Confirmed with Link: Rangers re-sign Henrik Lundqvist [7 years, $59.5M, $8.5M AAV, Full NMC]

[Raspewtin]

I wanted Lundqvist back but not at this price. It's a move that will keep the Rangers in the playoffs for the next 7 years, so Dolan can make money, but with Hank and Nash on the books at well over 16 million this team won't have the room to make the big improvements they need to make to be a Stanley Cup contender. It's more lateral movement. The same lateral movement they've been making since 1940.

It's literally $1.7 mill over his previous contract.

What superstar is signing here for $1.7 mill?

The price is being so blown out of proportion here it hurts.

 

[broadwayblue]

They overspent by about 2.5-3MM a year. Can't wait to read all the Sather bashing this summer when he doesn't have the cap space to sign a big time forward and all you coconuts are accusing him of being asleep at the wheel.

2.5-3MM/year? Seriously, you think his market value is as low as 5.5M or 6M? Based on what? Obviously you are looking at a different market. Let's see how much the cap goes up this summer before we start accusing Sather of overpaying for him.

 

[ecemleafs]

I wanted Lundqvist back but not at this price. It's a move that will keep the Rangers in the playoffs for the next 7 years, so Dolan can make money, but with Hank and Nash on the books at well over 16 million this team won't have the room to make the big improvements they need to make to be a Stanley Cup contender. It's more lateral movement. The same lateral movement they've been making since 1940.

signing your best player and one of the best in the NHL isnt a lateral move.

 

[TonyTheGr8]

Those were at least attempts, albeit feeble ones, to improve the team in areas where it was weak.

This isn't even an attempt. It's taking the same model that blatantly hasn't been working, which is put **** on the ice and pray Lundqvist shuts out the universe, and reinstating that model for the next 7 years.

In addition, those other signings were done with the safety net of being able to buy those players out or dump them on a sucker. Today's signing was made in a post-recapture league.

This team is a 12th place team without Lundqvist in net. Plain and simple. There is not even a debate about that.

And a safety net? You mean the lockouts? You mean Sather having to beg and bamboozle people to take these contracts? Trust me..IF the day ever comes when Lundqvist is ever going to be traded (which it won't), they'll find someone. You're talking about Henrik Freaking Lundqvist here. He will be one of the greatest Rangers of all time by the time he hangs it up. And as far as the team improving offensively, what more can they do? They've brought in tons of offensive players that have had success somewhere else, and it hasn't worked. They could bring Crosby, Malkin and Ovechkin in here..all at the same time..all in their prime, and they would struggle. That's the Rangers curse the last 20 years. So considering that Henrik at least makes us a playoff team..I would much rather have him here, than not.

 

[broadwayblue]

In the big picture how does this contract make the Rangers better moving forward?

They just resigned something they already had for more money and added in a no movement clause.

Even if the cap goes up and they buyout Richards, that space is destined for some combination of Callahan, Girardi, Stralman, Boyle, Pyatt, Moore the RFAs, MDZ, Brassard, Kreider, J Moore, Zucc, Falk or their equivalent or lesser replacements.

It's going to be pretty much the same talent level as was here before. It's not like they have anything down on the farm who is going to come up and be a cheaper better replacement for these guys. On the UFA front it's the same thing, either overpay or pick from the leftovers.

Next off-season any increase in the cap is going to be absorbed by Stepan, Hagelin, Staal, Dorsett, Talbot or their replacements.

I like Lundqvist and all, but this signing does not improve the team beyond what they already had. Had he taken a discount then sure, that at least gives them the opportunity to improve somewhere else, not a guarantee, but a possibility.

Seems to me Lundqvist and the Rangers just pretty much guaranteed more of the same, somewhere in the mediocre range for the foreseeable future.

Actually it's less as has already been pointed out. And the NMC may or may not be an issue...5 years from now.

 

[Machinehead]

signing your best player and one of the best in the NHL isnt a lateral move.

Signing a guy that's already on the team is inherently a lateral move. How are the Rangers moving forward with so much of the cap tied up in two players?

