Speculation: Roster Building Thread LXXX: MOAR sandpaper, guts & glory?

[Oscar Lindberg]

You should go read it a few more times.

Continue to be naive I guess

 

[nyr2k2]

I don't really see how it's a puff piece in any way. Reporting that the guy's slur in juniors was ethnic and not racial makes it puff? Talking to relevant parties--Miller's agent, Marc Staal at length about the locker room--makes it puff? Pointing out that the team told him for years to lower his social media profile but Tony couldn't help himself is puff? Referring to the COVID tweet by linking to his own article about it which was not complimentary to DeAngelo? Puff?

The crux of the article is at the end, when Brooks points out that DeAngelo is out of hockey for non-hockey reasons: some of which are his fault, others which may not be. It's like it's an article about DeAngelo that's not a hit piece, so it's a "fluff" piece, which is absurd.

I feel like some people, on both sides of this "debate," just want to be outraged.

 

[Crease]

The irony is that the Rangers probably encouraged Brooks to write the piece to help ADA’s trade value.

 

[duhmetreE]

I don't really see how it's a puff piece in any way. Reporting that the guy's slur in juniors was ethnic and not racial makes it puff? Talking to relevant parties--Miller's agent, Marc Staal at length about the locker room--makes it puff? Pointing out that the team told him for years to lower his social media profile but Tony couldn't help himself is puff? Referring to the COVID tweet by linking to his own article about it which was not complimentary to DeAngelo?

The crux of the article is at the end, when Brooks points out that DeAngelo is out of hockey for non-hockey reasons: some of which are his fault, others which may not be. It's like it's an article about DeAngelo that's not a hit piece, so it's a "fluff" piece, which is absurd.

I feel like some people, on both sides of this "debate," just want to be outraged.

that's been the issue for too long. People looking for reasons to be offended. It's an addiction and they want people to 'Like' their outrage

 

[Tob]

well pardon Larry Brooks for writing a puff piece mentioning how Tony has been mistreated, libeled, and slandered and is in fact great to his community with charitable causes and bringing up testimony from Staal to dismiss vile rumors after countless articles and notable people including journalists mistreated, libeled, and slandered him.

 

[duhmetreE]

It's a psychological drive called Directionally Motivated Reasoning.

Most people have underlying biases that drive them to seek confirmatory evidence, choose anecdotes that fit their narrative, and are even more likely to recall evidence that fits with their priors. It's a huge problem in sports, politics, ect.

There's also a cognitive dissonance problem, i.e when a person you like does something stupid/wrong or a person you dislike turns out to do something right.

We are never going to be sober and impartial adjudicators of the facts, and websites like twitter (Which is basically some idiot's idea of "Hey, let's make the dreaded comments section a website") amplify the problems with our reasoning. It's bad. Some dude here legit accused me of racism for not being sufficiently anti-DeAngelo before this ordeal began.

Emotion. If what you're writing is based off of unbridled emotion, this is what you get.

Logic and critical thinking is a super power in 2021. I'm an Avenger.

 

[archanfelnsx]

I wonder if any of our insiders know if the Rangers put in a claim on Galchenyuk.

 

[Sayba]

The person who shall not be named is simply a 25 year old hockey player and a good 1 at that. Let it freaking go already, he is off the team what else do you want? We should be happy for any positive press, helps us the Rangers get the deal done hopefully.

 

[KirkAlbuquerque]

I wonder if any of our insiders know if the Rangers put in a claim on Galchenyuk.

I sure hope not. He's finished as an NHL. 5 teams in 2 years or something like that. Even his 3rd overall status can't keep him afloat any longer. Terrible player, not even a true center, we have no use for him

 

[pld459666]

The person who shall not be named is simply a 25 year old hockey player and a good 1 at that. Let it freaking go already, he is off the team what else do you want? We should be happy for any positive press, helps us the Rangers get the deal done hopefully.

Whats wrong with saying DeAngelo's name?

 

[pld459666]

I sure hope not. He's finished as an NHL. 5 teams in 2 years or something like that. Even his 3rd overall status can't keep him afloat any longer. Terrible player, not even a true center, we have no use for him

Hes gotten a longer NHL leash than Yakupov got thats for sure.

Not warranted, but its there

 

[Sayba]

Whats wrong with saying DeAngelo's name?

Some people on this board go nuts and threads get locked. I'm just going to refer to him as the person who shall not be named going forward.

 

[jay from jersey]

The person who shall not be named is simply a 25 year old hockey player and a good 1 at that. Let it freaking go already, he is off the team what else do you want? We should be happy for any positive press, helps us the Rangers get the deal done hopefully.

This. I have no prob saying ADA can be a jerk/ hot head rub people the wrong way etc. what’s done is done. He’s gone, largely cause the hatred between him and Quinn and his mouth. Your employer can tell you how to act. Plain and simple. Whether Quinn was afraid of losing the room, whatever etc. what’s done is done. I just don’t want to pile a ton of unverified hurtful labels on a guy when there’s no facts to back them up

 

[SingnBluesOnBroadway]

Whats wrong with saying DeAngelo's name?

