Speculation: Roster Building Thread LXXXIX: Going 11-3 to close out this crazy year should do it!

[duhmetreE]

Truly... when was the last team to ice this much talent on the roster? I don't think people realize how much talent we have. We are approaching the point of having too many talented players. ( if we haven't already. )

add Lundkvist next year. That leaves only 3LHD open with a plethora of options to fill it.

 

[Synergy27]

I think most of us would sign up for a replay of the Zibanejad trade right now rather than doing what would be the equivalent of the Rick Nash route with Eichel.

Of course we’d all sign up for the second coming of the Zibanejad trade. That was a ridiculous home run of a trade. It’s highly unlikely we can coax another team into making a mistake like that, and even harder because the bar is set higher (Zib is much better than Brass).

I really don’t know what to do here. I don’t think Eichel is the right move. It doesn’t feel like bringing Messier in to get an underachieving team over the top, it feels like selling out a plethora of young talent before they even have a chance to fail.

Keeping Zibanejad is playing with fire though. He’s so good when he’s on but the timeline just might not be right.

I think we need to hope that a flat cap limits opportunities elsewhere and makes these guys affordable somehow.

 

[CLW]

One thing that gives me pause about any major trade is that one of the strengths of this team is you have a group of young players (who are really good) growing up together. This is how great teams are built. I could see one trade if the right pieces are available but the Rangers may be content to add on the edges and let this team grow together. This was always Glenn Sather’s mantra and even though he isn’t on the letterhead anymore, he still is an influence here.

Pierre is right. Just don’t f*** it up.

I believe the Rangers are looking for a young center for Laf & Kakko. Chytil ain't it (not really 1c potential), neither are Zib and Strome (age gap). That means a number of trades to sort it out.

 

[LiveLongandProspal]

We extended Brodzinski


New York Rangers To Extend Jonny Brodzinski

 

[DialUp]

The solution to the center problem is for the Rangers to come out next year absolute lights out, be far and away the best team in the league by the TDL, have no need to mess it up, win the cup, then let them both walk into the sunset with shiny rings.

 

[Irishguy42]

I believe the Rangers are looking for a young center for Laf & Kakko. Chytil ain't it (not really 1c potential), neither are Zib and Strome (age gap). That means a number of trades to sort it out.

Chytil has been 'it' for Laf and Kakko this season and he's had a great season overall. He's second best on the team in 5v5 points/60 if boxcar stats are your main concern.

If he ends up not being a 'true 1C' but can be 'it' for Laf and Kakko on a first line, then you do that 100/100 times

 

[rangers1314]

We extended Brodzinski


New York Rangers To Extend Jonny Brodzinski

it’s a 2 way deal, so that doesn’t play into the expansion draft right?

Guess they like him with the kids in Hartford.

 

[Irishguy42]

it’s a 2 way deal, so that doesn’t play into the expansion draft right?

Guess they like him with the kids in Hartford.

He wouldn't be eligible for expansion anyway

 

[Backstreets Back]

This org is poised to be unbelievably good for a long time as long as our lottery picks don't turn into Callahan level players. Something the coach and org appear to be shockingly okay with as each day passes.

 

[Edge]

I believe the Rangers are looking for a young center for Laf & Kakko. Chytil ain't it (not really 1c potential), neither are Zib and Strome (age gap). That means a number of trades to sort it out.

I partially agree with you.

I do think they're looking for some young centers, but I don't think it's necessarily tied to Laf and Kakko.

I think we're approaching a point where at least one of Zibanejad and Strome will not be on the roster. That doesn't necessarily mean 3 months from now, but it's likely coming.

I suspect the Rangers would like to have another young option, with growth potential, to round out their roster a bit. I think some of this is for roster balance, and I suspect some might serve as a way to safeguard if they commit to an older center, or re-sign one of Zibanejad or Strome.

For example, I think one way or the other they're going to have an idea this summer as to whether they're going to commit to Zibanejad long-term. Let's assume they do, and for argument's sake that contract takes him from the age of 29-35. I could see them also attempting to move Buch and targeting a young center as part of the return. That young center either hops in on the fourth line beyond Zibanejad, Strome and Chytil, or he gets a ton of time down in Hartford.

The Rangers potentially self-rent Strome, and then the following year either slide their young center up in the lineup (as Strome moves on and Chytil moves up) or promote him from Hartford.

With time, when Zibanejad eventually starts to decline, you'd have the potential ability to shuffle things around a bit.

So that's one potential approach/scenario, out of several.

But, the point being, I think a youngish center is probably on their radar and wish list somewhat independently of Laf and Kakko, though obviously not completely removed either.

