Speculation: Roster Building Thread II (2022-23): The Puck is Prepared to be Mounted

[B17 Apricots]

At what point does this become a massive problem with Chytil?

Are we just hoping he grows out of it

Seems like it's becoming a habit...

 

[KirkAlbuquerque]

Something to remember…a few years ago Chytil and Kreider played together (I think Mika was hurt) and they were very productive together. There may be some there there.

been trying to get Chytil and Kreider together for years. The few shifts they accidentally have together look so good but they refuse to try it out

 

[bleedblue94]

Kreider actually excelled with strome when panarin was dealing with the Putin stuff. I never understood why they didn't let them play together once panarin got back. Strome was more assertive with the puck and Kreider just played well. In some ways strome was more frustrating than anyone else bc offensively he would mesh with virtually anyone. He we as just so soft and poor defensively that it made in your eyes bleed. And the empty net misses, oh those hurt...

 

[jerseyjinx94]

There’s a lot of work to do, the team is still in disarray IMO. However, the Trouba comments following the Blackhawks loss and the way the team rallied in the third period is a good sign. Let’s see if they can build on it and start dictating play with some passion.

For all the hate Trouba gets, that interview could be the turning point of the season. It’s up to them whether it is or whether they wasted a season of this core.

 

[Ned Braden]

Laf-zib-kakko
Panarin-trocheck-krav
Kreider-chytil-gaut
Blais-goody-vesey

Run that lineup out once chytil is healthy again and don’t change it till the deadline

After the trade deadline:

Laf-Zib-Kakko
Kreider-Troch-Kane
Blais-Chytil-Gaut
Motte-Goody-Vessey

Pretty obvious who I'm trading for Kane here, but for those who struggle with that sort of thing, it's Bread and Krav. And yeah I know Bead has a no trade, but he's the worst 5v5 player on the team, and lately sucks on the PP. Find a way. Most of his points come from giving the puck to Fox and watching Fox do something great with it. Rangers have other options for that particular skill.

Chicago gets a prospect in Krav and they can still flip Bread for draft picks.

Keep Kane around or don't after this year. You have the space now, and let's face it, he's better than Bread for less money if you want to keep him.

The Blais hate here is really weird to me. He and Gaut have arguably been the two best 5v5 players on the team no matter what center they've drew the assignment. They DESERVE a shot on the third line. And this particular one with Chytil would be a straight line nightmare for teams.

Doesn't have to be Motte on the fourth. Just somebody like him...or Brod is fine too.

 

[QJL]

After the trade deadline:

Laf-Zib-Kakko
Kreider-Troch-Kane
Blais-Chytil-Gaut
Motte-Goody-Vessey

Pretty obvious who I'm trading for Kane here, but for those who struggle with that sort of thing, it's Bread and Krav. And yeah I know Bead has a no trade, but he's the worst 5v5 player on the team, and lately sucks on the PP. Find a way. Most of his points come from giving the puck to Fox and watching Fox do something great with it. Rangers have other options for that particular skill.

Chicago gets a prospect in Krav and they can still flip Bread for draft picks.

Keep Kane around or don't after this year. You have the space now, and let's face it, he's better than Bread for less money if you want to keep him.

The Blais hate here is really weird to me. He and Gaut have arguably been the two best 5v5 players on the team no matter what center they've drew the assignment. They DESERVE a shot on the third line. And this particular one with Chytil would be a straight line nightmare for teams.

Doesn't have to be Motte on the fourth. Just somebody like him...or Brod is fine too.

Lol, “find a way”. That’s not how this works. The chances of Panarin accepting a trade to the current version of Chicago are less than zero. I will tattoo Chris Drury’s name on my forehead if Panarin and Kravtsov go to Chicago for Kane.

 

[Amazing Kreiderman]

Tyler Motte has 0g, 0a, 0p, -5 in his last 10 games.

Who the f*** cares about Tyler Motte. I must be stroking out right now.

Tyler Motte is still miles better than Sammy Blais. Even if Motte doesn't register a single point, he's valuable on the PK. Blais does nothing.

 

[Shesterkybomb]

I like Motte and i wouldnt mind him back but i dont know why people are so intent on getting him back. The 4th line isnt an issue.

 

[haohmaru]

Tyler Motte is still miles better than Sammy Blais. Even if Motte doesn't register a single point, he's valuable on the PK. Blais does nothing.

I liked Motte, but I agree with others - the 4th line and the PK hasn't really been an issue and Blais is improving week to week - he'll be a force on that 4th line come spring time.

 

[Shesterkybomb]

I liked Motte, but I agree with others - the 4th line and the PK hasn't really been an issue and Blais is improving week to week - he'll be a force on that 4th line come spring time.

