Something like that. A Lemieux who can win a face off and play 12-15 minutes? Maybe help the second PP unit? Maybe fit, or at least fill in, with Panarin when he needs a shakeup. Otherwise bring 12 minutes of energy and grit? Why not.
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Something like that. A Lemieux who can win a face off and play 12-15 minutes? Maybe help the second PP unit? Maybe fit, or at least fill in, with Panarin when he needs a shakeup. Otherwise bring 12 minutes of energy and grit? Why not.
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I just think that if we were willing to give grinders 2 plus mil a year we would have just re signed Fast
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It was about job security. He wanted to stay, but Rangers only offered 2 years. Carolina offered 3.
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I just can’t imagine that this third year would somehow shoestring the Rangers in any meaningful way. Still unclear on the decision making there
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Yep. Same here. Too good and versatile a player for that to be the deciding factor. Not that I am questioning that it was actually the deciding factor, just questioning the decision itself.
I want to point out that Eichel has as many goals as Mika. I know that Mika has a lot fewer assists but Eichel is a sub PPG player right now some of these trade proposals are crazy. Miller? Laf? Kakko? These aren't guys we are overrating as Rangers fans, all three have superstar potential. f*** that.
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he has 13 points in 14 games so while technically true labeling him a sub PPG is a little bit misleading. and you do really that you aren't trading for a 24 year old for what he's done in the last 12 games right? the rangers aren't trading kakko or lafreniere for anyone, but the sabres will ask for them cause eichel is THAT good. 0.95 points per game in his career on a terrible team. 294 points in 287 games since his rookie year, lets not be silly and act like we shouldn't want him cause he isn't that good
He's good but I'm not trading potential superstars for him. He's not McDavid, McKinnon, or even Matthews.
... And Eichel doesn’t have superstar potential? In fact, it’s quite a stretch to say that any of ours have “superstar” potential. All star potential? Sure. Super star? Like Kane, Matthews, MacKinnon? Maybe Laf. Eichel, on the other hand, is already a borderline superstar. Playing disgruntled for a terribly mismanaged team. I love the HF emphasis on “potential”. Eichel is 24 years old and has 350 points in 368 career games, including 82 points in 77 games and 78 points in 68 games the past two seasons, but we wouldn’t trade Kakko for him because he has “potential”. Potential to be more than a 90 point pacing 1C? Come on.
I'm not bailing out Buffalo, the idea is to add Eichel to the core, not to detract from the core to add him. And you're bringing up a 3 time cup winner and two top 3 or 4 players. You can be a superstar without being a top 5 player in the league.
I'm sure you'd be saying similar things with Mika played on a different team and was at a 60 goal pace last year. Now he's a shell of himself. I'd rather not mortgage the future. How many of those types of players work out for us?
It’s a completely different scenario to acquire Eichel at this point in time. Three years ago no one had MacKinnon ranked like he is now. That’s exactly the type of player Eichel is. I’m not saying mortgage the future, but there are no untouchables for a guy like Eichel, and the closest thing to one would be Fox, just due to position. I mean after 78 points in 68 games as a 23 year old, and 82 in 77 as a 22 year old, you’re using a 14 game sample size this year (in which he still has 13 points) to compare him to Zib being “a shell of himself” after a career year at 27/28?
MacKinnon has had a very unorthodox arc, no guarantee Eichel reaches it. In fact it's unlikely he does.
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He's at PPG while shooting 4%, and his on-ice SH% is 3.86%. And he's been dominant in driving play. Guy is an elite player who is 24 and is locked in at a very reasonable rate through his prime. If you wouldn't give up Miller for Eichel I have to question that big time. The other two I would prefer not to but it would be a tough decision.
But Eichel is already an 80+ point player. He had 82 in 77 as a 22 year old and 78 in 68 as a 23 year old. The start of Eichel’s career has been better than Mackinnon’s and they’re similar players in style. There’s absolutely nothing to suggest that playing on a better team where he’s happy for once he doesn’t have a peak that’s higher than what we’ve already seen. 78 in 68 last year is literally a 94 point pace at 23.
As I said MacKinnon had an unorthodox career. Started fairly well in his rookie season that had a couple of subpar seasons. Production in sports isn't necessarily linear.
Right, but that doesn’t do anything to support Eichel being done developing or not continuing to develop relatively linearly, given the success he’s already had. You’re a finance and numbers guy. Would you bet your family’s savings on the number of times Eichel paces for 90+ points or Kakko paces for 70+?
With Miller playing as strong as he has and Lindgren continuing to Lindgren, I believe our search for top-4 LD is over. Just wait for one of Hajek/Rykov/Reunanen to claim 3LD and call it a day, focus on middle-6 C.
He also made comments about team-wide work ethic and what was expected of him as opposed to what was expected of his linemates/teammates. That seems like another problem, and it cost us one of our more dedicated players, who took less money to leave that environment.
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Maybe we can try this when Fil is back:
Bread. Mika. Laf.
Kreider . Strome. Buch
Gaut.PDG Fil. KK
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