Crease
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I feel like any discussion of a roster without Trouba, Goodrow, Kreider or Panarin should assume a piece of their cap hit is still around.
Speculation: Roster Building Thread II (2022-23): The Puck is Prepared to be Mounted
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Horvat for Zac Jones + 2nd would be quite a deal, if it really is a buyers market and Vancouver is scared of botching their deals, reminiscent of last TDL
Kreider Zib Kakko
Panarin Trocheck Kravstov
Laf Chytil Horvat
Horvat can take faceoffs
Kreider Zib Kakko
Panarin Trocheck Kravstov
Laf Chytil Horvat
Horvat can take faceoffs
Like the idea of a guy like Watson and Erne but Vessey as your top line winger and that second line has no chemistry. Why do we insist on always putting them as a line.
SA16
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Horvat is not good defensively and I am not sure why he happens to have that reputation. It's also a terrible time to trade for him when his value is massively inflated because he's having a career year (shooting 24%)
Paulie Walnutz
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I can see Horvat going to either Seattle or Minnesota. They both need centers. Dennis Bernstein was saying on NHL radio tonight that the trade deadline is going to be interesting because nobody has any cap space. He said we might not see a lot of trades for that reason and there’s still so many teams in the mix that we might not see a lot of teams selling.
Motte is much less physical and much more injury prone than goodrow. Crazy to basically start a post with - I understand you guys don’t know as much about this as I do - and ignore those points.
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When I compare what the rangers picked up at the deadline last year, and what is hope for them to get this year, I think vatrano on the 3rd line and a better version of Braun would really improve this team.
Vatrano obviously outperformed what you expect out of a guy you get for a late round pick, but that would set up a 4th line with goodrow, vesey, and 1 of the 7 defensive minded 5th line centers we have to be a strong shutdown line.
Also depends on how Kravtsov is doing on the breadline, but I think he’s going to at least be good enough for the 3rd line w chytil and Laf.
Anyone think Nyquist on Columbus could be a good fit?
Vatrano obviously outperformed what you expect out of a guy you get for a late round pick, but that would set up a 4th line with goodrow, vesey, and 1 of the 7 defensive minded 5th line centers we have to be a strong shutdown line.
Also depends on how Kravtsov is doing on the breadline, but I think he’s going to at least be good enough for the 3rd line w chytil and Laf.
Anyone think Nyquist on Columbus could be a good fit?
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Goodrow was acquired as a playoff team piece. He’s a winner. Why does anyone think management is looking to get rid of him now that we are a team that can actually make some noise in the playoffs?
And if they do trade him, out of necessity, I doubt it’s to a non playoff team. It will be more likely a contender would want him. IMO, of course. Thing is most contenders don’t have much cap.
And Motte frankly is not in the same category as Goodrow. He is nowhere near a replacement for what Goodrow brings. I do not understand this wild infatuation with Motte.
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Shesterkybomb
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Schneider looked kinda average in Hartford too.....everyone does.
An aging past his prime injured player.....sounds like someone we would target
HFsNumber1Heel
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I'm really hoping that I'm right about Edstrom being physically ready...not because of ego, not because of an ELC, but so we can all get over Motte.
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I refuse to believe there’s not not options
Everyone just keeps looking at the obvious sellers but it should open up a the end of February
Definitely need a LD. It’s almost like they are waiting to waive Hajek . Harpur has played a ton in a row and is just kinda there. Not good or bad just not what I wave to see with Schneider come playoffs
Suter, Erne, Sundkvist are rental depth F options on detroit
I’d bet they take Blais back if Rangers needed to move Salary back
Maata on D is a vet rental too
I’d bet they take Blais back if Rangers needed to move Salary back
Maata on D is a vet rental too
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Yeah but Schneider got out. In less time. Robertson hasn’t
There aren't many options in the restricted free agent market. A team trades for a player who will be a group II this summer. The team can acquire the player and not qualify the player this summer.
Denis Gurianov has struggled in Dallas. $2.9M cap hit. The Stars don't have much flexibility. Dallas could find a taker for Gurianov and use his money to acquire another player. The Rangers acquired Vatrano from Florida for a 4th round pick. Florida added Giroux and Chiarot. They need to clear Vatrano's $2,533,333.
Elliotte Friedman and Jeff Marek mentioned Christian Fischer yesterday. His arbitration number is an issue. A team doesn't have to qualify him. Fischer hasn’t done much in his career so far.
Maxime Comtois is having another bad season.
Jusso Valimaki is a group II this summer.
It's a bad trade market because there aren’t many players worth trading for. The rental market stinks. These were big names ten years ago. Kane. Toews. ROR. Tarasenko. JVR. It's 2023 and those players are basically toast right now. The rental D market stinks. Kulikov. Maataa. Holden. Garrikov is a good player but he isn’t worth a 1st round pick or a top young roster player or prospect. The Rangers can't add money for next season and most of those players are overpriced like Boeser.
Denis Gurianov has struggled in Dallas. $2.9M cap hit. The Stars don't have much flexibility. Dallas could find a taker for Gurianov and use his money to acquire another player. The Rangers acquired Vatrano from Florida for a 4th round pick. Florida added Giroux and Chiarot. They need to clear Vatrano's $2,533,333.
Elliotte Friedman and Jeff Marek mentioned Christian Fischer yesterday. His arbitration number is an issue. A team doesn't have to qualify him. Fischer hasn’t done much in his career so far.
Maxime Comtois is having another bad season.
Jusso Valimaki is a group II this summer.
It's a bad trade market because there aren’t many players worth trading for. The rental market stinks. These were big names ten years ago. Kane. Toews. ROR. Tarasenko. JVR. It's 2023 and those players are basically toast right now. The rental D market stinks. Kulikov. Maataa. Holden. Garrikov is a good player but he isn’t worth a 1st round pick or a top young roster player or prospect. The Rangers can't add money for next season and most of those players are overpriced like Boeser.
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The move is Blais, Hajek and a pick to Ottawa for Motte and Holden.
2 players the Rangers are familiar with and fill a need. Motte adds speed, pk and aggressive play to the 4th line. Holden is a steady, cheap, veteran LHD.
I don't know what all this talk is about Goodrow, but he won't be traded. He is objectively better than Motte, but it's not Goodrow vs Motte. It's Blais and Brod vs Motte. Motte wins that.
2 players the Rangers are familiar with and fill a need. Motte adds speed, pk and aggressive play to the 4th line. Holden is a steady, cheap, veteran LHD.
I don't know what all this talk is about Goodrow, but he won't be traded. He is objectively better than Motte, but it's not Goodrow vs Motte. It's Blais and Brod vs Motte. Motte wins that.
haohmaru
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If Goodrow is traded it'll be because of the upcoming cap implications. There's certainly a case to be made for moving him for the sake of signing KAM to a longer deal.
Tarasenko ain’t toast. He was the Blues top player last season and he’s been one of their top-4 this season.
I was going to say the same. I don’t know what all the other metrics look like, but he is still scoring at a decent clip.
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Currently out with a broken hand. Seems to get injured a lot, and isn't exactly a superstar come playoff time, probably wouldn't be at the top of my list of players to trade for.
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