Gauthier is not going to play 4th line. He’s need a very good camp just to be the extra FWD imo
Speculation: Roster Building/Rumor Thread XVIII
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PuckLuck3043
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No. We are going to be sorry if we do.
Let’s see what happens Wednesday-Saturday. Let’s see what free agency brings.
But so far this team will indeed be tougher team to play against. More of a pain in the ass. I am not thrilled with the Buchnevich return (thought he should have returned a 1st round pick and one of Thomas/Kyrou, but he didnt. And now moving on, Goodrow and Blais in our bottom 6 is starting to shape up as a bottom 6 that will make us a bitch to play against. They are going to work, work, work. They are going to wear the opposition down, especially in home games when Gallant can match them up against opposing top lines to be pests so that the 1st two lines will have more space when they jump over the boards.
I really want Coleman and Bonino/Stepan/Krejci to complete the bottom 6. This team will cover every area of the ice, every inch of the game.
But so far this team will indeed be tougher team to play against. More of a pain in the ass. I am not thrilled with the Buchnevich return (thought he should have returned a 1st round pick and one of Thomas/Kyrou, but he didnt. And now moving on, Goodrow and Blais in our bottom 6 is starting to shape up as a bottom 6 that will make us a bitch to play against. They are going to work, work, work. They are going to wear the opposition down, especially in home games when Gallant can match them up against opposing top lines to be pests so that the 1st two lines will have more space when they jump over the boards.
I really want Coleman and Bonino/Stepan/Krejci to complete the bottom 6. This team will cover every area of the ice, every inch of the game.
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PuckLuck3043
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Moving one of them to the left would be ideal if that could work. I think they are both going to be great.
Richard Banger
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I still would like another veteran center who can handle bottom 6 roles. I see Goodrow as more of a top 9 player so while I would love to see Barron take the reigns I think it would be a good move to add another center who can take the defensive pressure off of Chytil and take Zib off of the penalty kill.
ideally I would like
Kakko-Zib-Laf
Panarin-Chytil-Krav
Kreider-Goodrow-Blais
Rooney/Goat-UFA-Barron
i think it gives all 4 lines some offense with good defensive players on it.
Machinehead
HFNYR MVP
This is a good point about Zib. Playing him less would be wise with his injury history and PK time is an easy place to reduce minutes without sacrificing production.
Richard Banger
Mamba Mentality
Not just his injury but I personally think he was out of gas a lot of time because of his versatility on the team this past year. I think we should stop trying to make him a two way center and let him be the dynamic offensive #1 C he can be.
let the two way center stuff be for the rest of the 3 centers.
Machinehead
HFNYR MVP
If we traded Strome and did nothing else I would run this:
Lafreniere-Zibanejad-Kakko
Panarin-Chytil-Blais
Kreider-Goodrow-Kravtsov
Barron-Rooney-Gauthier
Laf and Kakko legit had chemistry on the kid line. Just give them actual minutes and play them with our top center.
Panarin will love Blais and Chytil can easily be Strome.
That third line would never give up a goal ever, plus Kravtsov is big and skilled so he can keep up with a banger line while also giving them diversity.
Before you cry about "Blais is ahead of Kravtsov" 1) I don't believe in line hierarchy in the top 9 and 2) Kravtsov will be playing special teams while Blais won't.
Late in games with a lead, you could run Kreider-Goodrow-Kakko. Nary a soul would even enter our zone. If you need a goal, flip Blais and Kravtsov late on.
Lafreniere-Zibanejad-Kakko
Panarin-Chytil-Blais
Kreider-Goodrow-Kravtsov
Barron-Rooney-Gauthier
Laf and Kakko legit had chemistry on the kid line. Just give them actual minutes and play them with our top center.
Panarin will love Blais and Chytil can easily be Strome.
That third line would never give up a goal ever, plus Kravtsov is big and skilled so he can keep up with a banger line while also giving them diversity.
Before you cry about "Blais is ahead of Kravtsov" 1) I don't believe in line hierarchy in the top 9 and 2) Kravtsov will be playing special teams while Blais won't.
Late in games with a lead, you could run Kreider-Goodrow-Kakko. Nary a soul would even enter our zone. If you need a goal, flip Blais and Kravtsov late on.
bleedblue94
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Brassard came here as a 3rd line center behind stepan and Richards and initially produced to the same level as he had for six years in Columbus but in his second full season he took a step. He was 26 or 27 at that point I believe. He is not really a comparable for chytil for career breakout progression if you are expecting a chytil to bust out this year.
There are better comparables for chytil than brassard, and if anything bringing up brassard shows that chytil would be fine staying on 3c and earning the 2c spot rather than us handing it to him this year
There are better comparables for chytil than brassard, and if anything bringing up brassard shows that chytil would be fine staying on 3c and earning the 2c spot rather than us handing it to him this year
Machinehead
HFNYR MVP
Crazy idea: let Gauthier kill penalties.
There's this misconception that penalty killers have to be smart or sound defensively but Carl Hagelin says hi.
The PK is like 90% sprinting and running into things. Sounds like Julien Gauthier.
