McIlrath even was billed as having some upside beyond what people remember
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Can you honestly tell me he was a high ceiling guy? I don't think he was ever that.
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I saw it totally differently. Looks like he hit him shoulder to jaw. Predatory, eh but it looked bad to me and I wouldn't be surprised if he got five games.
JESSEWENEEDTOCOOK
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People tried to say he could be Weber but I think that was trying to make the best out of a bad situation lol
McIlrath pick was a f***ing joke the moment it was made and everyone but Clark and the Rangers knew it
That could be, I was just watching it on my phone while waiting for my wife to finish physical therapy, LOL. It just looked like he was lining up a hit but mistimed it, and ended up out in front of the guy and kind of leaned back into him. Looked like he was definitely trying to get his body into him but not like he was targeting the head or anything.
Again though, could be wrong. I'm still on my phone. I will watch it tomorrow and reserve the right to change my mind, haha.
Amazing Kreiderman
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Higher than people made it out to be on draft day, not as high as others. Dangling through defenses isn't what makes a player a high ceiling prospect
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I don’t really buy this concept completely to be honest. I think a bias towards top end flashy skills are seen as ‘high potential’ and guys playing at a little higher levels early are seen as ‘low potential’ or if they are a little less flashy.
But in the NHL, that top end ability is only a fraction of what sets players apart. Some of the best shooters, stickhandlers and playmakers doesn’t even make it to the NHL. It’s getting to use that top end ability that is the big challenge.
On top of that, hockey is a very complex sport. It’s to team sports what decathlon is to track and field sports. It’s fully comparable to any other sport in how complex it is without the skating, and with the skating it just pushes back the age it takes to reach prime level a good number of years.
All kids are a long way off from being top guys in the NHL, all kids must develop a ton. I don’t really agree that Lias had low potential for any other reason than his skating holding him back. If he moved better I think he easily could have become a center that plays high up the lineup with very talented linemates. The mistake made was misjudging his skating, but more than anything else, rushing him to the NHL at 18.
Maybe his skating wasn't as bad as our fans thought. If he was staying up all night playing video games, not getting sleep, was a mental, stressed out mess, I don't see how he would have his skating legs for any game. Fans judging his skating really have no creditability. What you find on these boards is that posters think they are professional scouts who know how to analyze a prospect when in reality they don't have any clue how to do that. If they did, they would be on an NHL payroll. If you go back and read Lias scouting reports, none of them said he was a bad skater. They all said he was a strong skater.
"Andersson is a strong skater. He has an excellent first step along with very good acceleration and top-end speed. He can get in quickly on the fore check, and is very effective at tracking down loose pucks. Andersson also shows good edge work and agility, allowing him to avoid defenders, and to make quick changes of direction and beat defenders when working the cycle game. He also has good balance on his skates and strength in his lower body."
"The things that stand out for me are most obviously his speed, his puck control and his all-around smarts."
What I would worry about is getting him back into the fold. Not his skating.
"Andersson is a strong skater. He has an excellent first step along with very good acceleration and top-end speed. He can get in quickly on the fore check, and is very effective at tracking down loose pucks. Andersson also shows good edge work and agility, allowing him to avoid defenders, and to make quick changes of direction and beat defenders when working the cycle game. He also has good balance on his skates and strength in his lower body."
"The things that stand out for me are most obviously his speed, his puck control and his all-around smarts."
What I would worry about is getting him back into the fold. Not his skating.
Andersson should stay in Europe. he is the next Jarkko Immonen. great pick for a 7th overall bust. not an North American pro in my opinion. he will have a better career in Europe.
Except that he was never considered low ceiling. Ever.
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this conclusion is based on what, please?
the 160 minutes he played last Oct/Nov, when his TOI exceeded 13 minutes only once?
Maybe he's staying over there because we have clowns like this in our fan base.
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im not a fan that quits on his team, it is not like it was family related and if it was, he should have said something. Andersson seems like a quiter to me. he needs to grow up. Chytil did not do what he did. Chytil is a man, Andersson is a baby
Pajuniemi was scoreless. Played almost 20 minutes.
Aaltonen was scoreless in just 9 minutes.
Ragnarsson scoreless and only played 10 minutes.
Lindbom stopped 23/26 and got the win.
First game for all those guys.
Aaltonen was scoreless in just 9 minutes.
Ragnarsson scoreless and only played 10 minutes.
Lindbom stopped 23/26 and got the win.
First game for all those guys.
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I think there is way more behind the scenes than we initially anticipated. Think he recently said he had a mental health issue that needed to be resolved.
eco's bones
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People wanted Andersson to be a center but IMO his skating simply isn't up to it. Maybe slightly better than Derek Stepan but Stepan made up for it because of great positioning and high IQ. To me Lias's best pathway to a successful NHL career is on the wing. He simply doesn't cover enough ground fast enough. By contrast Chytil is an excellent and graceful skater who does cover a lot of ground.
In the 19-20 training camp however Lias had picked up some quickness. That went south though apparently there was some kind of foot injury. Still think even with improved skating Lias belongs on the wing.
In the 19-20 training camp however Lias had picked up some quickness. That went south though apparently there was some kind of foot injury. Still think even with improved skating Lias belongs on the wing.
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A lot of people don't get that anyone can have a mental health problem. There are a shitton of things that can bring these issues on and sometimes when left to fester or hidden away they can have serious ramifications. I'm thinking of Lyashenko for one. That hit the Rangers from out of nowhere. I don't doubt that Lias was depressed about how things were going with the Rangers last year and sometimes you have do a thing that takes you to a happier place and he seems happier where he is now.
Chytil sucks beyond belief on faceoffs and if he doesn't improve, he will never play center in this league.
Tawnos
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Replace Chytil with Hayes and you’re posting what’s been posted on this board before, word for word.
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Could it be that Benoit Alaire really did see great potential in Lindbom? All of a sudden he’s health and winning! Let’s Go Rangers!
Cag29
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He’s only 20/21? He’s young be patient. He has a lot of good points as well. A window on his character - when sent down he worked his ads off with a great attitude to get back up to the big team and he played well. Let’s be patient and see how he does with better line mates this season!
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Pajuniemi only had 2 shifts. He left the game early with a knee injury. Did not look good
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