Reaves incident with Grubauer/Graves MOD - NO Racial remarks allowed. (Suspended 2 games)

[Pez68]

1) ok thats fair, so give him 2 min and 10 min misconduct
2) i dont see that happening here tbh, i see a guy trying to start some shenanigans with graves and then a linesman and a avs player basically dogpile onto reaves which forced him onto the ice where graves was.

They were trying to pull him OFF of Graves. They weren't "dogpiling" on him. He's just that f***ing big and strong. It's CLEAR what he's trying to do. He puts his knee on his head/neck a couple times, and the entire time he has his hands on his helmet/face, trying to pry it off(which he eventually does). This is AFTER putting him in a headlock and dragging him to the ice face first.

 

[notsocommonsense]

Reaves will probably get a 5k fine and thats about it

Its kind of similar to what Wilson did. No suspension

Though they botched the Wilson call, the kneeling on graves face here gives them an out

 

[landstuhltaylor]

Literally .6 seconds after passing the puck. If that's late, they all are.

...which is why it very clearly says regular-season-late

 

[Leafsdude7]

Has the league ever once cared about consistency?

No, but they do care about PR.

 

[NHL Review]

All Graves had to do was fight Carrier instead of laughing in his face and this wouldn't of happened.

Didn’t like the hit by Graves at all but he doesn’t “owe” anyone anything. Let the officials and the league take care of it, that’s their job.

If Vegas wants to target him with clean checks so be it. I don’t think they should have their game plan around that (best way to get “revenge” is on the scoreboard) but that’s up to them. It didn’t cause Reaves to react this way and it’s definitely not an excuse for what happened.

 

[rmthomson21]

1) ok thats fair, so give him 2 min and 10 min misconduct
2) i dont see that happening here tbh, i see a guy trying to start some shenanigans with graves and then a linesman and a avs player basically dogpile onto reaves which forced him onto the ice where graves was.

It was the Avs fault for piling on Bertuzzi, the Avs broke their own guy's neck

(massive /s, in case that's not clear)

 

[Leafsdude7]

Yes, it was worse with the hit to the goalie’s head, premeditation, and the knee to the neck. You can make plausible arguments to justify a suspension here; you just might not want them to get reviewed by an independent arbitrator so you’d keep it less than 6 games.

I don't know that it was. And I think you could (and many did) make plausible arguments to justify a suspension with Wilson. I honestly don't think the NHL can survive a PR storm where they suspend Reaves after not suspending Wilson.

 

[Johnny HFBOARDS]

This should make a few feel better

 

[Finnflash]

Match penalties aren’t given out that often.

This had intent to injure all over it.

He should be done for the rest of time.

 

[Pierce Hawthorne]

To me, the big difference here between this and the Wilson incident... Panarin initiated with Wilson by jumping on his back. Graves did not initiate anything with Reaves here.


And second, Reaves was clearly, unquestionably trying to injure Graves here. And it was clearly in retaliation to events earlier in the game. This was completely premeditated from Reaves, it was the sole purpose of his existence on the ice the entire 2nd half of the game.


I dont know what Reaves suspension history is, but I think this suspension will be close to Kadri's, depending on how severe the league believes Reaves intent truly was with his knee clamping down on Graves head... It could be significantly higher.

 

[Tobias Kahun]

Didn’t like the hit by Graves at all but he doesn’t “owe” anyone anything. Let the officials and the league take care of it, that’s their job.

If Vegas wants to target him with clean checks so be it. I don’t think they should have their game plan around that (best way to get “revenge” is on the scoreboard) but that’s up to them. It didn’t cause Reaves to react this way and it’s definitely not an excuse for what happened.

New to watching the NHL? Hockey is a violent sport played with lots of emotion.

 

[cgf]

Brother he's being sarcastic.

TBF I do genuinely think that the NHL is clueless enough to want to send that message as I struggle to believe an organization that was trying to highlight the skill of its game, would make even half of the dumb decisions that the NHL has. Whereas if you assume that they think the best way to grow the sport is by maximizing parity and appealing to that "old time hockey" crowd, their decisions make a lot more sense.

Obviously, they are wrong & just making the game more & more of a niche sport, but there's no reason why they can't be incompetent & wrong.

 

[armedequation]

More concerned with him trying to force his knee into the neck/throat of graves. 275lbs of weight on his knee into a guys throat can literally kill them. I like Reeves as a player but this was overboard...

really? you consider him a player? he has talent as a hockey player that you like?

 

[CupInSIX]

Good, suspend him. Waste of space on the ice.

I'm not sure why Deboer played him over Kolesar tbh.

 

[rocketdan9]

Graves.

Reaves punked him tho

 

[The Crypto Guy]

Looks very much like Wilson's crap. So 5K fine?

 

[rocketdan9]

Landeskog? Sure, why not.

Not a good trade off

 

[HldMyBeer]

It was the Avs fault for piling on Bertuzzi, the Avs broke their own guy's neck

(massive /s, in case that's not clear)

Take another look, he did not have to ram his knee into his face, nor try to get his helmet off and do it again

 

[Turbonium]

1) ok thats fair, so give him 2 min and 10 min misconduct
2) i dont see that happening here tbh, i see a guy trying to start some shenanigans with graves and then a linesman and a avs player basically dogpile onto reaves which forced him onto the ice where graves was.

I hate when my knee is repeatedly pushed into a guy's neck for no reason. Seems like Reaves should be a bit more aware that doing such a thing is frowned upon?

 

[S E P H]

THG mentioned on his channel that because Reaves got a match penalty for "intent to injure" it by passes Parros and goes straight to Bettman himself.

 

[Turbonium]

Everyone (including me) makes the $5000 jokes and whatnot, but can the NHL seriously suspend Reaves for this without showing a clear double standard/inconsistency after the Wilson incident?

And in a similar vein, does Reaves back off a bit if Wilson gets even a game for his actions?

It's times like these that I'm disappointed we don't have time machines.

Lol it's a bit late for the league to worry about inconsistency with player safety. Good one!

 

[Leafsdude7]

To me, the big difference here between this and the Wilson incident... Panarin initiated with Wilson by jumping on his back.

It's amazing just how easily everyone forgets that the fine was for the Buchnevich incident, not what happened with Panarin.

There's not a lot of difference between Reaves on Graves and Wilson on Buchnevich, except that Reaves used his knee, whereas Wilson used his glove.

 

[sparxx87]

Or, you know, the league could do what it should’ve done long ago and ban fighting so players like Reaves and Wilson aren’t desired.

According to you and all the other Karens?

They polled the players; 99% want fighting in the game.

Don’t like it? Find another sport.

 

[rmthomson21]

Take another look, he did not have to ram his knee into his face, nor try to get his helmet off and do it again

My post was sarcasm

 

[Korpse]

According to you and all the other Karen’s?

They polled the players; 99% want fighting in the game.

Don’t like it? Find another sport.

There was a time 99% of players didn't want to wear helmets either.