Speculation: Re-Sign Campbell?

[ACC1224]

Currently the most important topic in Leaf Land, amazing that no thread currently exists.

A few questions to get the topic rolling.

Is it an immediate concern or something to deal with in the off season?
If he won't deal mid season should he be moved or is it acceptable to lose the asset for no return?
How far should Dubas go to get this guy signed? Open the vault or let him walk if he wants too much?

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[axlrose87]

Currently the most important topic in Leaf Land, amazing that no thread currently exists.

A few questions to get the topic rolling.

Is it an immediate concern or something to deal with in the off season?
If he won't deal mid season should he be moved or is it acceptable to lose the asset for no return?
How far should Dubas go to get this guy signed? Open the vault or let him walk if he wants too much?

Great goalie but quite injury prone throughout his career. I would love to keep him at a reasonable number (around $5 million). Otherwise, you have to let him walk. Even though we tend to grow attached, goalies are very replaceable.

 

[zeke]

It is a MASSIVE concern, and the Leafs are absolutely SCREWED because dumbas screwed up the cap so bad they are clearly going to lose their MVP who is CARRYING the team and who they CANT WIN WITHOUT.

lol GM dumbas.

 

[ACC1224]

Great goalie but quite injury prone throughout his career. I would love to keep him at a reasonable number (around $5 million). Otherwise, you have to let him walk. Even though we tend to grow attached, goalies are very replaceable.

Kind of how I'm feeling.
No way I'd move him in season if he refuses to sign. Hate to see him walk though.

 

[CantLoseWithMatthews]

It is a MASSIVE concern, and the Leafs are absolutely SCREWED because dumbas screwed up the cap so bad they are clearly going to lose their MVP who is CARRYING the team and who they CANT WIN WITHOUT.

lol GM dumbas.

I don't think there's anything left to be said on the matter

 

[TheGreatOne11]

He's the heart and soul of the team and the biggest reason our record is so great.

He should have been resigned in the off-season, whether that was Dubas fault or Campbells decision remains to be seen, you hate to see a vezina caliber season on a contract year.

I believe it will be a deal under 5.5, and Mrazek gets dealt to help pay for his increased salary, my only issue is this man has never been paid and if his agent wants to put the screws to us he is 100% going to and has every right to fight for every penny having taken 10 years to get to where he is.

My thoughts are he signs something around 5x5 and stays a Leaf.

 

[ACC1224]

He's the heart and soul of the team and the biggest reason our record is so great.

He should have been resigned in the off-season, whether that was Dubas fault or Campbells decision remains to be seen, you hate to see a vezina caliber season on a contract year.

I believe it will be a deal under 5.5, and Mrazek gets dealt to help pay for his increased salary, my only issue is this man has never been paid and if his agent wants to put the screws to us he is 100% going to and has every right to fight for every penny having taken 10 years to get to where he is.

My thoughts are he signs something around 5x5 and stays a Leaf.

Yeah in hindsight he should have been locked up in the off season and perhaps Dubas tried, not sure if that info is public?

I don't blame Dubas for the wait and see approach. I would have done the same.

 

[TheBeastCoast]

I honestly just don't care about the cap stuff at this point. I assume they will figure out a reasonable contract for Campbell and likely trade Mrazek in the off season to make it all work out. Beyond that it has gotten tiring micro analyzing cap implications of every player on a cheap deal playing well like 3 years ago. I am sure once we get Campbell signed the fanbase will move on to Bunting or something lol

 

[Buds17]

Currently the most important topic in Leaf Land, amazing that no thread currently exists.

A few questions to get the topic rolling.

Is it an immediate concern or something to deal with in the off season?
If he won't deal mid season should he be moved or is it acceptable to lose the asset for no return?
How far should Dubas go to get this guy signed? Open the vault or let him walk if he wants too much?

Would be good to deal with it sooner rather than later considering he is the starting goalie. He absolutely should not be moved though since he helps the team compete as much as he does for the league's top prize. There's no doubt a point in many negotiations where it becomes too much. Not sure what that is in this situation regarding AAV and term? It just would be nice to enter into and witness a less than eventful offseason by way of having the most impactful pieces already dealt with and in tow going forward (Rielly and Campbell).

