Value of: Ristolainen @ 50% to EDM

[thedjpd]

Go look up what he did in Buffalo with PP time.

Why do I care? He was also the worst dman in the league at that time. The OP is asking about his value now, not when it was in Buffalo. He put up a bunch of points playing with Eichel on the PP. Still not who he is now.

 

[DingDongCharlie]

Risto still has 2 more years on his deal @5.1m after this season.

He doesn't hold much value even with retention and I doubt Flyers want to commit a retention spot for years on him for some nothing return.

 

[Unbiased Fan]

Why do I care? He was also the worst dman in the league at that time. The OP is asking about his value now, not when it was in Buffalo. He put up a bunch of points playing with Eichel on the PP. Still not who he is now.

Just saying he has offensive potential unless if that just disappeared

 

[bleachdrinker]

As much as I want the Flyers to move on from him, I don’t see the fit for Edmonton. Maybe they retain for 2 years if they’re getting a 1st back, but we also have the Oilers’ 1st for this year. Not sure what their prospect pool looks like - any decent B prospects in Edmonton?

 

[TFHockey]

If the Oil are targeting a RHD with term that they want to pay additional assets to get 50% retention, I prefer the target be Connor Murphy.

That might be an option, but it looks like they want a defenseman with more offensive potential. Someone who can make a good outlet pass or skate the puck out of the d-zone.

I would prefer a Larsson type myself, but that doesn't seem to be on Bowman's shopping list.

 

[ManofSteel55]

I don’t see the Flyers retaining 2.5M for 3 years without being properly compensated.

Ridding themselves of a player who has spent the bulk of the last 5 years being awful is the compensation. Nobody is taking Ristolainen at full cap hit. If the Flyers don't want to retain salary to move him because of the length of the deal, then they can enjoy his services for another year or two.

I don't expect the Oilers to have interest in Ristolainen because of the length of his deal. I expect they want expiring contracts so they have enough for the McDavid and Bouchard extensions without paying teams to take contracts off of their hands.

As much as I want the Flyers to move on from him, I don’t see the fit for Edmonton. Maybe they retain for 2 years if they’re getting a 1st back, but we also have the Oilers’ 1st for this year. Not sure what their prospect pool looks like - any decent B prospects in Edmonton?

The retention is necessary because Ristolainen is so overpaid. You aren't getting extra assets for retaining on a guy who is overpaid on his contract by 50% at least.

 

[Washed Up 29YearOld]

Wait.. a trade proposal where the OP actually *wants* Ristolainen ???

 

[TFHockey]

Wait.. a trade proposal where the OP actually *wants* Ristolainen ???

Dude, read it. I don't want him. I feel Bowman is going to make a mistake and trade for him. I was asking what HF thinks that trade would look like.

 

[Washed Up 29YearOld]

Dude, read it. I don't want him. I feel Bowman is going to make a mistake and trade for him. I was asking what HF thinks that trade would look like.

I’m not trying to give you a hard time but risto is not good at all idk why fans even entertain him being on the team. And he’s a great guy irl I’m not hating on him but yeah he is not good at the whole hockey thing (and is grossly overpaid.

 

[57special]

PHI is not eating 50% of his cap unless they are getting something really good in return. EDM has nothing to give.

 

[Flyerfan47]

He has 6 points and a -1, lol. I wouldn't take him at free for 50%, never mind give up assets for him.

You show a lack of knowledge. 6 points you use ? Yeah ok
. Makar is -1. He sucks too right lol
Josi is -13. He also sucks right lol
Risto is -1 on a team thats often a train wreck. How do I know, I watch or go to every game. He was god last year as well. Hockey people that scout him know this, occasional fans don't

 

[Panthaz89]

You show a lack of knowledge. 6 points you use ? Yeah ok
. Makar is -1. He sucks too right lol
Josi is -13. He also sucks right lol
Risto is -1 on a team thats often a train wreck. How do I know, I watch or go to every game. He was god last year as well. Hockey people that scout him know this, occasional fans don't

Risto isn't the type that can get away with not producing.....if he's not producing he's total and utter garbage. He's proved over and over again that he can't sustain any kind of smart play over a season.

 

[Flyer lurker]

I feel as though this is the kind of trade Edmonton is going to commit to soon. I don't think Risto is the piece they need on the right side and they can't afford to get him at his full salary.

So as the wrong guy for too much $$$ it seems like the inevitable move Bowman is going to make,

What would be fair value?

According to Daily Faceoff NHL insider Anthony Di Marco, “The play of Ristolainen this season has elevated him in the eyes of the Flyers, and it sounds like the asking price for the hulking rearguard will be a first-round selection or value-equivalent.”

Now I am not saying they will get the first unless they take a really bad contract back.

But never overestimate the intelligence of nhl gm's when it comes to physical d-men.

https://phillyhockeynow.com/2024/11/05/philadelphia-flyers-demand-top-draft-pick-rasmus-ristolainen-trade/

 

[TFHockey]

According to Daily Faceoff NHL insider Anthony Di Marco, “The play of Ristolainen this season has elevated him in the eyes of the Flyers, and it sounds like the asking price for the hulking rearguard will be a first-round selection or value-equivalent.”

Now I am not saying they will get the first unless they take a really bad contract back.

But never overestimate the intelligence of nhl gm's when it comes to physical d-men.

https://phillyhockeynow.com/2024/11/05/philadelphia-flyers-demand-top-draft-pick-rasmus-ristolainen-trade/

Thanks for that, I appreciate the insight.

A few fans have spoken highly of Risto's play lately. He isn't the guy I would want the Oilers to target, but I don't think this team has any real plan or agenda to make the improvements they need to.

 

[Flyer lurker]

Thanks for that, I appreciate the insight.

A few fans have spoken highly of Risto's play lately. He isn't the guy I would want the Oilers to target, but I don't think this team has any real plan or agenda to make the improvements they need to.

To be clear I would drive risto to edm personally for a 1st and a bad ry-jo type of deal.

Its more like a 2+, bad contract for Risto.

But hockey gms are galactically stupid over physical d-men. I wouldn't want my gm to overpay for Risto like Up Chuck Flusher. But some nit wit for sure will.