Rangers Prospect Ranking: (Winter 2020) - #4

[The Crypto Guy]

Ranger's Winter 2020 Prospect Ranking

1. Kaapo Kakko (F) (2019 Draft - 1st round) (Not Ranked)
2. Igor Shestyorkin (G) (2014 Draft - 4th round) (+1)
3 . Adam Fox (D) (2016 Draft - 3rd round) (+2)

Added: Yegor Rykov




Please tell me who you want added:

Last	First	Position
Aaltonen	Leevi	F
Barron	Morgan	F
Ciccolini	Eric	RW
Crawley	Brandon	LD
Day	Sean	LD
Edstrom	Adam	F
Elmer	Jake	RW
Fontaine	Gabriel	F
Gettinger	Tim	LW
Gropp	Ryan	LW
Gross	Nico	LD
Hajek	Libor	LW
Henriksson	Karl	C
Hughes	Riley	RW
Huska	Adam	G
Keane	Joey	RD
Kjellberg	Simon	LD
Leedahl	Dawson	LD
Lettieri	Vinni	F
Lindbom	Olof	G
Nanne	Tyler	D/F
Newell	Patrick	F
Pajuniemi	Lauri	RW
Raddysh	Darren	RD
Ragnarsson	Jacob	LD
Reunanen	Tarmo	LD
Robertson	Matthew	LD
Ronning	Ty	RW
Sjalin	Calle	LD
Skinner	Hunter	RD
Wall	Tyler	G

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[cwede]

add Huska, despite the goalie glut.
Performing well as a rookie pro G is impressive,
Hartford is producing above their 'on paper' talent,
- never more than 2 genuine D prospects dressed at a time,
- no real standout at F since Chytil recall,
thanks to Huska, not much dropoff when Czar not in net

 

[Edge]

Kravtsov for the boom potential, though Lundkvist is a very, very steady prospect who until now has never quite received the recongition he deserves.

Add Keane.

 

[Edge]

add Huska, despite the goalie glut.
Performing well as a rookie pro G is impressive,
Hartford is producing above their 'on paper' talent,
- never more than 2 genuine D prospects dressed at a time,
- no real standout at F since Chytil recall,
thanks to Huska, not much dropoff when Czar not in net

He's good, but Keane is a rookie who is also one of our two allstar reps.

 

[Beer League Sniper]

Lundkvist, mainly due to recent history.

To be honest, it's very close between all these players, as I tend to value NHL experience heavily versus upside. For me, it's (in order):
Lundkvist
Kravstov
Miller
Lindgren
Rykov
Jones

Add Keane. The kid's an AHL All-Star as a 20 year old rookie. I'd personally rank him higher than Rykov and Jones, right below Lindgren.

 

[Mac n Gs]

Kravtsov, Add Keane

 

[cwede]

...
For me, it's (in order): ... Lindgren Rykov Jones
...
Add Keane. ...I'd personally rank him higher than Rykov and Jones, right below Lindgren.

doesn't much matter to me, but aren't you contradicting yourself

 

[cwede]

IMHO this trend of so many anointing Jones top 10 seems premature and suggests recency bias
Glad he has been good, but for me,
still really hard to sort out Reunanen, Jones and Robertson, among the next wave of D
and, with the mentioned nod to valuing actual NHL experience, maybe none yet deserve to be ahead of Hajek ...

 

[Beer League Sniper]

doesn't much matter to me, but aren't you contradicting yourself

I was ranking the available choices, but I can see the confusion.

 

[nyr2k2]

Kravtsov, with some hesitation.

Add Reunanen. Glut of defensemen, not really sure how to best separate them.

EDIT: Add Hajek, not Reunanen. I like the upside on the latter but feel more "sure" about Hajek.

 

[cwede]

I was ranking the available choices, but I can see the confusion.

i get it now, that was me missing the context

 

[doomscroll]

Kravtsov add Reunanen

 

[kovazub94]

Hajek got to be added / voted before Keane AINEC.

 

[NoQuitInNewMexico]

Kravtsov, add Barron

 

[Harbour Dog]

Kravtsov, add Hajek.

Tough call between him and Reunanen for me.

