Speculation: Roster Building Thread LXXXIII: Smell a smaller trade incoming?

[True Blue]

You forgot Christian Dube, Dale Purinton, and Stu Bickel.

Careful of this rabbit hole

 

[duhmetreE]

I know the consensus would be Newhook, but I like Krebs more.

Although, I don't think I make that trade straight up.

Krebs checks all the boxes IMO that we need

 

[JohnC]

Another potential outcome is having that player replace a center that potentially goes to Buffalo for Eichel.

Any word on where they’re at RE Eichel? We know they’re obviously interested, and most likely standing firm on a package they deem as not an overpayment, curious of how interested they actually are and if they think they can make it happen.

Also, any rumblings on where they’re at RE retaining Zibanejad? I’d imagine they look at this season as an outlier, but we know they’ve previously been concerned with his injury history.

 

[duhmetreE]

Another potential outcome is having that player replace a center that potentially goes to Buffalo for Eichel.

I trust your info and judgment.

On a scale of 1-10, 10 being Gorton and JD would do anything to land Eichel, where are we?

I also assume you’re talking about Chytil.

 

[SA16]

wow. PDG and Bennett are not comparables. Bennett has some puck skills; PDG does not. He forechecks, he skates. Once he gets the puck, not good.

He is a nothing player that is not worth any commitment. You can get someone similar for near minimum as a FA. We already have with Blackwell and he is better. There's no point even trading for him because his QO is too high and he's not worth qualifying.

 

[IronBloodedLion]

I'm still not convinced that Zib's lack of production is not COVID related. The way he started so strongly the other night and then faded as the game progressed seems telling to me. It's as if he has only a certain amount of energy to expend and he is still compromised. Long COVID may be the issue.

I agree with this completely. He’s had flashes, but he still just looks off. I share in a lot of peoples frustration, but I still give him the benefit of the doubt.

 

[Avery16]

I knew this would happen. Everyone said when they drafted him that this kid is not too far from the nhl. He’s not a trouba replacement if he’s ready by next year

I think you meant to reply to the Schneider news, not to the Geertsen news.

 

[jay from jersey]

I think you meant to reply to the Schneider news, not to the Geertsen news.

I did, I’m a schmuck thank you

 

[GAGLine]

Lundkvist for Frost
Lundkvist for Hayton
Lundkvist for Krebs
Lundkvist for Newhook

which one? and which one is more likely? or none of the above?

Don't want Lundkvist in Philly.
Arizona needs Hayton way more than they need Lundkvist.
I would prefer Glass, but doubt Vegas would do that.
Colorado is stacked on defense. There was speculation that the might trade Justin Barron. Can't see them trading a center for a dman.

 

[Avery16]

I did, I’m a schmuck thank you

At first I was like "holy shit is this guy high on Geertsen"

 

[Cmox]

At first I was like "holy shit is this guy high on Geertsen"

Hehe, I really had the same thought.

 

[jay from jersey]

At first I was like "holy shit is this guy high on Geertsen"

lol

 

[AKA Chief]

Not giving up on the rebuild whatsoever. It's the timeline. Washington, Pitt (though they are closer to collapsing), Car, Phil, NYI, and even CBJ are all better than the Rangers, and won't just turn to crap next year. The Rangers getting better next year doesn't mean they will be all of a sudden better than the teams ahead of them. MAYBE Pitt.

We are rebuilding, this is NOT the team they are going to go all in with. Next year it gets closer, but they aren't "good" next year. Look at the average age of the team, it's a bunch of boys. This is a 2-3 year away team from being possibly good. It is what it is. It's a rebuild. There are no guarantees in anything either. You either get results or you don't. No one has seen any results in the past three years. None! A good 2021-2022 year is around the 9th place mark in the East. That would be progress!

There is too much talent on this team for it not to be a playoff team next season. The forwards should be carrying us to a PO spot this season but - stating the obvious - Zibs has been unproductive, which has been the killer. The Achilles heal of this team is what will be its strength, the defense. We currently need more maturation and more talent. A Dman ready to play top 4 minutes would change things immensely.