If you say his name three times while looking in a mirror he appears.

 

[pld459666]

If you say his name three times while looking in a mirror he appears.

Hysterical.

 

[Shesterkybomb]

I love how people's opinions of Larry Brooks change depending on whether he writes something they agree with or not. Im hopeful his little article helps us get something back for ADA.

 

[Vitto79]

I love how people's opinions of Larry Brooks change depending on whether he writes something they agree with or not. Im hopeful his little article helps us get something back for ADA.

from all the videos I have seen Tony wasn’t a bad teammate he tried to have fun

he just has a temper and went overboard a bunch of times .... I think he deserves a chance but I’m a glass half full kinda guy

 

[SRHRangers]

Do I think Brooks article is a bit of a puff piece? Yeah I do.

Do I also think that this piece has more than one use? Absolutely.

TDA is allowed and needed to have his side of the story told. Especially, after he was flat out slandered by an amateur blogger.

 

[Fitzy]

The irony is that the Rangers probably encouraged Brooks to write the piece to help ADA’s trade value.

Yeah it often seems like NYR use Brooks to leak info for strategic purposes.

 

[Avery16]

The “journos” slamming Brooks are pretty suspect, IMO. Wyshynski, who pretty vocally supported Herman, is now promoting someone who claimed Brooks blocks critics on Twitter unless they’re women. If they’re women, he slides into their DMs and “reprimands” them.

Evidence for this is a screenshot of a DM with a person, possibly a woman, where he asks if she considers herself to be tolerant. Only this screenshot is used to prop up a narrative that he is a serial DM predator of women on Twitter. It reminds me of Herman’s “evidence” re Puckgate.

The same account claimed DeAngelo would get paid “5 million for a bunch of years”, I suppose referring to his current contract for 4.8, expiring after next season.

Forget puff pieces- these “journalists” who promote narratives they know or should reasonably know to be false should lose their credibility and their jobs.

 

[Cmox]

Yea he’s definitely not a tremendous loss. Just that fact he never got a call up is what everyone is talking about. Look at JAM in Vegas. Some guys just seize the opportunity later, or when they get one, they don’t let it go

I really liked JAM when he was on the pack. It was apparent he has talent and I think he did well there. It was really odd to me they didn’t keep him.

 

[KirkAlbuquerque]

The “journos” slamming Brooks are pretty suspect, IMO. Wyshynski, who pretty vocally supported Herman, is now promoting someone who claimed Brooks blocks critics on Twitter unless they’re women. If they’re women, he slides into their DMs and “reprimands” them.

Evidence for this is a screenshot of a DM with a person, possibly a woman, where he asks if she considers herself to be tolerant. Only this screenshot is used to prop up a narrative that he is a serial DM predator of women on Twitter. It reminds me of Herman’s “evidence” re Puckgate.

The same account claimed DeAngelo would get paid “5 million for a bunch of years”, I suppose referring to his current contract for 4.8, expiring after next season.

Forget puff pieces- these “journalists” who promote narratives they know or should reasonably know to be false should lose their credibility and their jobs.

of course the biggest cuck of them all Dom Lcuzuczcztczicn is chiming in to try and get his clout, and calling Brooks' article "problematic" lmao . Twitter truly is the center of the clown universe

 

[Cmox]

I don't really see how it's a puff piece in any way. Reporting that the guy's slur in juniors was ethnic and not racial makes it puff? Talking to relevant parties--Miller's agent, Marc Staal at length about the locker room--makes it puff? Pointing out that the team told him for years to lower his social media profile but Tony couldn't help himself is puff? Referring to the COVID tweet by linking to his own article about it which was not complimentary to DeAngelo? Puff?

The crux of the article is at the end, when Brooks points out that DeAngelo is out of hockey for non-hockey reasons: some of which are his fault, others which may not be. It's like it's an article about DeAngelo that's not a hit piece, so it's a "fluff" piece, which is absurd.

I feel like some people, on both sides of this "debate," just want to be outraged.

What’s weird to me is that it seems some people want him to be a racist piece of shit no matter what. A story could come out of him saving orphans from a burning building and it will turn into a “ nope, no way he’s a ____. don’t believe it ” argument. Why do people want him to be puck stealing racist ?

 

[tbassler]

Lucyzsehen and Wyshinki are ignorant liberals. I can't stand either of them.

All logical thought goes out the window when they talk about anything besides hockey. When I figured this out, I immediately quit reading or listening to any of their work. I don't miss them a bit.

 

[Fitzy]

What’s weird to me is that it seems some people want him to be a racist piece of shit no matter what. A story could come out of him saving orphans from a burning building and it will turn into a “ nope, no way he’s a ____. don’t believe it ” argument. Why do people want him to be puck stealing racist ?

We want everyone we don't like to be 100% awful, and everyone we do like to be 100% good.

Plenty of good non racial reasons to jettison ADA from this franchise.

Critical thinking skills are dangerously low atm