Speculation: Roster Building Thread LXXXI - All along the Watch Tower

[LiveLongandProspal]

Jesper Fast is having a great game for Carolina tonight

 

[Machinehead]

If you wanna put a very positive spin on it I told Raspewtin last night that I see '94 similarities in terms of the core.

-Franchise defenseman that looks like the best piece right now (Leetch; Fox)
-A second defenseman that could potentially be high-end and form an opposite-hand one-two punch (Zubov; Miller)
-A super high-end wing prospect who has immense talent but evident perplexities at the NHL level (Kovalev; Lafreniere)
-An imperious winger who can do a bit of everything (Graves; Kakko)
-Rumors floating that we're going to trade for our franchise center with a captain's pedigree (Messier; Eichel/Crosby)
-Two goaltenders that we keep bouncing between

 

[Daves a mess]

Jesper Fast is having a great game for Carolina tonight

Its like he's responsible for beating the Hawks in the 3rd period all by himself.

Look at him on the PP. Way to go Quicky!

 

[NYRFANMANI]

Gimme:

KZK
PSB
Laf-Black-DiSeppi
Lemmy-Rooney-Gauts

 

[EdJovanovski]

Panarin - Lafreniere - Buchnevich
Lemieux - Strome - Kakko
Rooney - Blackwell - PDG
Kreider - Howden - Gauthier

Scratch: Zibanejad
let’s go

 

[mrmovies779]

Panarin - Lafreniere - Buchnevich
Lemieux - Strome - Kakko
Rooney - Blackwell - PDG
Kreider - Howden - Gauthier

Scratch: Zibanejad
let’s go

Putting a struggling rookie into a top 6 center spot..what could go wrong?that center depth is awful too

 

[Amazing Kreiderman]

Panarin - Lafreniere - Buchnevich
Lemieux - Strome - Kakko
Rooney - Blackwell - PDG
Kreider - Howden - Gauthier

Scratch: Zibanejad
let’s go

Go nuts. Call up Khodorenko. Use the season to give players a shot and see what they can do. Barron and Richards for a game afterwards.

Panarin-Strome-Kakko
Lafrenière-Blackwell-Buchnevich
Kreider-Khodorenko-DiGiuseppe
Lemieux-Rooney-Gauthier

 

[LiveLongandProspal]

 

[Synergy27]

If you wanna put a very positive spin on it I told Raspewtin last night that I see '94 similarities in terms of the core.

-Franchise defenseman that looks like the best piece right now (Leetch; Fox)
-A second defenseman that could potentially be high-end and form an opposite-hand one-two punch (Zubov; Miller)
-A super high-end wing prospect who has immense talent but evident perplexities at the NHL level (Kovalev; Lafreniere)
-An imperious winger who can do a bit of everything (Graves; Kakko)
-Rumors floating that we're going to trade for our franchise center with a captain's pedigree (Messier; Eichel/Crosby)
-Two goaltenders that we keep bouncing between

This is a fun thought experiment, the only problem is that outside of Graves:Kakko, the rest of those comparisons are like bootleg versions of the '94 HOFers.

 

[rangers1314]

Ended the game with 6:30 total.

 

[gravey9]

You know, as a 4th line center I wouldn't mind him. But I don't think he's accepted that fate as a player. I think he wants a bigger role. I just don't think he has the vision or hockey IQ to be on a scoring line. It's not like Calgary wouldn't welcome that if he had it in his game.

 

[gravey9]

Ended the game with 6:30 total.

We call that getting the Gauthier treatment.

EDIT: When you're that good, do you really need to play that 7th minute? Haven't you proven enough?

 

[RGY]

This team has looked pretty lifeless, so I would gladly take Bennett off Calgary’s hands and hope the change of scenery does him good

 

[duhmetreE]

guy sounds power crazy

their situation is getting very bad. When the org and player start having rifts... it gets weird.