 

[NYR Viper]

Kravtsov add Hajek

 

[pblawr]

I went with Kravtsov, but it's really a tossup for me between him, Lundkvist, and Miller with Jones close behind.

I guess I'd add Barron, who's tied for 10th in the NCAA in PPG, wears a "C", and has gotten meaningfully better every year.

I'm not sure if he's my guy, but I think Robertson is a guy who hasn't been discussed, but should be. I have maybe a different take on him than other people having watched a few of his shift-by-shifts. I think his toolset in terms of size, skating ability, and puck skills is the best of our any defensemen other than Miller. It seems to me like he could have the skillset to be a top pairing D if he reached his ceiling. But despite the fact that he's got size, he seems to lose a lot of board battles and sometimes his effort level struck me as lacking (even early in games before he would have become tired), and despite all his offensive talent, he hasn't put up a ton of points, even with a lot of ice time. On top of that, his progression the past few years doesn't strike me as particularly impressive. I tend to weight upside heavily, so the fact that he has a ton of it makes him intriguing to me, but I also tend to value realized results and progression a lot and I wonder if he has the work habits / intensity to reach his potential.

While I like Hajek's size and skating ability, I'm still unsure his puck management will be good enough for him to be a decent NHL defenseman. Unfortunately, the results so far (only 5 points in 58 games in Hartford last year and a 37% Corsi [yikes!] this year with the worst Corsi rel on the team) seem to back up those concerns to me. Personally, I'd have him behind Barron, Lindgren, Keane, Reunanen, Robertson, and Rykov, at least.

 

[Brooklyn Rangers Fan]

Kravtsov, add Barron

+1.

 

[pblawr]

IMHO this trend of so many anointing Jones top 10 seems premature and suggests recency bias
Glad he has been good, but for me,
still really hard to sort out Reunanen, Jones and Robertson, among the next wave of D
and, with the mentioned nod to valuing actual NHL experience, maybe none yet deserve to be ahead of Hajek ...

Where would you rank Cam York if he was in our system? Because Zac Jones scored at almost the same rate as York in the USHL last year despite the fact that Jones' team scored only about half as often as York's, Jones has outscored York in the NCAA so far, and Jones directly beat out York for 5v5 and power play spots on the US WJC team.

 

[Hunter Gathers]

Kravy. Add Hajek.

 

[Leetch3]

add barron

 

[kovazub94]

Just again being Captain Obvious reminding that the ranking - as in choosing one prospect over another at a point in time is a balancing act between ceiling (whether reasonable or absolute) and how far along a prospect is toward achieving that ceiling.

 

[Rempe73]

Hajek got to be added / voted before Keane AINEC.

Um...what? Why? Am I missing something? Hajek may very well be the better prospect (though not in my opinion), but how is it not even close?

 

[kovazub94]

Um...what? Why? Am I missing something? Hajek may very well be the better prospect (though not in my opinion) but not even close?

Based on their experience, no. Hajek has proven to be NHL level. Now it's more about consistency and further development to determine whether it's 3-6/7 in the NHL. Keane is not there. He's not projected to have higher ceiling and his experience is only half season of AHL. At this POINT it's not close.

 

[cwede]

Where would you rank Cam York if he was in our system? Because Zac Jones scored at almost the same rate as York in the USHL last year despite the fact that Jones' team scored only about half as often as York's, Jones has outscored York in the NCAA so far, and Jones directly beat out York for 5v5 and power play spots on the US WJC team.

i really cant say about York, i don't follow hundreds of prospects, just the few dozen that are in NYR pipeline, or who catch my attention along the way. Yes those are compelling numbers, I am not dismissing Jones in any fashion.

i do stand by my couple of really basic statements
(a) i am glad he is doing so well
(b) if we group Fox/Lindgren/Miller/Lundkuist/Rykov as the top tier of D pipeline
i find it hard to sort between the D guys in the next tier :Hajek, Jones, Keane, Robertson, Reunanan

but i also don't think it matters that much

this is a great situation for NYR,
where Skinner, Day, Gross, Ragnarsson, Sjalin are not even top 10 in their team's pipeline at D

with another handful of signed or drafted guys (Crawley, Raddysh, Kjellberg, Nanne) so far down the totem pole they will get virtually zero consideration at all as genuine prospects