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Speculation: Roster Building Thread LXXX: Going 8-0 to close out might not be enough!

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Uninstaaled said:
Well he should be for Eichel.
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I dont even view Chytil as a Center. If we had more depth at center and less young talent on the wings, then he would be a wing. He does not matchup well as a Center, he doesnt win faceoffs, doesnt defend great (average at best), and his hockey IQ just doesnt seem high enough for what the position requires.

So saying he is “untouchable” is laughable. Yes I would move him in a heartbeat for a proven center. Doesn’t have to be Eichel, but I move him.
 
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Ziba to Buffalo for Mittlestad, 2021 2nd and 2022 1st

Strome to CBJ for Boone Jenner

Buch to MTL for Kaiden Guhle and a 4th

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jay from jersey said:
Right on the money with a lot of points here. Strome/panarin line for sure gets abused in tight physical games. That’s definitely a big problem that has to be remedied going forward
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These two Islanders games have been a huge revelation. I know many here have seen it before, and even the front office has been saying it for a while, but it’s painfully obvious now that this team needs to be more imposing. I would say it only takes a couple of the right players injected to make a sea change. Those players are hard to find though.
 
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Rangers should haves went after Josh Norris when he was available 50 games 15 goals 32 points 2017 drafted. Good rookie year for him as a 21 year old. Developed the right way.
 
RGY said:
I dont even view Chytil as a Center. If we had more depth at center and less young talent on the wings, then he would be a wing. He does not matchup well as a Center, he doesnt win faceoffs, doesnt defend great (average at best), and his hockey IQ just doesnt seem high enough for what the position requires.

So saying he is “untouchable” is laughable. Yes I would move him in a heartbeat for a proven center. Doesn’t have to be Eichel, but I move him.
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+1. The more I see of Chytil the less I like. The draft where we took him and Lias right now is a huge disappointment. Add the fact that KK has struggled and this really has set us back in terms of progress.
 
UAGoalieGuy said:
Why on earth would the Rangers ever do that? If the allegations are true he's scum. Rangers will just buy ADA out and only have ~$400K cap hit from it.
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What exactly are they accusing him of? Rape? Weren't there allegations that Panarin beat up some girl?

OK how about DeAngelo + 4th rounder for Virtanen + 2nd rounder
 
Chytil is the only center that has any forechecking, cycling ability.

He's not very good defensively though.
 
I'd make nearly everyone available in attempts to 'fix' the roster balance. Buch and Strome are likely gone. Chytil is dumb but our best skating 'Center', might work best with Panarin.

I'd overpay for Lundell to replace Strome. I'd really love Toews
 
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Off Sides said:
Chytil is the only center that has any forechecking, cycling ability.

He's not very good defensively though.
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I think they like him. Whole team blows on face offs. That has to be addressed this off season. They may need to hire someone to help in that department. Fil is cheap now and has shown progress. They only way I see him dealt is in a package for an upgrade a center. Imo Gorts and JD want this to be the team going into next year

LaF- Zibanejad-Kravtsov/kakko
Panarin- UFA/trade -Kravtsov/kakko
Kreider-Barron/Trade/Chytil- UFA/trade internal fill
Rooney/Blackwell ????

Lindgren-Fox
Miller-Trouba
UFA/trade/ Robertson/Jones- Schneider/ Lundkvist

shesty
Geo/ trade/ UFA

t think this is the bare bones structure they are going for. IMO the 4th line is going to get a complete overhaul. I think they want Barron to grab the 3 C spot if possible. That would alleviate a lot of headaches for them.
As you can see I think the trade bait on the way out is Buch, Strome, maybe Chytil, one of Lundkvist or Schneider, maybe one of Jones or Robertson. This plus maybe their first this year will be the ammo left to fill the rest of the roster.
I think they wait on A decision for Zibby until at least next trade deadline. They want 1 more year of a heathy Zibby before they commit to a major high dollar/ term deal or whether they move him.
Guys like Goodrow, Laughton, Hartman etc I think will be targeted depending on cost. I know the last 2 guys have signed just using them as an example. It’s obvious, to me at least that the rangers are going to move out some high end talent for a more abrasive game maybe with a little less scoring talent. that and upgrading the center position are the 2 most vulnerable areas of this team. Good news is, the players we need are easier to acquire then the super high talented guys. We also have tons of great trade capital.
I also think Georgiev days are numbered. He’s a decent enough back up, but makes too much money for what he brings. That cash could be better allocated somewhere else.
Guys I would target
Goodrow- depending on price UFA Tampa
Jon Beecher -Boston
Calle Jarnkrok- Nashville
Derek Ryan- depending on price UFA. Flames
Trent Frederic- Boston ( less likely he moves now though)
Peyton Krebs-Vegas
We need scrappy guys that can play. We need to identify them and trade for them. Just so everyone doesn’t pile on and say I wants goons or moar tuffness nonsense. We need some players with balls who throw their weight around and do the little things teams need to win
 