 

[UnSandvich]

I'm aware it'd probably be considered "not good enough", but about the most I'd be willing to give up for Eichel is

Buch
Strome/DeAngelo (for cap purposes)
2021 1st (Top 10 protected)
2022 1st (Conditional on Rangers reaching ECF during 2021 or 2022, otherwise 2nd)
Lundkvist/Kravtsov

Alternatively something around Zibanejad

I'm not really interested in mortgaging the team's future for Eichel, b/c quite frankly i don't think he's the piece that'd put us over the top. Not interested in moving any of Kakko, Laf, Fox, Miller, Shesterkin for instance

 

[RGY]

guy sounds power crazy

their situation is getting very bad. When the org and player start having rifts... it gets weird.

It looks all very toxic in Calgary right now. They are all underperforming. Markstrom has been good, but the rest...

Reminds me a lot of a similar situation close to home...


Edit: Also VAN about to lose again. Another team struggling dearly. And they had higher expectations than both Calgary and the Rangers.

Bennett from CGY and Gaudette from VAN? I’d go get both. Virtanen? Can we pry Horvat out of there with a package?

 

[rangers1314]

Another ugly loss for Van.

I wish Nils Hoglander was on our team.

 

[FireGerardGallant]

Another ugly loss for Van.

I wish Nils Hoglander was on our team.

Told my friends before the season I wanted to trade Tda for him and Rathbone. Obviously not a chance in hell that can happen anymore

 

[jay from jersey]

Well, yes and no. We were never meant to compete for a cup this season- the goal was the make the playoffs and give the young guys that experience. Laf and Kakko's slow statistical start should actually help keep the AAV down on their next contracts.

The key will be whether the stars align properly, and if Kakko and Laf come into their own at 22, which is pretty much the norm for star players, will Panarin at 31-32-33 still be at the same level. I'm optimistic that even if he isn't at 100 point seasons, he'll still be a 75-90 point guy.

But if NYR's rebuild is successful, Panarin will only need to be a complementary player, the way Stamkos is in Tampa Bay or Nylander is in Toronto. Then, ideally, Kakko Laf, Fox, Miller and Shesty will be the new veteran core after the departure (Or lower re-signed rate) of Panarin Kreider and Trouba.

If we are talking about guys aging poorly and having anchor contracts, I'm much more worried about Trouba, Kreider, and Zibanejad than Panarin. Playmakers often have very long careers. Panarin is so savvy he barely ever gets hit.

Trouba’s deal ends when he’s 31. Can’t really lump him in with Kreids and zibby

 

[Machinehead]

This is a fun thought experiment, the only problem is that outside of Graves:Kakko, the rest of those comparisons are like bootleg versions of the '94 HOFers.

Yes. We stink.

 

[Amazing Kreiderman]

Trouba’s deal ends when he’s 31. Can’t really lump him in with Kreids and zibby

32. But yes, not really comparable to Kreider who will be 36 by the time his contract ends.

 

[AlaBlueShirt]

guy sounds power crazy

their situation is getting very bad. When the org and player start having rifts... it gets weird.

Nothing crazy here. GM just showing who’s the boss.

What’s crazy tho? These young players demanding trades and acting like a child when things don’t go your way.

 

[IDvsEGO]

Nothing crazy here. GM just showing who’s the boss.

What’s crazy tho? These young players demanding trades and acting like a child when things don’t go your way.

I mean that's maybe an argument to be made about PLD but nothing about bennett said he gave anything less than 100%.

 

[egelband]

Go nuts. Call up Khodorenko. Use the season to give players a shot and see what they can do. Barron and Richards for a game afterwards.

Panarin-Strome-Kakko
Lafrenière-Blackwell-Buchnevich
Kreider-Khodorenko-DiGiuseppe
Lemieux-Rooney-Gauthier

I think they’ve got about two weeks to start things going in the right direction. But if they keep losing/floundering it would make a ton of sense to sell/sit any player not part of the future and play the kids extremely.

 

[Daves a mess]

Its like he's responsible for beating the Hawks in the 3rd period all by himself.

Look at him on the PP. Way to go Quicky!