And if he gets hurt Brodzinski or Carpenter can play there. As long as Gauthier and Goodrow are there the 4th line shouldn't be an issue. If I'm adding something its a LD for Schneider to play with.

 

[mas0764]

I still remember when people were campaigning for Blais as a top six caliber support player, good times, lol.

 

[savebyrichter94]

Listening to Vince’s pod this morning, sure sounds like Gallant is definitely on the hot seat at the moment, mentioned that there is definitely interest in Trotz if things get to that point

 

[Bacon Artemi Bravo]

I still remember when people were campaigning for Blais as a top six caliber support player, good times, lol.

I think he showed flashes of having that kind of talent early last season before he got hurt. Haven’t seen it since.

 

[Oscar Lindberg]

Listening to Vince’s pod this morning, sure sounds like Gallant is definitely on the hot seat at the moment, mentioned that there is definitely interest in Trotz if things get to that point

Didn’t Friedman say that Trotz isn’t happening

I don’t think Vince is plugged in like that, will trust Friedman over him

 

[CLW]

Didn’t Friedman say that Trotz isn’t happening

I don’t think Vince is plugged in like that, will trust Friedman over him

I don't think Trotz is a fit for our freewheeling stars in any case. Trotz is a stickler for details, many of our NMC guys are simply not a fit for that kind of hockey.

 

[Amazing Kreiderman]

I liked Motte, but I agree with others - the 4th line and the PK hasn't really been an issue and Blais is improving week to week - he'll be a force on that 4th line come spring time.

I will settle for Blais being serviceable first. Baby steps.

 

[GAGLine]

I don't think Trotz is a fit for our freewheeling stars in any case. Trotz is a stickler for details, many of our NMC guys are simply not a fit for that kind of hockey.

Were guys like OV and Backstrom when Trotz went to Washington? How did that turn out?

 

[Beer League Sniper]

It's pretty sad we don't have anyone in Hartford who's better than carpenter. The guy stinks.

Rydahl, to my eyes, looked like a better option in preseason. We're very thin at the C position, organizationally, so I think Drury is scared Carpenter won't make it through waivers. Rydahl is waiver-exempt, so he can be sent up and down at will. However, I think the desire to accumulate a bit of cap space for the deadline is stopping them from calling anyone up.

 

[CLW]

Were guys like OV and Backstrom when Trotz went to Washington? How did that turn out?

So Ovi is a generational exception, how does that not underline my point even more? Trotz gave up on forcing his system on this one guy and his setup guy after it was clear he just wasn't made for it.

Which players on this Ranger roster do you think would thrive under Trotz?

 

[Shesterkybomb]

Swap coaches all you want but they all get their marching orders from the same guys. Nothing changes here with coaches. Imo the guy with the cigar has to go.

 

[GAGLine]

So Ovi is a generational exception, how does that not underline my point even more? Trotz gave up on forcing his system on this one guy and his setup guy after it was clear he just wasn't made for it.

Which players on this Ranger roster do you think would thrive under Trotz?

Everyone except Panarin, probably.

 

[Kodiak]

Did Chytil travel with the team on the road trip or stay in NY?

 

[tbassler]

Did Chytil travel with the team on the road trip or stay in NY?

I heard that he traveled with the team

 

[GoAwayPanarin]

So Ovi is a generational exception, how does that not underline my point even more? Trotz gave up on forcing his system on this one guy and his setup guy after it was clear he just wasn't made for it.

Which players on this Ranger roster do you think would thrive under Trotz?

The entire defense and Shesterkin. Miller in particular would murder it in Trotz's system as he's basically Barry's wet dream.

Trotz is smart enough where if he has a superstar player, he will leave them alone to do their own thing. Has nothing to do with them not being made for a system and everything to do with him not being an idiot. The only player on this team who is like that and also borderline uncoachable is Panarin so that won't really change.

Does that mean that he is a good fit here overall? Not necessarily, but I think you over estimate how much of this roster is free wheeling as you put it. It's really just Panarin. Mika can play good 2 way hockey when he wants to and under Trotz he wouldn't have a choice.

 

[duhmetreE]

The entire defense and Shesterkin. Miller in particular would murder it in Trotz's system as he's basically Barry's wet dream.

Trotz is smart enough where if he has a superstar player, he will leave them alone to do their own thing. Has nothing to do with them not being made for a system and everything to do with him not being an idiot. The only player on this team who is like that and also borderline uncoachable is Panarin so that won't really change.

Does that mean that he is a good fit here overall? Not necessarily, but I think you over estimate how much of this roster is free wheeling as you put it. It's really just Panarin. Mika can play good 2 way hockey when he wants to and under Trotz he wouldn't have a choice.

Revisionist garble

Didn't seem to be an issue with Torts and he earned the highest praise from him. The problem is there is no system or guidelines to adhere to.