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Prospect Info: Robert Hagg [March 2014: AAV is $925k, 3-yr ELC, per Tim P.]
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deadhead
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Hagg and Gudas are the only physical defensemen on the team right now.
When Morin and Myers join the team, Hagg moves down the pecking order b/c his physical play has less value with two big D-men.
If Sanheim gets stronger and plays a better game in his D-zone, he'll jump right by Hagg.
People fixate on the current year, rosters aren't static.
When Morin and Myers join the team, Hagg moves down the pecking order b/c his physical play has less value with two big D-men.
If Sanheim gets stronger and plays a better game in his D-zone, he'll jump right by Hagg.
People fixate on the current year, rosters aren't static.
Tripod
I hate this team
No, people fixate that this coaching staff continuously ices a worse lineup and delegates more ice time to the undeserving.
Sanheim and Gudas were playing very good together. Now that pairing is gone. Now we watch Hagg and AMac get caved every night.
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I said it last night and I will say it again, this team would be better off with no coach at all than with Hakstol.. Just let Giroux be Player-Coach. The boys would be able to figure out who the best players are and ice time and combinations would flow accordingly. They wouldn't do dumb shit like sit back on leads in the 3rd and bench their talented young players that helped build the lead in the first place.
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Tripod
I hate this team
He still should be watching while Provy, Sanheim and Morin are the LHD.
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Cyborg LeClair
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Hagg had a good game
Also of note, his biggest detraction was always that he looked to play too nonchalantly and seemed to lack passion and hustle. I think this season, and especially this game, he has put that criticism aside.
Also of note, his biggest detraction was always that he looked to play too nonchalantly and seemed to lack passion and hustle. I think this season, and especially this game, he has put that criticism aside.
Tripod
I hate this team
I think it's that he panics with the puck and can't pass unless it's a no pressure pass to his D partner.
Today, had a few long passes what we're way off or into a crowd. But he did not hurt us today so all was good.
mja
Everything was beautiful, and nothing hurt
Ghosts Beer
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Hagg makes a lot of good defensive plays that get ignored. It’s clear he’s been told to stay back, he gets an inordinate amount of dzone starts, still is 2nd on the team in +/-, & is one of the only physical players on the team.
He probably gets too many minutes, but the hate is out of control. He’s a solid defenseman. And as a rookie handling hard minutes.
He probably gets too many minutes, but the hate is out of control. He’s a solid defenseman. And as a rookie handling hard minutes.
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Agreed, he looked very good today, as he does most games. He's pinching effectively, hitting everything in sight and playing tough in front. Fast players don't intimidate him. Keep learning, kid.
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It's not his fault that head coach is using him the way he is and it's not his fault Sanheim in the press box. Hagg is showing that he has potential. 2nd in hits and top 80 in block shots, only 30 giveaways, 6 takeaways, almost 19min of ice time per game. He needs to get better but he is 22yo in his 1st season.
LegionOfDoom91
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Those stats would mean something if he didn’t get catered in possession in the process.
LegionOfDoom91
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Not really. The Flyers still get pinned in their own zone at a good rate when he’s on the ice. He still sucks at moving the puck & concedes way too much open ice.
Ghosts Beer
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In the short term that’s impacted by his terribly disadvantageous zone starts.
And yet he’s still 2nd on the team in +/-.
And he was first among Phantoms D in +/- last year despite just 58 games.
Maybe there’s something to his defensive ability.
FLYguy3911
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Ghosts Beer
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FLYguy3911
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What is more short term than 1 game right?
60% OZ starts should mean a significant Corsi advantage, or so I was told...
60% OZ starts should mean a significant Corsi advantage, or so I was told...
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FLYguy3911
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Well according to you 40 games is too small of a sample and zone starts have a significant impact over small samples. A game with 60% OZ starts should result in a better CF% than 38 according to your theory.
