Refs video review an Ian Cole interference penalty and change it to a Tyler Myers 5 minute major.

notsocommonsense

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I've never seen a review change the call AND the player AND the penalty length. Can they do that?! Lol


Sorry it went from interference minor on Cole to elbowing major on Myers.
I think it was actually called a Major on Cole for Interference/boarding initially, changed to a Major on Myers for elbowing. Definitely a strange sequence of events, never seen them cancel the penalty they called to call a completely different one via review.

Fortunately Van was exceptional on the kill
 

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The call was right, but the entire sequence was very odd. Would be interesting to see the verbiage around how they can do that

They can’t, according to the rule book:

> The Referee shall have the following options after video review of his own call: (i) confirming his original Major Penalty call; (ii) reducing his original Major Penalty call to a lesser penalty; or (iii) rescinding the original Major Penalty altogether.
 

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I've never seen that before. It was.. um... strange. It felt like a new rule was written on the spot or something. I'd love to hear the NHL's explanation of this.
HNIC panel said they talked to the NHl and they said “we just want to get the right call” or something similar…. Complete joke.
 

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They can’t, according to the rule book:

> The Referee shall have the following options after video review of his own call: (i) confirming his original Major Penalty call; (ii) reducing his original Major Penalty call to a lesser penalty; or (iii) rescinding the original Major Penalty altogether.
This. They ended up getting the correct penalty, but had to completely ignore the rules of review to do so. If they want to be able to do that, change the rule. But you can’t just make shit up in game
 

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This. They ended up getting the correct penalty, but had to completely ignore the rules of review to do so. If they want to be able to do that, change the rule. But you can’t just make shit up in game
hardly the first time, they like to play fast and loose with what they technically can and can't do in order to make things "right" but then don't always remember to do that in other games.

I think they just got way tired of hearing it on social media from fans about how they got the wrong guy or some other small problem in the grand scheme, hoping more people will accept roughly the right call even if it's against the rules than adhere so literally to what they can and can't do that they make themselves look stupid.
 

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They can’t, according to the rule book:

> The Referee shall have the following options after video review of his own call: (i) confirming his original Major Penalty call; (ii) reducing his original Major Penalty call to a lesser penalty; or (iii) rescinding the original Major Penalty altogether.
That’s what the pbp guys cited, but thought it could be covered somewhere else
 

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I mean.

I think if they're reviewing it they should get it right. Maybe they didn't follow the letter of the law, but they followed the spirit.

I don't really see what the big deal is. I think it's just better that they get it right, no? The other option is giving the major to the wrong guy, and kicking the wrong guy out of the game, or not giving a penalty for something that clearly should be a penalty... Which I think are both objectively inferior in terms of sportsmanship, competition, and player safety.
 

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I mean.

I think if they're reviewing it they should get it right. Maybe they didn't follow the letter of the law, but they followed the spirit.

I don't really see what the big deal is. I think it's just better that they get it right, no? The other option is giving the major to the wrong guy, and kicking the wrong guy out of the game, or not giving a penalty for something that clearly should be a penalty... Which I think are both objectively inferior in terms of sportsmanship, competition, and player safety.
Rules are in place for a reason, they essentially gave a 5 minute major to someone who wasn’t even called for a 2 minute minor and the play they called the penalty on was deemed not a penalty.

That’s a slippery slope in a meaningful playoff game. In theory you shouldn’t be able to review the plays leading up to what the intended reviewable content was
 

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I mean.

I think if they're reviewing it they should get it right. Maybe they didn't follow the letter of the law, but they followed the spirit.

I don't really see what the big deal is. I think it's just better that they get it right, no? The other option is giving the major to the wrong guy, and kicking the wrong guy out of the game, or not giving a penalty for something that clearly should be a penalty... Which I think are both objectively inferior in terms of sportsmanship, competition, and player safety.
They weren’t even looking at that play, it’s not that they got the wrong player. They literally called a different infraction.

If you want to go this far, may as well institute a VAR system like in soccer.
 

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Nobody talking about how it was also, consequently, the weakest elbowing call of all time

Canucks scored three powerplay goals; the referees cannot have that type of imbalance - they have to talk to Bettman later, and he's the one who delivers their Christmas presents.
 
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hardly the first time, they like to play fast and loose with what they technically can and can't do in order to make things "right" but then don't always remember to do that in other games.

I think they just got way tired of hearing it on social media from fans about how they got the wrong guy or some other small problem in the grand scheme, hoping more people will accept roughly the right call even if it's against the rules than adhere so literally to what they can and can't do that they make themselves look stupid.
Ultimately it didn’t hurt Van. It actually probably helped them as they dominated the 5 minute major.
But it really does make the league look pretty unprofessional when those that are supposed to be enforcing the rulebook don’t even follow it.
And the next time this situation happens, flip a coin to decide whether they “enforce” it in the same manner.
 

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Ultimately it didn’t hurt Van. It actually probably helped them as they dominated the 5 minute major.
But it really does make the league look pretty unprofessional when those that are supposed to be enforcing the rulebook don’t even follow it.
And the next time this situation happens, flip a coin to decide whether they “enforce” it in the same manner.
Yeah but on the flip side we went through a lot of years of officials calling penalties, replay pointing out that the wrong guy "did it" or that something else happened, and then the refs being cuffed to the rules and forced to call something stupid and then make it up with a 2 minute minor like... right away to offset everything.

It already looked unprofessional and foolish, this is just betting on the people who need to see the professionalism not knowing the minutia of the rules yet. Look like a bit of a clown league either way but at least it was the right guy for the right call.
 

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