Rangers replenish scouting department with several new hires including Ari Vuori as head of Euro scouting.
Rangers Replenish Scouting Department
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Staple is 5 days late. That Information was posted in the Morehouse and Maxwell thread.
Gaspar was most recently the GM of the Brandon Wheat Kings and Richard was let go by the Canucks from his scouting job earlier this summer
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so based on track record, etc, what does everyone think?
upgrade?
downgrade?
more of the same?
worries/no worries?
upgrade?
downgrade?
more of the same?
worries/no worries?
haohmaru
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Vargas was really well thought of in Minnesota. My old friend used to work in that department and spoke very highly of him. Not sure whether he was cut loose or if he left of his own volition but there’s been a lot of front office churn there in the last few years.
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Doug Gasper:
Jett Woo (37th in 2018)
Carson Focht (133rd in 2019)
Derek Richard:
Ethan Keppen (122nd in 2019)
Connor Lockhart (178th in 2021)
Kirill Kudryavtsev (208th in 2022)
Pierre Rioux:
Frederik Gauthier (21st in 2013)
Antoine Bibeau (172nd in 2013)
Dmytro Timashov (125th in 2015)
Ernie Vargas:
A.J. Thelen (12th in 2004)
Kyle Wilson (272nd in 2004)
Sean Lorenz (115th in 2008)
Alexander Fällström (116th in 2009)
Erik Haula (182nd in 2009)
Anthony Hamburg (193rd in 2009)
Jason Zucker (59th in 2010)
Mario Lucia (60th in 2011)
Nick Seeler (131st in 2011)
Steve Michalak (161st in 2011)
John Draeger (68th in 2012)
Adam Gilmour (98th in 2012)
Louis Nanne (188th in 2012)
Gustav Olofsson (46th in 2013)
Avery Peterson (167th in 2013)
Alex Tuch (18th in 2014)
Louie Belpedio (80th in 2014)
Jordan Greenway (50th in 2015)
Nick Boka (171st in 2015)
Jack Sadek (204th in 2015)
Luke Kunin (15th in 2016)
Matt Boldy (12th in 2019)
Filip Lindberg (197th in 2019)
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So we hired three guys who lost their previous job due to ineptitude. Great job.
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There are two things hockey fans hate:
1. Hiring people with experience
2. Hiring people with no experience
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Oof, what a way to start off your career drafting AJ Thelen. Biggest flop of that draft year but rounding out the resume with Haula, Zucker, Tuch, Greenway, Kunin, and Boldy. Even still, VERY UNEXCITED. Thanks for digging up that list.
Miamipuck
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You can't judge scouts by simply listing players.In my opinion you have no idea how much pull they had in the room, who they prioritized, were they overruled on a player and why, team needs etc etc.
That said, the list isn't terribly exciting, to say the least, and the answers to the questions can even make them look worse. Too many variables that go into scouting/drafting a player, you can never accurately tell how good or bad a scout really is. So who knows, we can be pleasantly surprised 3-5 years from now when the results start kicking in. Hopefully that is the case.
I just hope the Rangers continue to invest considerably in the scouting, infrastructure and player development as there is no cap to worry about there. I even think the latter two are even more important.
That said, the list isn't terribly exciting, to say the least, and the answers to the questions can even make them look worse. Too many variables that go into scouting/drafting a player, you can never accurately tell how good or bad a scout really is. So who knows, we can be pleasantly surprised 3-5 years from now when the results start kicking in. Hopefully that is the case.
I just hope the Rangers continue to invest considerably in the scouting, infrastructure and player development as there is no cap to worry about there. I even think the latter two are even more important.
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Yes, and it also doesn't take into account players that they did not draft but aquired later in trades like the Rangers who were very vocal about how they wanted Lemieux and Hájek in their draft year.
The list is just that, a list. I only posted it because it was requested but the time that goes into the work of a scout is much harder to explain and put on paper.
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Actually looking at Vargas--from Tuch on that's pretty good. Belpedio's been up and down and Greenway, Kunin and Boldy. Also Filip Lindberg is a really good goalie prospect. He was on the same UMass championship team as Zac Jones and was the best goalie in college hockey. After his senior year he took the August option and and signed with the Penguins. I wanted us to sign him. He must have been injured most of last year because he only played 7 games in Wilkes-Barre. But I wouldn't sleep on him.
Chris MacFarland gets promoted to General Manager in Colorado. He hires Kevin McDonald of the Blues as his AGM. McDonald was the GM of the Blues AHL team. Blues hire Kevin Maxwell as their AHL GM. The Rangers hire Garth Joy from the Avalanche to replace Maxwell. Three team trade.
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The Rangers announced this hiring after it appeared on their website 2 weeks ago.
I have read good things about Joy. The Avs sucked for a while. They were good. They were bad. They are good. Joy was there for the complete cycle.
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As far as I've gathered as an Avs fan as well, he was the head of amateur scouting which was the backbone to the success of Colorado. This Colorado team wasn't built through the draft (apart from the top players), it was built via trades on smart FA signings. A start difference to say Tampa who seemingly find diamonds every year in the later rounds and have used those with their run.
Joy ran the pro scouting department with Terry Martin. The Avalanche were MacKonnon, Landeskog, Duchene and Rantanen. They had Johnson and Barrie on D. They had no depth. They made some really good trades. Joy had a role in advising Sakic on those players. The Duchene trade brought back Girard and the pick used for Byram. The two other young players in that trade haven't made it. Bowers and Kamenev. The Barrie and Kerfoot for Kadri was an excellent trade. Colorado retained 50% of Barrie. Two second picks for Toews. A two and three for Burakovsky. They signed Nchushkin after the Stars bought him out. Lehkonen was an excellent addition.
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I feel like Anaheim is doing a good job drafting. That might just be ruby colored WJC lenses talking
