Speculation: Roster Building/Rumor Thread XVIII

[egelband]

This seems a bit optimistic. Considering their past production, I would be ecstatic to see them break 50 points this season. That would be an astronomical step forward for either player.

I’d say 50 points might be possible from Lafreniere. 40 from Kakko and 30 from VK and we’re doing very well.

 

[LaffyTaffyNYR]

I wouldn't count the Rangers out either (if they want him over Zibanejad due to age and 5 years opposed to 6-8). You dont give your best offer first either, but we'll see what happens.. I used to be pretty confident it would be like Nash sooner or later it would happen, but now I'm about 35%

 

[jay from jersey]

Then Friedman also added that we've been "out" on Eicher for over a week. We shed Buchnevich after being out. And we have been shopping Strome. So all signs point to adding a center. I suspect Danault.

I really hope not. That means they are going full steam ahead with resigning Zibby to a ludacris deal. Danault is a good player, but he’s going to be very overplayed. DVO, has a much better skillset/ potential for offense to be our 2C.
I hope Drury plays the field, DVOs contract is cheap for 4 more seasons, maybe he makes a run at Couterier at the end of the season??

 

[LaffyTaffyNYR]

I think at this point the smart play would be just to hold onto Strome until the TDL, someone might shake loose that we dont expect to be a 2C and you can then make the trade and either move Strome if not in it, or move him to a wing spot if they are in it. I know people want Strome gone so that Chytil can get a bigger chance (and I'd be ok with that too)

 

[egelband]

what are we getting for Strome? Why not keep Laf at his natural position? No room for Gauthier?

Please give Gauthier a chance in the top six. A legit chance. 10-12 games at least. I think he can be effective.

To me, he seems more motivated by getting to the net or to scoring spots than he is to chasing down the puck.just my opinion.

 

[LaffyTaffyNYR]

I really hope not. That means they are going full steam ahead with resigning Zibby to a ludacris deal. Danault is a good player, but he’s going to be very overplayed. DVO, has a much better skillset/ potential for offense to be our 2C.
I hope Drury plays the field, DVOs contract is cheap for 4 more seasons, maybe he makes a run at Couterier at the end of the season??

I mean Danault does fit the kind of players Drury seems to be targeting (while relying on the kids and Panarin/Zib for the offensive skill going forward)

 

[GoAwayPanarin]

On Eichel the “Venn diagram being two circles” really screams an unbridgeable gap to me, I’m sure other teams are closer...for that reason I do think the NYR are out. But if Adams is really set on moving Eichel in the next day and a half, who knows what might change.

Today’s article in the Athletic would definitely indicate that Wed at noon is the deadline. Though this story could be 100% coming from Eichel’s camp:

It’s the first time I’ve heard actual names walled off. Maybe that’s because they are out, but to me it seemed to be a bit more than that.
We’ll see come Wednesday. Minnesota would be the best case scenario because it would make for some hilarity if he misses next season and they’ll have to do some voodoo to put a team around him for 3 of his 4 years there.

 

[jay from jersey]

I mean Danault does fit the kind of players Drury seems to be targeting (while relying on the kids and Panarin/Zib for the offensive skill going forward)

The contract he wants is the biggest problem I have with him. Plus he openly stated, he’s leaving his hometown in Montreal because he basically wants a guarantee to be a top 2C. I have a feeling if chytil is still here, he passes him on the depth chart in a year or 2 max

 

[LokiDog]

Danault’s ask has repeatedly been reported as 5.5M. His 5v5 production is better than virtually all of the alternatives brought up. His raw points per game is better than Dvorak’s. His defense, faceoffs, etc. are far better than all the alternatives. This narrative of him as a glorified 3C is amusing and in two years when he’s somewhere else playing a full-time top six role with PP time, will be completely forgotten. He was UTILIZED as a shutdown center with mediocre wingers and no PP time. His actual raw production numbers still out pace most centers. All that has lacked was opportunity/usage.

 

[jay from jersey]

Please give Gauthier a chance in the top six. A legit chance. 10-12 games at least. I think he can be effective.

Only going to happen if he’s an injury fill in. Even with Buch gone, the addition of Blais and Goodrow just make it harder for him

 

[RGY]

 

[rangers1314]

 

[LaffyTaffyNYR]

Danault’s ask has repeatedly been reported as 5.5M. His 5v5 production is better than virtually all of the alternatives brought up. His raw points per game is better than Dvorak’s. His defense, faceoffs, etc. are far better than all the alternatives. This narrative of him as a glorified 3C is amusing and in two years when he’s somewhere else playing a full-time top six role with PP time, will be completely forgotten. He was UTILIZED as a shutdown center with mediocre wingers and no PP time. His actual raw production numbers still out pace most centers. All that has lacked was opportunity/usage.

I saw 6+ for 7 years..

 

[LokiDog]

I saw 6+ for 7 years..

I haven’t seen that anywhere. I’ve seen 6x5.5 in multiple places and a rumor Seattle had signed him at 8x5.8.