Can’t move Schneider at all atm. Not only is he big, mobile, and brings the nasty. He moves the puck well and his offense isn’t near a finished product. We don’t know how much his output can be at this time. Very unique prospect.
Still scratching my head at why the leafs went with Amirnov over the Schneider to begin with, but their screw up is our gain.
Unless Nils moves to LD, I don’t think his future is long for this team. He’s an excellent prospect with a lot of potential, that’s why teams would be willing to trade a lot of value to us for him.
Fox is going to block him on the PP, and I don’t seen Trouba playing 3rd pair anytime in the next 3 years.
The way I see it either Nils moves over after this season making possibly Miller/Robertson more expendable, or more likely he’s the prized piece in a Eichel/big name center trade.
He’s going to need heavy top 4 all situations minutes and PP time to truly show off his skills and develop, barring a major injury, (knock on wood) I just don’t see it on the rangers Top 4 D on the right side
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gravey9
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I don't see how we can trade Chytil given the market for centers right now and how pricey and long the UFA deals are getting. Zib will cost a lot to keep. Eichel has a huge price tag. Danault will be get greatly overpaid. Having an affordable young C who can possibly became your 2C is incredibly valuable. Especially when there is literally no one behind Chytil in the pipeline who can play top 6 or top 9 at moment. Replacing Chytil with a vet will likely become too costly and will mean the loss of other great talent soon.
bbny
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Can't believe Blais is ahead of Kravtsov. I cry.
Machinehead
HFNYR MVP
Gauthier would be a massive SH goal threat in an environment where the opponent isn't actually playing defense.
That came with him getting top 6 minutes. I wouldn't say that he "earned" the spot either as he only bumped up after they bought out Richards.
He was 27 when that bump came though, so yeah I don't think the situations are really super comparable. Brass was a guy who already had multiple 40+ point seasons under his belt. Chytil has none (even if he was pacing for it this year.)
I wouldn't expect that dramatic kick up in production for Chytil as he won't get PP time for it unless he just becomes a monster producer at ES. With the way things are being handled right now, they're either shaping things up for him to take the reigns on that 2nd line or to use him in a trade. I don't see him centering a line with Blais and Goodrow.
Synergy27
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UAGoalieGuy
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In a pinch, Bonino would be a good stop gap for 2 years as a 3C. Bellamere for the 4th line. Give Chytil a shot as a 2C. Strome for Saucy and 2022 #2.
Laff - Zib - Kakko
Panarin - Chytil - Kravstov
Kreider - Bonino - Goodrow
Blais - Rooney - Bellamere
Barron/Gauthier
PP1:
Panarin - Zib - Kreider (with him parked in front)
Miller - Fox
PP2:
Laff - Chytil - Kakko
Saucy - Lundkvist
PK1:
Rooney - Goodrow
Lindgren - Trouba
PK2:
Bonino - Bellamere
Saucy - Lundkvist
Laff - Zib - Kakko
Panarin - Chytil - Kravstov
Kreider - Bonino - Goodrow
Blais - Rooney - Bellamere
Barron/Gauthier
PP1:
Panarin - Zib - Kreider (with him parked in front)
Miller - Fox
PP2:
Laff - Chytil - Kakko
Saucy - Lundkvist
PK1:
Rooney - Goodrow
Lindgren - Trouba
PK2:
Bonino - Bellamere
Saucy - Lundkvist
Synergy27
F-A-C-G-C-E
This is my lineup as well. And I want a prospect C in return for Strome. I also want Chytil signed long term now so we can get a good contract on the books.
Machinehead
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gravey9
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A few things on Sammy Blais. I watched almost all of the St. Louis playoff games in their cup year. I remember when Blais, as a rookie, was inserted into the lineup and what a difference maker he felt like at the time. He played really well on a line with Barbashev and (was it Sunquist?). He very much can be the player we wanted Brendan Lemieux to be. Well, minus the fighting. Blais doesn't do that. But he does hit a ton. He plays a heavy game. And has some legit skill. He has to round out his game more. But he can be a real asset to the lineup. I wonder if one day he can be a net front presence on the 2nd PP. That said, I think what the Rangers should look to target in adding to the bottom 6 is one more guy who can play center but also has some legit speed. I wish Berard was a center and was a year older because he's the kind of addition i'm talking about. What I like about Blais, Barron and Goodrow is that when they hit you, you feel it. Barron isnt necessarily overly physical but when he hits someone or rubs them out along the walls, he's very effective. In the AHL he almost always won all those battles. The issue is, do we have someone with enough foot speed to be first one in, who can disrupt the breakout, because once that happens Barron, Blais and Goodrow will do their thing. These guys we're collecting with their size are very reminiscent of the Kings bottom 6 when they beat us. I think Goodrow MAY be that first guy in on the forecheck. But not sure. My guess is, we still need one more Hagelin/Berard type who can also take a draw and PK. I'm hoping that Gallant can turn Gauthier into that. Because he does have the footspeed required. (but he isn't an FO guy)
Blais Barron Gauthier seems pretty exciting.
Kreider Goodrow + _____ also could work as 2 parts of a 3rd line.
Blais Barron Gauthier seems pretty exciting.
Kreider Goodrow + _____ also could work as 2 parts of a 3rd line.
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