Speculation: Roster Building Thread LXXXI - All along the Watch Tower

[E-Train]

Uncle Larry with some Joel Shermanesque hysterics. Push for a panic trade so they can slam it for years to come.

 

[SnowblindNYR]

Chytil and Lundkvist will be studs guaranteed. Kravtsov I'm not too sure about. However, as a Ranger fan this is most likely the best package we can come up with without letting Laf, Kakko, Miller or Fox go.

I'm not a fan of trading all these assets for him either way. We are in need of a 1C but do we really want to gut our system? Tough decision to be had for sure.

Trading Lundkvist would hurt. Chytil getting replaced by Eichel is a win. We have enough wing prospects.

 

[NYRKING30]

That's about what I'd give up for Eichel. I don't remember players like Kakko, Laf, or Miller ever being moved in trades.

Just only on the HF trade rumor section where every fan base expects to get multiple 1st round picks and multiple top prospects. But GM’s just don’t that. Joe Thornton didn’t get that, Eric Lindros didn’t get that.

 

[pld459666]

Lol people already souring on Shesty?
Guy has a career 2.32 GAA & .928 SV%
He is the KHL record holder for basically every statistical category
He’s the only one of our top end prospects who’s lived up to the hype yet, maybe we were too spoiled with Lundqvist and take elite goaltending as a given, and some are pessimistic about the fact we didn’t win a cup with Hank.

I don't think they are souring on him more than they are recognizing that you don't need a goalie making 8+ to win consistently.

 

[True Blue]

We can sign him above market value to two-year contracts for the rest of his career, I wouldn't mind at all; but he is just such a risky guy to tie up long term.

Then at some point you loose him snd spend the next 5 years either paying a lot of dollars or a lot of assets in trying to replace him. Yeah, we need to see how he holds up, but players like him are is what holds defenses together.

 

[pld459666]

Trading Lundkvist would hurt. Chytil getting replaced by Eichel is a win. We have enough wing prospects.

I think trading Chytil is a mistake.

Mika is not here beyond this contract so we would be w/o a 2nd line center which is exactly what Chytil is trending to be

 

[Harbour Dog]

Then at some point you loose him snd spend the next 5 years either paying a lot of dollars or a lot of assets in trying to replace him. Yeah, we need to see how he holds up, but players like him are is what holds defenses together.

Yeah, I think it comes down to what @Uninstaaled said.

We don't need to commit to anything long term with him right now, so in a few years, we can make a decision based on how's he holding up.

Though, I would definitely hope that we'd approach those negotiations with extra caution, given his style of play.

 

[True Blue]

Chytil, Lundkvist,Kravtsov and a 1st for Eichel. Maybe another small add or pick, if they don’t like it then Buffalo can GTFO.

Chytil, Buch, Lundkvist & a 1st. That should get it done. Not sure that I would make that trade, but that is a very realistic trade profile. The deal does not get done unless another center goes back

 

[NYblades]

I think trading Chytil is a mistake.

Mika is not here beyond this contract so we would be w/o a 2nd line center which is exactly what Chytil is trending to be

If Mika is not here, how do you acquire a 1c will be the challenge without giving up significant pieces.

 

[leetch99]

Chytil, Lundkvist,Kravtsov and a 1st for Eichel. Maybe another small add or pick, if they don’t like it then Buffalo can GTFO.

That gives the Sabres 3 new players for next season and likely a first rounder to join them the following year and frees up 3-4 million they can offer towards a new Hall deal .....they might consider it . That also is a lot of youth to throw away in one deal for a team 2-3 years away from being a cup contender .....means we likely have a run at one cup like 94.....do people want to load up for one cup ?

 

[TheBloodyNine]

Larry’s article talks about trading for Eichel as if the guy doesn’t want to be traded. If he’s requesting a trade then that takes Laf’s name out of the conversation. Selling your fan base on Eichel not wanting to be there is a lot worse than selling them on not getting Laf.

 

[NYRKING30]

Chytil, Buch, Lundkvist & a 1st. That should get it done. Not sure that I would make that trade, but that is a very realistic trade profile. The deal does not get done unless another center goes back

I agree. One of those offers should be a reasonable template for a trade. I’m not crazy to give up Chytil or Lundkvist but you gotta give to get. If they don’t like it, tell them to go find someone else.