 

[patnyrnyg]

whos this big forward we shud be signing this summer thats worth sacrificing our franchise goalie?

I am speaking in general terms and how things go on this site.

 

[patnyrnyg]

This team is a 12th place team without Lundqvist in net. Plain and simple. There is not even a debate about that.

And a safety net? You mean the lockouts? You mean Sather having to beg and bamboozle people to take these contracts? Trust me..IF the day ever comes when Lundqvist is ever going to be traded (which it won't), they'll find someone. You're talking about Henrik Freaking Lundqvist here. He will be one of the greatest Rangers of all time by the time he hangs it up. And as far as the team improving offensively, what more can they do? They've brought in tons of offensive players that have had success somewhere else, and it hasn't been successful. They could bring Crosby, Malkin and Ovechkin in here..all at the same time..all in their prime, and they would struggle. That's the Rangers curse the last 20 years. Sorry..I would much rather have Henrik here, than not.

12th place? In an 8-team division? They have gotten past the 2nd round once with him. They can not win the Cup without him just like they do with him.

 

[Machinehead]

This team is a 12th place team without Lundqvist in net. Plain and simple. There is not even a debate about that.

And a safety net? You mean the lockouts? You mean Sather having to beg and bamboozle people to take these contracts? Trust me..IF the day ever comes when Lundqvist is ever going to be traded (which it won't), they'll find someone. You're talking about Henrik Freaking Lundqvist here. He will be one of the greatest Rangers of all time by the time he hangs it up. And as far as the team improving offensively, what more can they do? They've brought in tons of offensive players that have had success somewhere else, and it hasn't been successful. They could bring Crosby, Malkin and Ovechkin in here..all at the same time..all in their prime, and they would struggle. That's the Rangers curse the last 20 years. Sorry..I would much rather have Henrik here, than not.

See that's the difference between you and me. You beleive in curses. I believe in poor management.

 

[ecemleafs]

Signing a guy that's already on the team is inherently a lateral move. How are the Rangers moving forward with so much of the cap tied up in two players?

the cap is going up. were adding less than 2m per year with this contract.

 

[SixGoalieSystem]

A bit steep at that term, but he's been the best and most important Ranger the last few years and will probably remain so the next seven. Glad he's back, and wouldn't be surprised if he starts playing like his old self again.

 

[TheTakedown]

http://blueshirtsunited.com/videos/...&utm_content=facebook_1386183256#.Up-EYKlDuSo

Hanks face @ 23 seconds is priceless!

 

[patnyrnyg]

It's literally $1.7 mill over his previous contract.

What superstar is signing here for $1.7 mill?

The price is being so blown out of proportion here it hurts.

If they have only $1.7MM in space you would have a point. However, when it winds up the difference between having $5.5MM in space and $7.2MM in space to sign someone, that $1.7MM is much bigger.

 

[TonyTheGr8]

12th place? In an 8-team division? They have gotten past the 2nd round once with him. They can not win the Cup without him just like they do with him.

I'm talking conference, not division. That's #1. And would you seriously rather they just let him walk and gave the reins to Cam Talbot? Seriously think about long and hard before you answer..please..I'm begging you.

See that's the difference between you and me. You beleive in curses. I believe in poor management.

No..I actually believe in both. And don't count on Sather going anywhere, anytime soon. He could take a dump on Dolan's desk, and he'd still be the GM.

 

[Richter Scale]

Very happy that, with this, Lundqvist will likely be a career Ranger. Also happy that Sather had his **** together and got it done before the trade deadline/offseason.

Not thrilled with the term or $. But ultimately, I think we all knew this was the range of what it would take to get it done. Lets just hope he gets back on form this season and stays that way for the duration of the contract.

 

[JESSEWENEEDTOCOOK]

If they have only $1.7MM in space you would have a point. However, when it winds up the difference between having $5.5MM in space and $7.2MM in space to sign someone, that $1.7MM is much bigger.

Again, who are they signing that is as good as Lundqvist? No one. Sather will just sign another garbage UFA and the cycle will continue.

