Speculation: Roster Building Thread I (2021 Offseason) - And so it begins...

[bleedblue94]

We actually did throw a ton of money at Brad Richards who also was a center, top 10 in league scoring, had won the Conn Smyth and so forth and so forth.

When you go out and get a really big name like this, it just has to be the perfect name. And honestly, Jack Eichel isn’t even close. He is the type of gives you a few goals most other teams can’t score, but he doesn’t match up well against the perfection line, against Barzal, against Aho, and so forth.

I think it's fair to argue that when panarin was signed he was not the perfect name for the needs of the team and people cringed at the aav. Don't hear that now...

 

[Rangerboy030]

He pulled this list out of his ass.

Any by God it stinks!

 

[Kovalev27]

I’ll say it again but I rather not make any big changes other than adding some veterans to the bottom 6. I want to see this core with a REAL coach before I move a Chytil or even a Strome.

I’m starting to worry that Quinn hasn’t been fired yet.

 

[NYblades]

There's no vacuum sure but playing the odds on it it's way more likely to happen than to not. The idea is he is going to decline because he's thrown his body around the league for years and he's outside of his prime playing days. Not rolling the dice on a multi-year contract for that, sorry.

The wear and tear on a player of the years starts to add up for sure.

 

[OriginalLimbo]

Also, draft sim season is now upon us...

View attachment 432595

Wow, LA and NYR! What is that like a 1 in 500 pull there?

 

[haveandare]

I’ll say it again but I rather not make any big changes other than adding some veterans to the bottom 6. I want to see this core with a REAL coach before I move a Chytil or even a Strome.

I’m starting to worry that Quinn hasn’t been fired yet.

Me too a bit but if the thing was wait and see until after exit interviews, it not happening the same day as them isn’t really weird

 

[rangers1314]

Wow, LA and NYR! What is that like a 1 in 500 pull there?

Yeah so what pick are we looking at? Odds are 16?

 

[Oscar Lindberg]

Yeah so what pick are we looking at? Odds are 16?

I believe it will be 15 as Arizona lost their pick but yeah close enough lol

 

[rangersfansince08]

Sam Reinhart-- think Sabres fans said he played C towards the end of the season and looked good. Is he an option? took more face-off this year than any other year and was 46%

 

[rangers1314]

I asked this last night so forgive me for doing so again, but is Drury set to meet the media today?

 

[Dr. Ogrodnick]

I’ll say it again but I rather not make any big changes other than adding some veterans to the bottom 6. I want to see this core with a REAL coach before I move a Chytil or even a Strome.

I’m starting to worry that Quinn hasn’t been fired yet.

Ehh, if Quinn is still here thurs-friday, its time to worry.

It's also possible the Rangers are waiting to see if somebody specific becomes available before they fire Quinn, not that I support that.

 

[rangersfansince08]

The top rising candidates for NHL coach, GM jobs

Interesting article on what's out there.

 

[NYR Viper]

I'll say this, in an ideal world I'm going:

Chytil + Jones + Howden + Georgiev + NYR 1st '22 for Eichel

Zibanejad for Krebs + Reaves + LV 2nd '22

Buch + Hajek for Holloway + Khaira + EDM 2nd '22

Signings:
Bonino
Oleksiak


That leaves us with:

Kreider-Eichel-Kaako
Panarin-Strome-Kravtsov
Lafreniere-Bonino-Gauthier
Khaira-Rooney-Reaves

Lindgren-Fox
Miller-Trouba
Oleksiak-Lundqvist

Barron is first call-up
Krebs in AHL

 

[rangers1314]

The top rising candidates for NHL coach, GM jobs

Interesting article on what's out there.

Nate Leaman is apparently a name to watch with Arizona.

 

[rangers1314]

Surprised that we haven't started to hear some names floated around for AGM & Hartford GM.

 

[Sayba]

I would have liked Adam Lowry but he is signed now.

We had a harder to play against guy in Miller and traded him.

It's really tough to find these guys, give the Islanders credit for trading for Pageau.

We might just have to role with what we have, strengthen the 4th line, add another veteran defenseman and take another shot at it.

