Speculation: Roster Building Thread LXXXI: ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

[CLW]

I’d understand the move if it makes sense but I put higher up then all those d you mentioned besides lundkvist. I would move any of them (again maybe not Lundkvist) before Miller if possible. On top of that I think Miller will be better than Lindgren when he’s Lindgrens age.

Yes, it's a matter of how you rate them. Personally I think Jones, given 3 years, may look a lot like Fox does today. That's huge and would be hard to trade for me. Lundkvist, if his game translates, also seems a rare talent. Schneider and Lindgren are needed because of physical play. Robertson may be good, but doesn't carry as much trade return potentially. That leaves Miller as the player with the most bang for the buck in return. Now this is just spitballing since we haven't seen many of the others in the NHL yet, but the rationale behind Miller being a potential trade pawn. An abundance of riches as I said, and not all can stay.

 

[NYRangers16]

yes, dont think he will reach full potential. Think he will end up being a good top 4 dman. But not elite.

also dont think he will be a person that becomes a grinder who uses his body well.

but i wouls only trade KAm for a top flight center. Or top center prospect. Otherwise keep in the ahl for half season and see where he goes. Im not trading him for the sake of trading him, but rathwr to trade from strenght to upgrade a weakness.

LD is not a strength. Not even close.

 

[Machinehead]

Jamie Olesiak checks a lot of boxes for us if we could sign him short and reasonable

The only box he doesn't check is that Nemeth is better at everything.

 

[Shesterkybomb]

Yes, it's a matter of how you rate them. Personally I think Jones, given 3 years, may look a lot like Fox does today. That's huge and would be hard to trade for me. Lundkvist, if his game translates, also seems a rare talent. Schneider and Lindgren are needed because of physical play. Robertson may be good, but doesn't carry as much trade return potentially. That leaves Miller as the player with the most bang for the buck in return. Now this is just spitballing since we haven't seen many of the others in the NHL yet, but the rationale behind Miller being a potential trade pawn. An abundance of riches as I said, and not all can stay.

Not trading a 6'5 mobile dman after his rookie year....its not happening

 

[Ola]

Yeah, nevermind, I'm letting somebody else handle that one.

You need to transform this team. Look, what transpired the last weeks were a big deal. We have a rep as by far the softest team in the league right now. Other teams will pounce on that, forever, until we really do something about it. We cannot cautiously steer back in the right direction and think it willl be alright if we just get back to the same territory as some other teams that get by.

Nothing but an over-reaction will suffice. That roster accomplish that. That team would be tough to play against, for NYI and Washington. For me it’s worth it. There are not many alternatives out there. Virtanen is one of very very few players that physically is on par with someone like Wilson. Guhle is a unique physical specimen. Max Domi is what he is, but as a 3rd line C, he can definitely help someone like Kakko getting the puck and he will battle and can rumble.

 

[TheDirtyH]

You could definitely be right!

I’m picking up what you’re putting down. I’m just saying that while kreiders contract looks bad rn, it’s worth remembering that he took a substantial pay cut to stick around. He’s no Adam Graves, but I’ve never been less than impressed by Kreider as a person, from my limited pov as a fan.

 

[Ruggs225]

LD is not a strength. Not even close.

Lindgren
Robertson
Miller
Jones

4 people for 3 spots. Its a strength. It is also easy to fill in LD with FA.

center is not at strength at all. Especially top wnd ones. And that is not easy to fill.

if we can get a top young center or center prospect for miller. I do it 10/10 and not really think twice. I dont think any of lundkvist, robertson,Schneider or jones would fetch as much as miller.
Miller clearly has the highest potential, but i think he also is the least likely to reach his full potential.

 

[CLW]

Not trading a 6'5 mobile dman after his rookie year....its not happening

Depends on the return. For most teams it would be out of the question, but the Rangers can find internal replacements from their stock.

 

[Machinehead]

You need to transform this team. Look, what transpired the last weeks were a big deal. We have a rep as by far the softest team in the league right now. Other teams will pounce on that, forever, until we really do something about it. We cannot cautiously steer back in the right direction and think it willl be alright if we just get back to the same territory as some other teams that get by.

Nothing but an over-reaction will suffice. That roster accomplish that. That team would be tough to play against, for NYI and Washington. For me it’s worth it. There are not many alternatives out there. Virtanen is one of very very few players that physically is on par with someone like Wilson. Guhle is a unique physical specimen. Max Domi is what he is, but as a 3rd line C, he can definitely help someone like Kakko getting the puck and he will battle and can rumble.

I don't want Virtanen. Period.

 

[Shesterkybomb]

The only box he doesn't check is that Nemeth is better at everything.

Except fighting.

 

[NYRangers16]

Lindgren
Robertson
Miller
Jones

4 people for 3 spots. Its a strength. It is also easy to fill in LD with FA.

center is not at strength at all. Especially top wnd ones. And that is not easy to fill.

if we can get a top young center or center prospect for miller. I do it 10/10 and not really think twice. I dont think any of lundkvist, robertson,Schneider or jones would fetch as much as miller.
Miller clearly has the highest potential, but i think he also is the least likely to reach his full potential.

