Rangers Prospect Poll - Summer 2022 - #11

[The Crypto Guy]

Rangers Summer 2022 Prospect Ranking

1. Braden Schneider (D) (2020 Draft - 1st round) (+1)
2. Vitali Kravtsov (F) (2018 Draft - 1st round) (+3)
3. Brennan Othmann (F) (2021 Draft - 1st round) (+1)
4. Nils Lundkvist (D) (2018 Draft - 1st round) (-3)
5. Zac Jones (D) (2019 Draft - 3rd round) (-2)

6. Brett Berard (F) (2020 Draft - 5th round) (E)​

7. Matthew Robertson (D) (2019 Draft - 2nd round) (+1)
8. Will Cuylle (F) (2020 Draft - 2nd round) (+1)
9. Dylan Garand (G) (2020 Draft - 4th round) (+1)
10. Adam Sykora (F) (2022 Draft - 2nd round) (n/a)

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Added: Hunter Skinner (D) & Lauri Pajuniemi (F)​

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Left to be added:​

Aaltonen, Leevi (F)
Boyko, Talyn (G)
Chmelař, Jaroslav (F)
Ciccolini, Eric (F)
Edström, Adam (F)
Emberson, Ty (D)
Grubbe, Jayden (F)
Henriksson, Karl (F)
Hughes, Riley (F)
Karpa, Zakary (F)
Kempf, Hank (D)
Khodorenko, Patrick (F)
Kjellberg, Simon (D)
Laba, Noah (F)
Lindbom, Olof (G)
Lamb, Brody (F)
Mancini, Victor (D)
Ollas, Hugo (G)
Rempe, Matt (F)
Rueschhoff, Austin (F)
Scanlin, Brandon (D)
Tärnström, Oliver (F)
Väisänen, Kalle (F)

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[Amazing Kreiderman]

This is a tough one between Korczak, Trivigno and McConnell-Barker. I went with Trivigno.

Add(am) Edström

 

[The Crypto Guy]

Going with BMB, I expect him to have a monster D+1 year now that he will be on the 1st line. Bobby next after him.

 

[Fitzy]

BMB is my final guy in the "B" tier of NYR prospects so I'll go with him here.

Add Henriksson. Maybe the kid has a long shot of adjusting positively to NA ice. Everyone left on the add list is a below 5% chance lottery ticket however. We don't have many "C" prospects outside of Skinner and Paju

 

[Savant]

Voted Trivigno because he is probably closest. Don’t think a lot separating him from others here though. Him or BMB is fine here.

Add Edstrom because I think he could have a role NHL level as opposed to others.

 

[pblawr]

Add Emberson.

I haven't been able to watch him as much, but he strikes me as being at a similar level to Robertson and Skinner, who are already up there. He played on the US WJC team and wore an "A" on the US U18 team and the "C" as a Junior at Wisconsin. I remember thinking he was very solid and dependable when I watched Miller at Wisconsin. Seems like he has some Lindgren to him in terms of his physicality and compete level.

This quote from the Head Coach of the USNTDP U18 stands out "He's not the most glamorous pick in this NHL Draft," Seth Appert, head coach of USA Hockey's National Team Development Program U18 team told the Eau Claire Leader-Telegram. "But I guarantee you he will be playing at the NHL level a lot longer than guys picked ahead of him." (Emberson Plans to Hone Skills at Wisconsin)

Going out on a limb here, but came close to lobbying for Ollas. I think we are pretty close to the point where the remaining guys aren't that likely to make it and don't have a ton of upside. Ollas is better than that. He seems to be tracking to be an NHL player:

- Got 2 SHL games as a U19. Almost every other goalie that has done that in the last 10 years has played NHL games or seems very likely too (Gustavsson, Wallstedt, Alnefelt, Sandstrom, Johansson, Ullmark, and Hogberg are 7 of the 10, excluding Ollas)
- His .920 save percentage was the highest of any U20 goalie in the NCAA last year. That's better than Oettinger was at the same age, and not that far behind Demko (.925) or Spencer Knight (.932).

I'm not arguing that he should be above any of the really legit prospects that we have, but compared to the other guys...It seems like he's got a pretty decent chance of being an NHL player and given our track record of developing goalies, he probably has more upside than anyone else left at this point too.

 

[Kendo]

Went BMB. Could be the steal of the 3rd round.

Gonna go out on a limb and say add Emberson.

 

[hackeyman]

I'm going with Bobby Eye Brows all the way.

 

[cwede]

add Boyko or Henriksson

 

[Clark Kellogg]

add future NY Ranger 3rd line Centre, Jayden Grubbe

 

[bernmeister]

skinner underrated

 

[JimmyG89]

Went Trivigno. BMB and Korczak have 2C upside, but it's too soon to see if they could realize that potential. Not sure Trivigno has more than 3rd line upside, but that is still valuable, especially the type of player he is. Might be looking at a Carl Hagelin type.

