Speculation: Roster Building Thread LXXXIII: Smell a smaller trade incoming?

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Has to get done just so we can refer to it as the Tony Bennett trade.

Ok I’ll take a lap.
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Lundkvist for Frost
Lundkvist for Hayton
Lundkvist for Krebs
Lundkvist for Newhook

which one? and which one is more likely? or none of the above?

I know the consensus would be Newhook, but I like Krebs more.

Although, I don't think I make that trade straight up.
 
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No chance in hell Zib ever waives to go to Buffalo. Front office should see if Zibanejad would waive to go out west to a team like Colorado, Vegas (Chandler Stephenson as their top line C lol), or Minnesota. The return would have to include Newhook, Krebs, or Boldy/Rossi(I'd imagine Guerin wouldn't want to move Rossi over Boldy though).

Then flip that top C prospect w/ some extra pieces to Buffalo for Eichel.
 
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There are a lot over very young players who will get a lot better. Sure the pessimist can predict that Laf and others don't become stars. I'll stay more optimistic than that. Yes, this is not a winner now, but the pieces are here, or on the way, to jump this team up. Boston, Washington, Pittsburgh are getting old. The Isles, meh. Devils are behind us. The east will be turning over sooner that later.

It's amazing to me how many have given up on the rebuild already. Claiming it a failure or predicting failure.
Not giving up on the rebuild whatsoever. It's the timeline. Washington, Pitt (though they are closer to collapsing), Car, Phil, NYI, and even CBJ are all better than the Rangers, and won't just turn to crap next year. The Rangers getting better next year doesn't mean they will be all of a sudden better than the teams ahead of them. MAYBE Pitt.

We are rebuilding, this is NOT the team they are going to go all in with. Next year it gets closer, but they aren't "good" next year. Look at the average age of the team, it's a bunch of boys. This is a 2-3 year away team from being possibly good. It is what it is. It's a rebuild. There are no guarantees in anything either. You either get results or you don't. No one has seen any results in the past three years. None! A good 2021-2022 year is around the 9th place mark in the East. That would be progress!
 
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No chance in hell Zib ever waives to go to Buffalo. Front office should see if Zibanejad would waive to go out west to a team like Colorado, Vegas (Chandler Stephenson as their top line C lol), or Minnesota. The return would have to include Newhook, Krebs, or Boldy/Rossi(I'd imagine Guerin wouldn't want to move Rossi over Boldy though).

Then flip that top C prospect w/ some extra pieces to Buffalo for Eichel.

If the Rangers are fortunate enough to land a player like Krebs or Newhook, they should absolutely NOT trade them. A young, cheap C is exactly what this team needs more of. Trade from the defensive glut.
 
I dont think Zibanejad gets traded.

I think he likes living in NYC and likes being a Ranger.

I think the Rangers will look to cash in on the flat cap and his dud season to extend Zib for several years at a discounted rate.

I think Zib will bounce back and will be no worse than a great 2C, if he doesnt revert to true 1C form.

Does that mean we have a top-six C of Eichel/Zib or Zib/Chytil? Either one works for me, but FO needs to create the room elsewhere.

Strome at his cap hit is a luxury. So are Trouba and Kreider, but they have NMCs and that's that. DeAngelo's contract coming off will help, given that he'll never play here again. I want to find a way to keep Buchnevich, who is steadily improving all facets of his game.
 
No chance in hell Zib ever waives to go to Buffalo. Front office should see if Zibanejad would waive to go out west to a team like Colorado, Vegas (Chandler Stephenson as their top line C lol), or Minnesota. The return would have to include Newhook, Krebs, or Boldy/Rossi(I'd imagine Guerin wouldn't want to move Rossi over Boldy though).

Then flip that top C prospect w/ some extra pieces to Buffalo for Eichel.

Another potential outcome is having that player replace a center that potentially goes to Buffalo for Eichel.
 
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Lundkvist for Frost
Lundkvist for Hayton
Lundkvist for Krebs
Lundkvist for Newhook

which one? and which one is more likely? or none of the above?

The last one is the only one I'd consider. It sucks that Anaheim doesn't have center depth because Lundkvist-for-Zegras would be perfect for both parties
 
I dont think Zibanejad gets traded.

I think he likes living in NYC and likes being a Ranger.

I think the Rangers will look to cash in on the flat cap and his dud season to extend Zib for several years at a discounted rate.

I think Zib will bounce back and will be no worse than a great 2C, if he doesnt revert to true 1C form.

Does that mean we have a top-six C of Eichel/Zib or Zib/Chytil? Either one works for me, but FO needs to create the room elsewhere.

Strome at his cap hit is a luxury. So are Trouba and Kreider, but they have NMCs and that's that. DeAngelo's contract coming off will help, given that he'll never play here again. I want to find a way to keep Buchnevich, who is steadily improving all facets of his game.
Two years from now, the roster will be Bread, Kreider, Trouba, Shesterkin, Laf, Miller and ~ 50 mil of cap space which won't include Strome.
Things will look very different then compared to the team that is rolling out tonight and Saturday.
 
Another potential outcome is having that player replace a center that potentially goes to Buffalo for Eichel.
That also makes plenty sense.
Two things I know are certain. Zibanejad will never waive to go to buffalo, and Buffalo won't trade Eichel without a good young center/C prospect coming back.
 
I'm still not convinced that Zib's lack of production is not COVID related. The way he started so strongly the other night and then faded as the game progressed seems telling to me. It's as if he has only a certain amount of energy to expend and he is still compromised. Long COVID may be the issue.
 
They have 18M or so more to spend starting next year. (Dead money + Smith + ADA). They can add Eichel without a sweat. Then when you move Mika you have his salary - whatever player(s) you bring in. That will still leave money for 2nd contracts for younger players.
The point is to look beyond next year. Say you trade Chytil. Who is 2C and at what price? Strome at what price? How much are you allocating to Fox ‘s contract and Lindgren’s for that matter.
 
Two years from now, the roster will be Bread, Kreider, Trouba, Shesterkin, Laf, Miller and ~ 50 mil of cap space which won't include Strome.
Things will look very different then compared to the team that is rolling out tonight and Saturday.

If these are the only guys left on the roster in two years then the rebuild was a complete failure.
 
If these are the only guys left on the roster in two years then the rebuild was a complete failure.
No no, what I am saying is that is just what is currently under contract. That 50 mill better include Kakko, Fox and Lindgren. What it shouldn't, in my opinion is include Strome, Lemmy, Goat and other plugs. My personal affection for Zib is waning too. It probably won't include Buch.
 
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