 

[CLW]

Chytil has been 'it' for Laf and Kakko this season and he's had a great season overall. He's second best on the team in 5v5 points/60 if boxcar stats are your main concern.

If he ends up not being a 'true 1C' but can be 'it' for Laf and Kakko on a first line, then you do that 100/100 times

No argument there. The question is if there is enough "it" in Chytil as a C. He is very young tbf.

 

[Edge]

We extended Brodzinski


New York Rangers To Extend Jonny Brodzinski

That's an AHL signing to off-set some potential losses next season. For example, Cuylle is going back to the OHL and Barron has a real shot of sticking in the NHL. So right there, that's two forward slots.

 

[Fitzy]

It's a good post Edge, the only question that leaves unanswered is if NYR choose not to extend Zibby, what kind of moves they make, because self-renting ZIbanejad would lose much more assets than Self renting Strome.

 

[Oscar Lindberg]

The Rangers trading Zibanejad and having Strome be the 1C going forward might be the darkest timeline

Hope Gorton is smarter than that

 

[Edge]

It's a good post Edge, the only question that leaves unanswered is if NYR choose not to extend Zibby, what kind of moves they make, because self-renting ZIbanejad would lose much more assets than Self renting Strome.

I agree.

I have a hard time seeing them rent Zibanejad. I think he's going to require a clear decision. And frankly, some of that might depend on the options that are out there, and the cost of those options.

If they chose not to extend Zibanejad, than I suspect there's another option out there that they feel confident enough, based on discussions, that they can wrap up. Let's call him Player X.

In that case, Zibanejad is traded for assets that are either included in the deal for Player X, or potentially help off-set the loss of some assets moved for Player X.

If it's the latter, maybe it includes a center. At that point we could still be looking at a Strome rental scenario, or a re-signing if Player X ended up costing us someone like Chytil.

 

[Edge]

The Rangers trading Zibanejad and having Strome be the 1C going forward might be the darkest timeline

Hope Gorton is smarter than that

That would not be good.

I also don't think it'll come to that.

I think a little over a year from now people will either be arguing about whether re-signing Zibanejad was the right choice, or arguing about the guy we brought in to replace him.

I feel fairly confident we won't be arguing about Strome as a first line center.

 

[Matt Rentfree]

Some posters on the CAR board don't seem to have much confidence that Drury is going to sign with them. Possibly another Adam Fox type deal for us?

 

[Oscar Lindberg]

That would not be good.

I also don't think it'll come to that.

I think a little over a year from now people will either be arguing about whether re-signing Zibanejad was the right choice, or arguing about the guy we brought in to replace him.

I feel fairly confident we won't be arguing about Strome as a first line center.

That’s comforting at the very least haha

 

[Kodiak]

He wouldn't be eligible for expansion anyway

He is eligible to be selected (he won’t be, for obvious reasons) but he does not contribute toward the minimum exposure requirements due to games played. This does not change our position at all. If the Rangers want to protect Blackwell, they need to extend Gauthier, Howden, or PDG and expose them.

 

[Oscar Lindberg]

Some posters on the CAR board don't seem to have much confidence that Drury is going to sign with them. Possibly another Adam Fox type deal for us?

That’d be nice

You know what would have been just as nice? The Rangers just drafting Drury themselves and not taking Olof Lindblom lol

 

[Matt Rentfree]

That’d be nice

You know what would have been just as nice? The Rangers just drafting Drury themselves and not taking Olof Lindblom lol

That goes without saying.

 

[Kodiak]

That would not be good.

I also don't think it'll come to that.

I think a little over a year from now people will either be arguing about whether re-signing Zibanejad was the right choice, or arguing about the guy we brought in to replace him.

I feel fairly confident we won't be arguing about Strome as a first line center.

I think it depends on the direction the front office wants to go. If the vision of the team is dominant wingers and complimentary centers, then Strome might be an option over Zibanejad if his contract demands aren’t in line with that.

 

[Irishguy42]

He is eligible to be selected (he won’t be, for obvious reasons) but he does not contribute toward the minimum exposure requirements due to games played. This does not change our position at all. If the Rangers want to protect Blackwell, they need to extend Gauthier, Howden, or PDG and expose them.

That's what I meant, my b

 

[Irishguy42]

That’d be nice

You know what would have been just as nice? The Rangers just drafting Drury themselves and not taking Olof Lindblom lol

No. Akil Thomas would have been nice instead of Lindblom

 

[Kodiak]

That's what I meant, my b

No worries. The whole thing is too complicated by half.