My fear is Gorton will be so in love with his picks that he will preach patience until all of his young D are steady NHL Dmen...and we will have wasted Zibs' current low salary and prime Panarin years.

 

[Synergy27]

The last one is the only one I'd consider. It sucks that Anaheim doesn't have center depth because Lundkvist-for-Zegras would be perfect for both parties

Let’s just repeat this however many times we have to until it becomes reality. I am really excited to see what Nils can bring but Zegras is easily my favorite non Rangers prospect. Wish there was a way to get him here.

 

[MarkMessyay11]

I would say correct and probably/most likely.

So, unless we include Chytil, any trade involving Eichel and the Rangers would likely wait until summer then? Correct me if I'm wrong, but trading Chytil for Eichel while (somewhat) simultaneously moving Zib for a younger C to replace Chytil seems like way too many moving parts to happen mid season. Summer allows you time to a) put together a package for Eichel that won't severely impact your on-ice roster and b) replace the pieces you shipped to Buffalo in a precursory/subsequent trade of Zibanejad.

I guess a 3-way is possible, but that would be one of the craziest in-season trades to ever happen.

 

[Chytilmania]

So, unless we include Chytil, any trade involving Eichel and the Rangers would likely wait until summer then? Correct me if I'm wrong, but trading Chytil for Eichel while (somewhat) simultaneously moving Zib for a younger C to replace Chytil seems like way too many moving parts to happen mid season. Summer allows you time to a) put together a package for Eichel that won't severely impact your on-ice roster and b) replace the pieces you shipped to Buffalo in a precursory/subsequent trade of Zibanejad.

I guess a 3-way is possible, but that would be one of the craziest in-season trades to ever happen.

Or Chytil explodes now that he's back and we don't want to trade him.

 

[Avery16]

I smell versatility!

 

[TominNC]

The point is to look beyond next year. Say you trade Chytil. Who is 2C and at what price? Strome at what price? How much are you allocating to Fox ‘s contract and Lindgren’s for that matter.

I'm going to guess that Gorton and company have this figured out. They'll pay who they want to keep, trade for assets to fill holes and bring in the kind of FA who can put them over the top.

 

[Avery16]

would take a shot on

 

[aufheben]

He is a nothing player that is not worth any commitment. You can get someone similar for near minimum as a FA. We already have with Blackwell and he is better. There's no point even trading for him because his QO is too high and he's not worth qualifying.

I’ve been beating this drum so hard.

Think I compared him to DiG too lirl

 

[Fitzy]

Another potential outcome is having that player replace a center that potentially goes to Buffalo for Eichel.

I'm gonna assume you're talking about Chytil, not Strome.

 

[KirkAlbuquerque]

would take a shot on

we're never going to pick anyone up off of waivers

 

[Amazing Kreiderman]

Krebs checks all the boxes IMO that we need

I can't walk around in Vienna with a Krebs jersey!

 

[SRHRangers]

Some Sorbo fan is arguing that the Lightning would be foolish not to deal Point for Eichel.

I'm dying of laughter here.

 

[noupf]

I'm still not convinced that Zib's lack of production is not COVID related. The way he started so strongly the other night and then faded as the game progressed seems telling to me. It's as if he has only a certain amount of energy to expend and he is still compromised. Long COVID may be the issue.

I am not a doctor, but it is 100% possible that COVID really screwed up Mika's respitory system. I personally know two younger adult males who had COVID and both are having respitory / stamina issues. Both individuals are in their mid 30's, both in reasonably good shape and both have recovered poorly. They have minor to moderate breathing issues, stamina issues and often times don't have the energy to do many of their day to day activities. Over the last 6 months they have gotten a lot better, but they are still not 100% what they used to be.

It is absolutely possible that COVID screwed up Mika's lungs and or cardiovascular system. to what extent, I don't think we will ever know while he is playing in the NHL. Hopefully he can recover and get close to what he used to be in terms of stamina and cardio abilities.