quinn is the guy to get them to the next level.
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Shesterkybomb
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With regards to Skjei, i never got the hate, he was asked to fill a role he wasn't fit for. His contract got him traded, if he was making less he'd still be here imo.
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Playing with a consistent effort is also a part of maturation. The amount or a ratio if you will of when the Rangers look like playing with effort vs not makes it a none-coaching issue to me. Further, the team’s goaltending outside of Shesterkin, early season struggles from most of the vets then the injury bug has unsurprisingly taken its toll on the mental preparedness of younger players.
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I don’t there was hate per se. Your post sums it up perfectly. He didn’t meet front office expectations and with prospects coming up - was traded with his contract for a good value. End of story.
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Some also hold unwarranted resentment because of Andersson fiasco. But at this point it seem anything higher than a competent 4C would be a surprising development no pun intended, and the Rangers seem to already find a better option for even that spot. It is what it is.
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I don't think maturity has much to do with consistent effort. If a young player doesn't come to play every night, you replace him with someone who is going to play hard. I think the ability to get your team to play your system with maximum effort is the most valuable asset of a coach. Systems are what they are. Nobody is fooling anyone. By the same token, you can have great players who don't play hard and your team will not succeed.
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He has regressed every season and has produced no offense whatsoever. There are simply better players who can also penalty kill while offering other things to benefit the team. Rooney, for example, is much better and they snagged him off the scrap heap in UFA. It's clear Quinn has favored Howden from the start, for some odd reason, which only compounds things.
Ship out Georgiev and roll with Kinkaid as the backup. Save additional cap there.
They aren’t getting a 2nd for Georgiev. They probably couldnt get that when his value was higher. He certainly isn’t fetching that now.
well keep him then. He had 2 horrific games let’s not overreact. He can bounce back and they need to keep expansion in mind
Even if we moved Georgiev, we’d still expose Kinkaid and it’d be fine. Seattle is taking a forward from us, not a 32 year old backup G.
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Jones
So this is pretty much our pipeline right now. I bolded the guys that seem to be in long term plans and left pending FAs. Buch and Strome we have no idea what will happen, same as Zib. VK could be trade bait. I love Goat but we need to let VK play and I don't want either one wasted on the 4th line. One of Trouba/Nils/Schneider will eventually be moved. We have an embarrassment of riches at D and we have a lot of unproven Wing talent. Is it worth taking a draft pick for Strome? What are we doing with a 2nd rounder to move the needle for the future? Better off getting a prospect IMO unless we squeeze a 1st. Then we have to decide are we moving our D for a 1c or 2c. We can't keep them all. If we grab a 1C then Zibanejad is likely gone. I think Chytil can easily be our 2C next year. Maybe best case scenario is move up for the best Center within reach next draft whether that;s trading our 1st and a prospect or whatever Strome nets us. Just thinking out loud with what to do. It's time to start making moves this offseason and figure out who we are. But we certainly don't need extra picks to add to the log jams.
Jones + VK can net us what Center prospect? I really like VK but Buch has earned top line for us and we need Laf and Kakko getting as much ES/PP time as possible. Heck maybe add in Robertson if we can get guys like Hajek and Bitetto to look solid or sign a vet each year like Smith.
Panarin-Strome-Kakko
Laf-Chytil-Goat
Blackwell-Howden-Kravtsov
Lemmy-Barron-Pauj
Cullye-Henriksson-Berard
Fox-Lindgren
Trouba-Miller
Lundkvist-Hajek
Schneider-Robertson
ADA-Tarmo
Jones
So this is pretty much our pipeline right now. I bolded the guys that seem to be in long term plans and left pending FAs. Buch and Strome we have no idea what will happen, same as Zib. VK could be trade bait. I love Goat but we need to let VK play and I don't want either one wasted on the 4th line. One of Trouba/Nils/Schneider will eventually be moved. We have an embarrassment of riches at D and we have a lot of unproven Wing talent. Is it worth taking a draft pick for Strome? What are we doing with a 2nd rounder to move the needle for the future? Better off getting a prospect IMO unless we squeeze a 1st. Then we have to decide are we moving our D for a 1c or 2c. We can't keep them all. If we grab a 1C then Zibanejad is likely gone. I think Chytil can easily be our 2C next year. Maybe best case scenario is move up for the best Center within reach next draft whether that;s trading our 1st and a prospect or whatever Strome nets us. Just thinking out loud with what to do. It's time to start making moves this offseason and figure out who we are. But we certainly don't need extra picks to add to the log jams.
Jones + VK can net us what Center prospect? I really like VK but Buch has earned top line for us and we need Laf and Kakko getting as much ES/PP time as possible. Heck maybe add in Robertson if we can get guys like Hajek and Bitetto to look solid or sign a vet each year like Smith.
Because Staal is in Detroit, Vesey is in Toronto and Tanner Glass retired.
So on Thursday I threw in the towel in the middle of the second period. I was unable to watch the game live but as soon as I got home, I watched the entire game.
Much better, thank you!
Much better, thank you!
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