 

[True Blue]

We don't need to commit to anything long term with him right now, so in a few years, we can make a

Though, I would definitely hope that we'd approach those negotiations with extra caution, given his style of play.

And that’s completely fair

 

[Chalfdiggity3]

Eichel fits perfect with LaF or Panarin. He’s a shoot first young center whose young and signed long term. However, I’m wary to give up major assets for him because like Zibby, he only has 2 goals. His secondary assists are making him look better then he’s currently playing. I think Barkov is the more complete player and better fit for the team we are building, but getting Eichel would certainly be a coup. I think he may be suffering from a shoulder injury as well as low morale. I just want to make sure they don’t spend a ton of draft capital on damaged goods. I really hope Barkov goes to UFA lol

I dont care if its Barkov or Eichel but either would be perfect. They are top 10 players in this league. Both fit exactly what this team needs.

Eichel is playing uninspired hockey. He is starting to hate his time in Buffalo and its showing on the ice and in his demeanor. He isnt damaged goods. How would you feel being that talented in the nhl and having all that happen to him in buffalo in 5 years? Its rough on a person.

 

[17futurecap]

Even off the bad year, Mika would get a nice return this summer from a team ready to go for a cup, and being able to afford his cheap last year of his contract or a team ready to extend him, and getting him a year before ufa to get a long term deal done.

That would be more assets acquired by the Rangers to help in trades.

 

[NYRKING30]

That gives the Sabres 3 new players for next season and the first rounder join on the following year and frees up 3-4 million they can offer Hall .....they might consider it . That also is a lot of youth to throw away in one deal for a team 2-3 years away from being a cup contender .....means we likely have a run at one cup like 94.....do people want to load up for one cup ?

That team in 94 was much older than the team here now. Kravtsov is a question mark, Chytil hasn’t made himself untouchable yet. You got Fox and Trouba on D with Schneider behind them on that side. The draft this year is nothing spectacular.

 

[NYRKING30]

Maybe if Mika continues the year he has, Gorton just offers him a “lowball” offer of something like 5x7.5. Who knows, it’s just a thought.

 

[True Blue]

There will need to be at least another first and probably Buch.

Wait, wait. Chytil, Lundkvist, Kravstov, Buch AND 2 firsts? Yeah. No. Not even a little bit.

 

[True Blue]

I may be in the minority... I do not give up any of those 5 for Jack Eichel.

That does not make you in the minority

 

[kovazub94]

Chytil, Buch, Lundkvist & a 1st. That should get it done. Not sure that I would make that trade, but that is a very realistic trade profile. The deal does not get done unless another center goes back

Money have to work too. Remove Chytil. Include Strome and Kravtsov.

 

[NYblades]

Wait, wait. Chytil, Lundkvist, Kravstov, Buch AND 2 firsts? Yeah. No. Not even a little bit.

That's an overpay for sure.

 

[pld459666]

If Mika is not here, how do you acquire a 1c will be the challenge without giving up significant pieces.

30+ million of cap space to three players is not a good thing and if you think Mika is making less than 8-9 per on his next deal, I have a surprise for you.

My offer for Eichel is Mika, CK or Buch, top 3 protected 1st in 21 and if necessary, Matt Robertson.

Beyond that, pass

 

[QJL]

I see everyone trying to rank Fox, Kakko, Laf, Miller, and Shesty. Moving any of those names for Eichel is a huge gamble. Each has the potential to be the most valuable of the bunch.

As other have said, a mix of these pieces is the path to Eichel: Buchnevich, Chytil, Kravtsov, Lundkvist, Robertson, Schneider

I don’t see Kreider or Zibanejad waiving.

I lead with:

Kravtsov
Schneider
Strome
2021 Top 3 Protected 1st

 

[NYblades]

30+ million of cap space to three players is not a good thing and if you think Mika is making less than 8-9 per on his next deal, I have a surprise for you.

My offer for Eichel is Mika, CK or Buch, top 3 protected 1st in 21 and if necessary, Matt Robertson.

Beyond that, pass

Mika has a no trade clause doesn't he?

 

[SRHRangers]

Krieder is not waiving.

I dunno about Mika. Would he turn down 9-10 mil AAV from Buffalo?