Add Lamb. Not an outstanding season in the USHL, but probably has the highest upside out of anyone not listed.

 

[Beer League Sniper]

Went with BMB, but it was pretty much a toss-up between him and Trivigno. Korczak is a cut below, IMO.

Add Edstrom.

 

[bernmeister]

Not looking to crap over anyone, esp if they don't deserve it, but polite, serious ask: are we going high on BMB etc b'c too much shiny new toy syndrome?

Skinner + LP, would be nice to see more, but tell it like it is, their paths are blocked atm by Trouba + bread, respectively.

If BMB legit IS > these guys, I'm happy to hear it.
But someone pls make the case, let's have informative discussion, thanks.

 

[cwede]

Not looking to crap over anyone, esp if they don't deserve it, but polite, serious ask: are we going high on BMB etc b'c too much shiny new toy syndrome?
Skinner + LP, would be nice to see more, but tell it like it is, their paths are blocked atm by Trouba + bread, respectively.
If BMB legit IS > these guys, I'm happy to hear it.
But someone pls make the case, let's have informative discussion, thanks.

my response to that, is that, after the more obviously distinguished guys, we are all guessing about all of them

Skinner has bounced from team to team since draft (i dont' mean that in a bad way) but hasn't really grabbed an impact spot w Pack, often dressing as a 12th F

Pajuniemi, no one knows yet if his game will translate to the NA pros

every other guy not yet picked projects similarly 'gray'

BMB had a solid, top 6 rookie OHL season at 17, after a strong age 16 season, and has some size

i have hopes a s well for many others, beyond the 6 we choose from today, from Boyko to Henriksson to Edstrom to Grubbe ...
but the evidence for any of them is not undeniable or compelling

 

[TheDirtyH]

I said BMB because I like the upside there.

I'd add Henriksson. I still like this kid and think he'll do better on NA ice than overseas.

 

[Beer League Sniper]

BMB had a solid season buried behind some overagers. Those guys are all gone, and it's his team to inherit.

He's primed for an increased role and bigger minutes. As much as I like Trivigno (and will vote for him next), BMB is 4.5 years younger and already has an NHL frame.

 

[nyr2k2]

We're getting to the phase of the voting where you have guys that are like scratch-off tickets with a 10% chance of winning $50 and other guys are the like more expensive tickets where you have a 2% chance of winning $200. Do you want the better odds, or do you want the bigger potential payout? I like Pajuniemi, and I think he was decent in his first NA pro season. I think he has an okay chance at seeing NHL action if he decides he wants to stay here. Then you've got BMB, who in my opinion has greater potential, even if he's less likely (at this time) to reach that potential. If someone offered me Pajuniemi or BMB, I'd take BMB--I just like the potential of him over Pajuniemi's floor, at this point.

That's where we're at--likely passing over a guy who has been a decent AHL pro for another guy who may never even reach that level of success, but has the intriguing upside.

 

[redwhiteandblue]

I personally went Trivigno because he is closer to NHL-ready which despite age makes him a better prospect right now. I think he's a solid bet to hit a bottom-six winger, whereas god knows what can happen with BMB.

I'm excited for BMB and he definitely has a higher ceilling, but that's what moved the needle for me.

 

[bernmeister]

We're getting to the phase of the voting where you have guys that are like scratch-off tickets with a 10% chance of winning $50 and other guys are the like more expensive tickets where you have a 2% chance of winning $200. Do you want the better odds, or do you want the bigger potential payout? I like Pajuniemi, and I think he was decent in his first NA pro season. I think he has an okay chance at seeing NHL action if he decides he wants to stay here. Then you've got BMB, who in my opinion has greater potential, even if he's less likely (at this time) to reach that potential. If someone offered me Pajuniemi or BMB, I'd take BMB--I just like the potential of him over Pajuniemi's floor, at this point.

That's where we're at--likely passing over a guy who has been a decent AHL pro for another guy who may never even reach that level of success, but has the intriguing upside.

analysis is well said

 

[Hunter Gathers]

We're getting to the phase of the voting where you have guys that are like scratch-off tickets with a 10% chance of winning $50 and other guys are the like more expensive tickets where you have a 2% chance of winning $200. Do you want the better odds, or do you want the bigger potential payout? I like Pajuniemi, and I think he was decent in his first NA pro season. I think he has an okay chance at seeing NHL action if he decides he wants to stay here. Then you've got BMB, who in my opinion has greater potential, even if he's less likely (at this time) to reach that potential. If someone offered me Pajuniemi or BMB, I'd take BMB--I just like the potential of him over Pajuniemi's floor, at this point.

That's where we're at--likely passing over a guy who has been a decent AHL pro for another guy who may never even reach that level of success, but has the intriguing upside.

This is exactly the way I view it with non-NHL guys. If there's a guy that got some NHL time and looked good at the NHL level, I'll generally put them above non-NHL guys unless they are like can't miss prospects. Looking good at the NHL level is just so hard.