 

[Brooklyn Rangers Fan]

Please give Gauthier a chance in the top six. A legit chance. 10-12 games at least. I think he can be effective.

I’m a Gauthier fan and I think this would be a mistake.

Quinn was molding him into using his physical gifts to play more of a third line role (and he was progressing well poor to being strained to the bench). I think you want him competing for one of the bottom six RW spots and telling him to model his game after Goodrow’s.

 

[jay from jersey]

Danault’s ask has repeatedly been reported as 5.5M. His 5v5 production is better than virtually all of the alternatives brought up. His raw points per game is better than Dvorak’s. His defense, faceoffs, etc. are far better than all the alternatives. This narrative of him as a glorified 3C is amusing and in two years when he’s somewhere else playing a full-time top six role with PP time, will be completely forgotten. He was UTILIZED as a shutdown center with mediocre wingers and no PP time. His actual raw production numbers still out pace most centers. All that has lacked was opportunity/usage.

He also plays on a far better team. With far better wingers, in a far better system. Dvorak paced 25-27 goals last season. With a little help, he would have no problem being a 30 goal center. At this point in time, Danualt is better then him defensively. But Danault is also older. And going to be more expensive for longer. He turned down 5 mill for 6 years for MTL. I highly doubt he settles at 5.5 a year. But even so, I’m not ready to had him 2C duties for 5-6 seasons.
DVO between panarin-Kravtsov/ Blais is more then likely a 30/30 center at 25 years old

 

[LokiDog]

He also plays on a far better team. With far better wingers, in a far better system. Dvorak paced 25-27 goals last season. With a little help, he would have no problem being a 30 goal center. At this point in time, Danualt is better then him defensively. But Danault is also older. And going to be more expensive for longer. He turned down 5 mill for 6 years for MTL. I highly doubt he settles at 5.5 a year. But even so, I’m not ready to had him 2C duties for 5-6 seasons

I am. I’m fine with disagreeing with everyone. It’s clear I’m one of very few interested in him. He’s not young enough to have exciting “potential” and he’s not high scoring enough to induce shiny new toy syndrome. And I’m fine with everyone thinking I’m crazy, but for my money, he’s a perfect fit and if we end up with him, I’ll be quite interested to see if I’m eating crow next year or point to a 60pt Selke caliber season. Also Montreal and Arizona had the same number of wins last year, MTL finished with 4 more points in the form of loser points.

 

[jay from jersey]

I haven’t seen that anywhere. I’ve seen 6x5.5 in multiple places and a rumor Seattle had signed him at 8x5.8.

I doubt 5.5 I’ve also heard he wants at least 6 for 6-7 seasons

 

[Payote75]

If your Seattle how do you turn down a Strome and Chytll for Gourde maybe a pick? They drafted no offense really.

If you have Zib Danault and Gourde down the middle you don't need an Eichel type.
You just keep attacking swarming line after line. Let's add Coleman and do this!!!

We get to keep our assets they actually get to play and have a couple to move down the line if need be.

And we can tell buffalo to eff off!!!

 

[I Eat Crow]

It boggles my mind that Dillon keeps getting good contracts and trade returns. He's not very good.

 

[Paulie Walnutz]

Dillon must be thrilled. Signs an extension and gets traded a year later.

 

[jay from jersey]

If your Seattle how do you turn down a Strome and Chytll for Gourde maybe a pick? They drafted no offense really.

If you have Zib Danault and Gourde down the middle you don't need an Eichel type.
You just keep attacking swarming line after line. Let's add Coleman and do this!!!

We get to keep our assets they actually get to play and have a couple to move down the line if need be.

And we can tell buffalo to eff off!!!

I am. I’m fine with disagreeing with everyone. It’s clear I’m one of very few interested in him. He’s not young enough to have exciting “potential” and he’s not high scoring enough to induce shiny new toy syndrome. And I’m fine with everyone thinking I’m crazy, but for my money, he’s a perfect fit and if we end up with him, I’ll be quite interested to see if I’m eating crow next year or point to a 60pt Selke caliber season. Also Montreal and Arizona had the same number of wins last year, MTL finished with 4 more points in the form of loser points.

It’s possible. It’s also quite a big commitment and a lot of cash tied up making him and Zibby the rangers 1-2 punch for the next 6-7 seasons at their age

 

[Bluto]

Would Getzlaf be a good center option? If we dump strome he could slot in as the 2c until chytil takes his job.

 

[Thirty One]

Dillon must be thrilled. Signs an extension and gets traded a year later.

Everyone wants to play in Winnipeg though.

 

[egelband]

I’m a Gauthier fan and I think this would be a mistake.

Quinn was molding him into using his physical gifts to play more of a third line role (and he was progressing well poor to being strained to the bench). I think you want him competing for one of the bottom six RW spots and telling him to model his game after Goodrow’s.

I can live with him on the third line. But I think he’s more well-suited to being a nice complement to either Zibanejad or Panarin.