 

[zeke]

I honestly just don't care about the cap stuff at this point. I assume they will figure out a reasonable contract for Campbell and likely trade Mrazek in the off season to make it all work out. Beyond that it has gotten tiring micro analyzing cap implications of every player on a cheap deal playing well like 3 years ago. I am sure once we get Campbell signed the fanbase will move on to Bunting or something lol

besides, the biggest concerns in the offseason are obviously all the incoming offer sheets to Sandin, Lilly, and Kase.

 

[ACC1224]

I honestly just don't care about the cap stuff at this point. I assume they will figure out a reasonable contract for Campbell and likely trade Mrazek in the off season to make it all work out. Beyond that it has gotten tiring micro analyzing cap implications of every player on a cheap deal playing well like 3 years ago. I am sure once we get Campbell signed the fanbase will move on to Bunting or something lol

As a fan, the Cap is the worse thing to happen to the League. Absolutely hate it.

 

[LeafGrief]

I'm sure Dubas is calling Campbell's agent every couple of hours asking if he wants to sign a deal. Campbell is getting more and more expensive as every day goes by.

Love to see it tbh, these are the good problems to have. I think Campbell is making himself indispensable and will be re-signed even if it causes us to move a piece we otherwise wouldn't want to. We suddenly have a Vezina looking goalie without pedigree, which means he is maximum upside and still somewhat cost effective. We'll get him locked up to some term in the 5-6m range. Where does the money come from? Honestly, I don't really care, he's been that good.

 

[TheScandal89]

Imo Muzzin is going to be traded for cap relief this summer to sign Campbell. It sucks, because he's good and really our only grit on the back end, but I could see it happening because we got Reilly, Sandin, and Dermott who could play the Left side, and I'm sure there hoping someone like Kokkanen or Kral could fill the bottom pair if needed.

People saying its easy to replace a goalie forget what it was like the majority of the time between Belfour and Andersen lol

 

[Hockey Crazy]

It’ll work itself out. For now I’ll enjoy his play this season.

 

[Knies iT]

It is a MASSIVE concern, and the Leafs are absolutely SCREWED because dumbas screwed up the cap so bad they are clearly going to lose their MVP who is CARRYING the team and who they CANT WIN WITHOUT.

lol GM dumbas.

Good point. Someone has to keep it real around here.

 

[Notsince67]

Kind of how I'm feeling.
No way I'd move him in season if he refuses to sign. Hate to see him walk though.

The ceiling anyone would pay for him is 6 and few would be in a position to pay that for a cup run. Teams that aren't competitive wont pay that for what will be a 30 year old goaltender.
Doubt he risks moving to a toxic environment instead of the good locker room he has. 5 is a good number with some term.

 

[Advanced stats]

Imo Muzzin is going to be traded for cap relief this summer to sign Campbell

At this point, marazk will be traded for a cheaper safety net backup.

 

[ToneDog]

The ceiling anyone would pay for him is 6 and few would be in a position to pay that for a cup run. Teams that aren't competitive wont pay that for what will be a 30 year old goaltender.
Doubt he risks moving to a toxic environment instead of the good locker room he has. 5 is a good number with some term.

I thought the Peterson deal (5mx3) but now I think he wants/gets more. The risk is that he has a great playoffs and the Oilers swoop in with another big overpay that we cannot match.

 

[TheGroceryStick]

Leaf Nation in a nutshell.
Worry about the future and not enjoy the present

 

[Notsince67]

I thought the Peterson deal (5mx3) but now I think he wants/gets more. The risk is that he has a great playoffs and the Oilers swoop in with another big overpay that we cannot match.

Oilers need to overpay just for geography. It would have to be massive.

 

[ACC1224]

Leaf Nation in a nutshell.
Worry about the future and not enjoy the present

Doing two things at once isn’t that difficult

 

[zeke]

 

[al secord]

Darren Dreger thread.

 

[TheGroceryStick]

Doing two things at once isn’t that difficult

That's someone else's job; I'm here for a good time

 

[Thornbury]

Good point. Someone has to keep it real around here.

Yeah, Dubas isn't nearly as good a GM as the guy who made the great trade to get Campbell from the Kings in the first place. Remind me, was that Lou L, John Ferguson or Punch Imlach? I have a hard time keeping track.