Speculation: Roster Building Thread LXXXIX: Going 11-3 to close out this crazy year should do it!

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IDK about throwing Zac Jones in right now. He's learning, getting time practicing with the team, I think that's valuable enough in it's own right. Don't want to hurt his confidence by putting him in over his head. Give him the summer in the gym to bulk up.
 
Quinn HIMSELF said 'there was a goalie rotation, regardless of outcomes..' IT LITERALLY CAME OUT OF HIS MOUTH... this is not arguable or subjective..
Who friggin' cares what comes out of a coaches mouth to the media? It is nothing but coach speak. Of course he is going to so that he has two #1 goalies. Sounds to me like we are going at great length to invent something that never actually existed.
 
IDK about throwing Zac Jones in right now. He's learning, getting time practicing with the team, I think that's valuable enough in it's own right. Don't want to hurt his confidence by putting him in over his head. Give him the summer in the gym to bulk up.

I'm unsure what the number is exactly, perhaps its 9 (or whatever # they came up with in replacement for this truncated season) , but they likely wont want him to accrue a "year" of experience so he isnt arbitration elgibile for an extra year.
 
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The Rangers are most likely going to end the year on a serious streak (they're already 6-2-2 in their last 10) and will probably miss the playoffs. Is Gorton going to make the kind of move that empties the prospect and draft pick bin a bit, costs him 2 or 3 good young players they've already invested in, and forces him to move or not resign Strome, Buch and Zib (guys who have not only played great but also have chemistry with guys that will be here to start the season)? You bring in an Eichel and you're pretty much guaranteeing the "new core" is already dismantled by the end of next season. Or does he trust the stars he already has, who's developing (is there any doubt that Kakko, Laff, Chytil, Miller, and Kravtsov won't be better next season?) and supplement this roster with a few smaller deals and the next wave of prospects expected to make the team next year? I think you can sell a Brassard type deal if it meant losing Strome, Buch or even Zib. Sucks, but that's the business. But to basically blow it all up for one player who by some accounts is a pain in the ass and has a bad attitude? I don't know.

I think some posters here are too quick to give up what they already have for some player that checks all their boxes, in a perfect world you swap an older C for a younger, cheaper C sure. But it's not foolproof. Strome isn't perfect, but the guy has done nothing but produce since he got here. And he plays really, really well with Panarin. I get the desire to build an optimum lineup, but I don't think that's a reality. Sometimes what you have is better than what you could have.

Great post.

There is always a risk to get ahead of yourself with these things. Things can change so fast, one PO loss one year against a physical team and we will need more size, then the next year we could lose against a more skilled team and we will seek speed or whatever.

Three years from now we may be desperate to get something nobody foresees today.

I am definitely against getting Eichel and this is a big reason for it. We sign Kreider at LW and Trouba at RD, and like less than a year and a year and a half respectively they are in the midsts of some real bad logjams. And the logjam at RD persists even after us just tossing our top RD the previous year off the team.

Lack of speedy centers at center ice scares me, right now. But who knows, in 2-3 years maybe we are desperate for a 12m goalie, a LW, RD or whatever. In any event, having flexibility can be darn important.
 
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Who friggin' cares what comes out of a coaches mouth to the media? It is nothing but coach speak. Of course he is going to so that he has two #1 goalies. Sounds to me like we are going at great length to invent something that never actually existed.
Why are we still doing this lol? Come on, Shesterkin became this team’s starter when he was still in the AHL.
 
Why are we still doing this lol? Come on, Shesterkin became this team’s starter when he was still in the AHL.
Because Quinn was a moron who had an 8 game coaching carousel. Have you not read the boards, man? I mean he SAID that they are both #1s!
 
No, my man, what is f***ing depressing is that we’d make the playoffs in ANY other division.

Yeah, at the same time, a team like Pittsburgh have had waaaay to easy ride in our division and we if anyone are one of the culprits for that. With 2 wins and 5 losses, if we win two of those losses we are 1 pt behind Pittsburgh.

It’s a short season and we pissed it away early. We won’t make the same mistakes next year — but current management, I think they will find new ones to commit. Unfortunately.
 
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So i guess we’re just going to ignore that our vetted guys have said previously the team valued Georgiev like a starter towards the end of last year lol

And that would be backed up by how Quinn was initially using him to start the year

But yes he’s really a mastermind that said on multiple occasions we have two #1s but didn’t mean it lol
 
C'mon lads, where's the optimism?

All they have to do is be within 4 points before the back to back Bruins games.

Is anyone going to seriously tell me a roster with this much talent, now completely healthy, can't string together a run here?

In Igor we trust.

Win 8 of the next 11 games. 16 points.

Boston wins 8 of the next 13. 16 points.

Two games, regulation wins required. NYR have the ROW tiebreaker.

What's unfortunate upon re-looking at the schedule is that the two games in hand could come after our 2 game series, which could make for some stressful couch watching.
 
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Huh? He's literally been god awful and is regularly getting moved to the 4th line.
Regularly? It was ONE game.

And no last game doesn’t constitute as being moved to the 4th line in the 3rd period. All the lines were changing.

Kreider’s play has been no different than it has been his whole career. What is the surprise here?
 
C'mon lads, where's the optimism?

All they have to do is be within 4 points before the back to back Bruins games.

Is anyone going to seriously tell me a roster with this much talent, now completely healthy, can't string together a run here?

In Igor we trust.

Win 8 of the next 11 games. 16 points.

Boston wins 8 of the next 13. 16 points.