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Off Sides said:
Chytil is the only center that has any forechecking, cycling ability.

He's not very good defensively though.
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Chytil is an improved version of Gauthier. Not sure he has the talent to be a strong two way C even later in his career. Chytil does his best work in the offensive zone but like today, he lost the puck twice cheaply at the offensive blue line, his playmaking overall is not strong. If all the pieces fall in place for him he could become a very good one, but that feels like a long shot.
 
jay from jersey said:
I think they like him. Whole team blows on face offs. That has to be addressed this off season. They may need to hire someone to help in that department. Fil is cheap now and has shown progress. They only way I see him dealt is in a package for an upgrade a center. Imo Gorts and JD want this to be the team going into next year
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Depends on what they want to build. Kakko and Chytil can somewhat cycle right now. They are actually not bad along the boards. Yet if they are looking for a transition team, those two may not be the best choices.

Yet at some point they need to work with what they have or trade it for what they want.

Strome is not a forechecker, board, or cycle player. Yet he has some transition and rush play making in his game.

Zbad similarly, yet he does at times commit to winning some battles. He as well at times comes back and picks up the right read defensively.

I usually have some opinion on what I think they should do, I am sort of at a loss. They as a team are not really good at any particular good trait.

Some of that is coaching, yet the roster too, and management as well needs to figure out a path towards something.
 
jay from jersey said:
I think they like him. Whole team blows on face offs. That has to be addressed this off season. They may need to hire someone to help in that department. Fil is cheap now and has shown progress. They only way I see him dealt is in a package for an upgrade a center. Imo Gorts and JD want this to be the team going into next year

LaF- Zibanejad-Kravtsov/kakko
Panarin- UFA/trade -Kravtsov/kakko
Kreider-Barron/Trade/Chytil- UFA/trade internal fill
Rooney/Blackwell ????

Lindgren-Fox
Miller-Trouba
UFA/trade/ Robertson/Jones- Schneider/ Lundkvist

shesty
Geo/ trade/ UFA

t think this is the bare bones structure they are going for. IMO the 4th line is going to get a complete overhaul. I think they want Barron to grab the 3 C spot it possible. That would alleviate a lot of headaches for them.
As you can see I think the trade bait on the way out is Buch, Strome, maybe Chytil, one of Lundkvist or Schneider, maybe one of Jones or Robertson. This plus maybe their first this year will be the ammo left to fill the rest of the roster.
I think they wait on A decision for Zibby until at least next trade deadline.
IMO they want to see him healthy with almost another full season at his back before they commit to either a long term deal or to trade him
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ugh sorry I hit reply instead of edit
 
duhmetreE said:
I'd make nearly everyone available in attempts to 'fix' the roster balance. Buch and Strome are likely gone. Chytil is dumb but our best skating 'Center', might work best with Panarin.

I'd overpay for Lundell to replace Strome. I'd really love Toews
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I’ve been impressed with Strome actually. He seems to have some fight in him. More than many others. And I was in the trade-Strome camp forever. Now I’m fine with him staying as long as it’s not a bank-breaking contract.
 
egelband said:
I’ve been impressed with Strome actually. He seems to have some fight in him. More than many others. And I was in the trade-Strome camp forever. Now I’m fine with him staying as long as it’s not a bank-breaking contract.
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Really? Strome to me embodies everything I don't want. Not trying to say I know anything, but I don't like his game.
 
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