 

[LORDE]

According to Gary Lawless (VGK broadcast tonight), these are names he's heard as filling current/potential coaching vacancies around the league:

He said while Quinn hasn't been fired by the Rangers, the rumour mill is hot that something might happen.

"Rumor mill is hot" because our lunatic owner canned the Press and GM with 3 games to play from a team that has one of the top 2 prospect pools in the league after having the worst one in the league 4 yrs ago lol

 

[Bruner4329]

I would have liked Adam Lowry but he is signed now.

We had a harder to play against guy in Miller and traded him.

It's really tough to find these guys, give the Islanders credit for trading for Pageau.

We might just have to role with what we have, strengthen the 4th line, add another veteran defenseman and take another shot at it.

Being stuck in mud is not the answer. There have been some bright spots the last 2 years but there have also been instances that show the glaring holes. Last year's playin and the last few weeks of this season shows this team needs to add some parts to compete with the big boys. It would be indefensible if management continues to ignore these holes.

 

[Ruggs225]

If we won the draft lottery we would only more up like 10 spots right?

i cant remember the new rules

 

[NYR Viper]

I think if you can find a couple of trend-setters as well as the young players gaining another year of experience, that is a good step forward. I really like the idea of Oleksiak and adding a couple of guys like Khaira, Reaves, Coleman, Goodrow. Another guy who may be available via trade is Zadorov. He is a RFA and would look good on the 3rd pairing or 2nd pairing at times for the next 2-3 years.

Zach Hyman is an interesting one. He can play all over the line-up and wins board battles like it's his job. Plays both wings.

Nick Foligno would be perfect for his versatility but I'm concerned about the length of his next deal. He's 33 now and with the way he plays, I don't see him aging well.

 

[TheDirtyH]

Coleman's played 300 NHL games in the regular season, he didn't even break into the league until he was 25-26. I don't see 30 as the magic line where he'll start sucking or that he'll be past his prime. He's really only just entered his prime, gotten better every year, and he's not the tier of player that you're signing for 4+ years anyway.

I understand we all want to cling to the 'youngest team in the league' thing for when we inevitably play like garbage sometimes, but I'm with @Machinehead in thinking Coleman would be a perfect signing, and I'd spring for an extra million or a third year on a contract (or both) to do it.

 

[rangersfansince08]

Coleman or Hyman would be good gets.

 

[DutchShamrock]

Mutiny in Buffalo. Risto and Reinhart basically asking out. Eichel has to be moved after those comments but no one is paying a premium after the list of injuries was advertised and Jack gave some pretty damaging statements.

The best course of action usually is hold Eichel and let him play his value back up, but then you are in season where trading $10m is near impossible and said player is about to get a No Move.

We are not exactly the best trade partners for Buffalo if you think about it. Mika will just walk in a year if you even get past his own no move. If I'm Buch, I sign my QO and walk next season. Lundkvist can sign in Sweden or the KHL and be a free agent next season. Strome will drop in value on that squad and I like him. Kreider has a NMC.

We have the assets but we have to send salary back. The players with salaries don't fit the jig saw. And why would we offer any of our top 6-8 prospects? Chytil, Buch, Jones and the 1st is feeling steep given the scenario.

 

[Leetch3]

Coleman's played 300 NHL games in the regular season, he didn't even break into the league until he was 25-26. I don't see 30 as the magic line where he'll start sucking or that he'll be past his prime. He's really only just entered his prime, gotten better every year, and he's not the tier of player that you're signing for 4+ years anyway.

I understand we all want to cling to the 'youngest team in the league' thing for when we inevitably play like garbage sometimes, but I'm with @Machinehead in thinking Coleman would be a perfect signing, and I'd spring for an extra million or a third year on a contract (or both) to do it.

good points...and term is the key. there is no problem with adding older players if the length of the deal is right.

and this team badly needs veteran leadership and guys who have been thru the playoff wars and know how to win to help teach the kids...

 

[Savant]

I’d look to the bottom six as a place to improve the toughness rather than overpay someone to do it in the top six. The Rangers are too top heavy anyway. That’s where the lineup openings will be. Can fill many holes