Two games, regulation wins required. NYR have the ROW tiebreaker.

What's unfortunate upon re-looking at the schedule is that the two games in hand could come after our 2 game series, which could make for some stressful couch watching.
Its too little too late imo. They have no room for error and I just dont see that happening. Meanwhile Boston just beat a good Islanders team when we really could have used a loss there. And if they win tonight against the Islanders that really takes some wind out of the sails.
 
Panarin's LOA - Quinn's fault
Mika's post-Covid - Quinn's fault
Chytil's injury during Mika's post-covid - Quinn's fault
Shesterkin injury and bad overall goaltending early in the season - Quinn's fault

I don’t think this is really fair, who is blaming Quinn for “everything”? Nobody.

But he is here to help, it shouldn’t be about him not being blamed for a bunch of disasters and only deserving it for a few of them. He should be a positive impact on the team.

Quinn as a head coach is like having Howden as a 2nd line center. Howden is blamed for way too much than he deserves too. He works hard, skates hard. He does cover well for his wingers in terms of getting back and getting in on the forecheck. He covers a lot of ice.

But I would have issues with Howden as our 2nd line C and I have issues with DQ as our HC too. What was our excuse for being by far the worst prepared team when entering the bubble last season? What was our excuse for having among the worst PPs in the league when we were in dire need for it? What is our excuse for getting record little production out of our first ever first overall pick and a very highly held “1B” pick in Kakko?

People having issues with Quinn shouldn’t have to be ridiculed constantly. His record is god damn awful in many areas he is responsible for. It was a complete joke how we played in the bubble, Carolina looked like a Dynasty. We weren’t even remotely close. It’s a joke that Kakko can’t even get a look on the PP and Strome is cemented there despite being 27th in the league after 30+ games. If Kakko was given 40 games on the top unit, they would start to score too.
 
The frozen pizza playoff push didn’t quite get us over the line in 2010 but it got us one shootout away, I’d take those odds again
 
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I don’t think this is really fair, who is blaming Quinn for “everything”? Nobody.

But he is here to help, it shouldn’t be about him not being blamed for a bunch of disasters and only deserving it for a few of them. He should be a positive impact on the team.

Quinn as a head coach is like having Howden as a 2nd line center. Howden is blamed for way too much than he deserves too. He works hard, skates hard. He does cover well for his wingers in terms of getting back and getting in on the forecheck. He covers a lot of ice.

But I would have issues with Howden as our 2nd line C and I have issues with DQ as our HC too. What was our excuse for being by far the worst prepared team when entering the bubble last season? What was our excuse for having among the worst PPs in the league when we were in dire need for it? What is our excuse for getting record little production out of our first ever first overall pick and a very highly held “1B” pick in Kakko?

People having issues with Quinn shouldn’t have to be ridiculed constantly. His record is god damn awful in many areas he is responsible for. It was a complete joke how we played in the bubble, Carolina looked like a Dynasty. We weren’t even remotely close. It’s a joke that Kakko can’t even get a look on the PP and Strome is cemented there despite being 27th in the league after 30+ games. If Kakko was given 40 games on the top unit, they would start to score too.
If you had to make such analogy I’d use Chytil, not Howden.

And you were honest here, just a few weeks ago virtually everything had “Quinn’s to blame” angle.
 
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Who friggin' cares what comes out of a coaches mouth to the media? It is nothing but coach speak. Of course he is going to so that he has two #1 goalies. Sounds to me like we are going at great length to invent something that never actually existed.
right. Quinn saying there's a rotation and the games being split 60/40 proves the fact of the matter. You're not interested in that, you only care that you don't have to concede Quinn messed up somewhere. Let it go.

To some of the Quinninites, he can do no wrong and there's an excuse for every thing. He's the perfect coach and he's infallible. It's like I'm listening to Baghdad Bob.

I've talked about his strengths before... but when the team is underachieving, the head coach is public enemy #1. The team finding success over the past month does not negate the slop of hockey that took place.
 
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Because Quinn was a moron who had an 8 game coaching carousel. Have you not read the boards, man? I mean he SAID that they are both #1s!
It happened. It was not a big deal. It’s in the past but it was not invented or made up. Just like the too many man penalties. They happened. They were eventually corrected and thats it. Move on to the next. Geez a four word sentence gets 2 pages of arguments. The funny thing is we agree on most things
 
C'mon lads, where's the optimism?

All they have to do is be within 4 points before the back to back Bruins games.

Is anyone going to seriously tell me a roster with this much talent, now completely healthy, can't string together a run here?

In Igor we trust.

Win 8 of the next 11 games. 16 points.

Boston wins 8 of the next 13. 16 points.

Two games, regulation wins required. NYR have the ROW tiebreaker.

What's unfortunate upon re-looking at the schedule is that the two games in hand could come after our 2 game series, which could make for some stressful couch watching.
Most people are optimistic ( until they come out flat ). Ardent Quinn supporters are the ones that sound bitter.. Weird.

Forget Boston... We're going after the Piles
 
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Most people are optimistic ( until they come out flat ). Ardent Quinn supporters are the ones that sound bitter.. Weird.

Forget Boston... We're going after the Piles


Got three games left against them so sure why not. Keep winning games and good things will happen
 
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Why are we still doing this lol? Come on, Shesterkin became this team’s starter when he was still in the AHL.
Because @True Blue brought it up... again.... with another attempt to revision what happened... again.

On the opposite side of the spectrum, it'd be like me saying Buch developed in Russia and Quinn had nothing to do with it. It will get challenged
 
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