This team needs to develop players to score, not buy them. Whether that be through trade or the draft, it doesn't matter - it needs to happen. With or without Lundqvist, we're not winning the cup scoring 2.25 GPG, and I don't see how not having Lundqvist will help the team accomplish that goal.

 

[Machinehead]

the cap is going up. were adding less than 2m per year with this contract.

That's gonna be 2 million we don't have when Callahan holds this team hostage for close to 6.

Also I was hoping this contract would be a turning point where the Rangers would shift in philosophy. This massive extension signals that they're just gonna keep throwing Lundqvist up against the wall until it sticks. Hank's great but it doesn't work.

 

[Doctor King Schultz]

In the big picture how does this contract make the Rangers better moving forward?

They just resigned something they already had for more money and added in a no movement clause.

Even if the cap goes up and they buyout Richards, that space is destined for some combination of Callahan, Girardi, Stralman, Boyle, Pyatt, Moore the RFAs, MDZ, Brassard, Kreider, J Moore, Zucc, Falk or their equivalent or lesser replacements.

It's going to be pretty much the same talent level as was here before. It's not like they have anything down on the farm who is going to come up and be a cheaper better replacement for these guys. On the UFA front it's the same thing, either overpay or pick from the leftovers.

Next off-season any increase in the cap is going to be absorbed by Stepan, Hagelin, Staal, Dorsett, Talbot or their replacements.

I like Lundqvist and all, but this signing does not improve the team beyond what they already had. Had he taken a discount then sure, that at least gives them the opportunity to improve somewhere else, not a guarantee, but a possibility.

Seems to me Lundqvist and the Rangers just pretty much guaranteed more of the same, somewhere in the mediocre range for the foreseeable future.

Sather has not proven that he could put together a better team given the money to do so. I agree that Lundqvist is asking for a lot of money, but its because I don't believe in Sather that I don't mind this over payment. I'd rather keep Lundqvist than Sather signing another aging Brad Richards type player.

 

[JESSEWENEEDTOCOOK]

That's gonna be 2 million we don't have when Callahan holds this team hostage for close to 6.

Also I was hoping this contract would be a turning point where the Rangers would shift in philosophy. This massive extension signals that they're just gonna keep throwing Lundqvist up against the wall until it sticks. Hank's great but it doesn't work.

Hank at $8.5M and no Callahan > Hank at $7.5M and Callahan at $6M. All day every day.

I'm hoping this forces the team to let go of Callahan, let another team overpay him.

 

[Off Sides]

Actually it's less as has already been pointed out. And the NMC may or may not be an issue...5 years from now.

But it could also be for a lesser goalie as he ages, not all players stay the same.

 

[Beacon]

Does this seal Richards career with the Rangers? Can they afford both next year, or is he gone for sure now?

Richards is gone because otherwise they can't re-sign Girardi and Callahan.

 

[Machinehead]

Hank at $8.5M and no Callahan > Hank at $7.5M and Callahan at $6M. All day every day.

I'm hoping this forces the team to let go of Callahan, let another team overpay him.

I agree with you. But if you really think this team is getting rid of Callahan you're dreaming. The organization adores Callahan.

 

[OverTheCap]

I'm still not sure how the Rangers would be better off without Hank so long as Sather is at the helm. He wouldn't allow the Rangers to rebuild and instead he would throw money at Vanek, Marleau, or whatever free agents are available this summer. They would probably underperform and not have nearly the same impact as Hank.

Once again, the main issue to me appears to be Sather/management and not so much Lundqvist's cap hit.

 

[TonyTheGr8]

People seriously make me laugh here. They really would rather the Rangers just let Henrik leave. They have no appreciation whatsoever for what he has done for this team and this franchise.

 

[Raspewtin]

Hank at $8.5M and no Callahan > Hank at $7.5M and Callahan at $6M. All day every day.

I'm hoping this forces the team to let go of Callahan, let another team overpay him.

Yeah I gotta say I watch Callahan play, and I LOVE the guy, but every game I don't want him resigned more and more.

ESPECIALLY at the godawful price tag of $6 mill