Robertson hasn’t played an NHL game. Jones played how many games this year? And you want to trade the #2 of the bunch. Gtfo. When we actually have a#3 who can handle #1 duties talk to me.

edit: And oh wait, that’s KAM. Talk about desperate. This rookie played #1 minutes competantly. That doesn’t even include growth. You are out of your mind. KAM is part of the core.

Unless we have players under Fox, Lindgren, KAM and (unfortunately) Trouba. Do you see any handling first line minutes? Who are they?

 

[Shesterkybomb]

I don't want Virtanen. Period.

Hes on sex assault charges.

 

[Ruggs225]

I don't want Virtanen. Period.

He has apolice investigation on him for sexual misconduct. Until that clears hell no

 

[Machinehead]

Except fighting.

Don't care.

I want the team to have some pushback but I don't believe winning fights has any bearing in anything.

 

[Ruggs225]

Robertson hasn’t played an NHL game. Jones played how many games this year? And you want to trade the #2 of the bunch. Gtfo. When we actually have a#3 who can handle #1 duties talk to me.

again, alot easier to get a LD man than a center. Alot easier.

And again, im not really sold on miller hitting his potential.

i can see why people are, but im not.

 

[SRHRangers]

I don't want Virtanen. Period.

I don't want Max Domi period.

 

[Ola]

I don't want Virtanen. Period.

Can definitely respect that, of course don’t know him. From the little I’ve learned, I wouldn’t rule out that a change of scenery could help.

And I do think that we — must — get different types of personalities into the room. First of all, one bad egg don’t ruin others. These guys are super pros. One bad egg might create something really bad with another bad egg, but that is no risk with our roster so far. Second of all, like you need a dynamic lockerroom. This is one area where I definitely didn’t agree with Gorton.

 

[mike14]

You need to transform this team. Look, what transpired the last weeks were a big deal. We have a rep as by far the softest team in the league right now. Other teams will pounce on that, forever, until we really do something about it. We cannot cautiously steer back in the right direction and think it willl be alright if we just get back to the same territory as some other teams that get by.

Nothing but an over-reaction will suffice. That roster accomplish that. That team would be tough to play against, for NYI and Washington. For me it’s worth it. There are not many alternatives out there. Virtanen is one of very very few players that physically is on par with someone like Wilson. Guhle is a unique physical specimen. Max Domi is what he is, but as a 3rd line C, he can definitely help someone like Kakko getting the puck and he will battle and can rumble.

This sounds eerily similar to the thought process that lead to McIlrath

 

[NYRangers16]

again, alot easier to get a LD man than a center. Alot easier.

And again, im not really sold on miller hitting his potential.

i can see why people are, but im not.

He’s 21 years old, a rookie, and played #1 minutes.

PS still waiting on your LD’s other than Lindgren. Depth? What depth? It’s literally our weakest position.

 

[jay from jersey]

Yes, it's a matter of how you rate them. Personally I think Jones, given 3 years, may look a lot like Fox does today. That's huge and would be hard to trade for me. Lundkvist, if his game translates, also seems a rare talent. Schneider and Lindgren are needed because of physical play. Robertson may be good, but doesn't carry as much trade return potentially. That leaves Miller as the player with the most bang for the buck in return. Now this is just spitballing since we haven't seen many of the others in the NHL yet, but the rationale behind Miller being a potential trade pawn. An abundance of riches as I said, and not all can stay.

Robertson is going to be such a stud, people don’t even realize. He’s flying under the radar somewhat because we have so many talented D prospects in the pipeline. The kid does everything well. He’s so steady. Doesn’t shy away from the physical side of the game. Not small either

 

[EdJovanovski]

I’ve been saying it for like 2 years but pls for the love of God get ZADOROV. Blackhawks are up against the cap bad and he’s going to be available

@0:47 <— watch that and tell me you don’t want that guy on this team lol




He is one of the most beloved players too, he has a huge personality

 

[Machinehead]

I have my concerns about the team but if I cared any less about what other teams think, I would be legally dead.

I've seen the Washington Capitals. Several times a year. I don't think there's been a cognitive thought in that room in years.

 

[NYRangers16]

Robertson is going to be such a stud, people don’t even realize. He’s flying under the radar somewhat because we have so many talented D prospects in the pipeline. The kid does everything well. He’s so steady. Doesn’t shy away from the physical side of the game. Not small either

He’s done nothing yet. Prospects are projections. We have no idea if he’ll make it. Hoping for the best. Gorton left us with a great prospect pool. Not all will make it. If we are looking to turn the corner as Dolan has directed some of our posters, then I look to on ice performance. Everything else is wishful thinking.

 

[CLW]

Robertson is going to be such a stud, people don’t even realize. He’s flying under the radar somewhat because we have so many talented D prospects in the pipeline. The kid does everything well. He’s so steady. Doesn’t shy away from the physical side of the game. Not small either

Exactly my point. People are flipping out at the thought of trading KAM, but... there may be better just around the corner, which is not a bad position to be in for the Rangers.

 

[CLW]

I think dealing Miller would wind up being an awful day in the history of the NYR.

He's like the pitcher that throws 101 but needs to learn control.

You don't get rid of guys like that because if he harnesses everything and becomes Randy Johnson, youre a running joke forever.

Kid is 21 and was rushed up. He's part of the solution.

Sure, but the same thing may happen with Jones or Lundkvist if/when they are traded because the Rangers just can't keep them all for reasons.