Confirmed with Link: Rangers extend D Will Borgen

[ArPanet]

What would his cap hit be in Florida dollars?

 

[KirkAlbuquerque]

I think it’s fine, Mancini didn’t look close when up here, Emery is going to take years, Fortescue should start in Hartford, and has no offense to his game either.

Would be nice to acquire/draft a dman that has some offense in his game eventually though.

Nah we don’t do that there

 

[NickyFotiu]

awesome - I didnt know the details


yup agreed - people just love to complain i guess. main boards is a cesspool of people saying its one of the worst contracts in the league lol

LOL the mainboard has said almost every NYR move is bad for decades.

 

[nyr2k2]

I understand the fear of getting burned on a sample but imagine if they locked Stralman up immediately.

Right. The thing with Borgen is he was good before. He was having a bad year with Seattle but it's not as if this current level of play came out of nowhere.

He was heading to UFA. If he continued to play well and then hit the market, I would wager that someone would pay him even more than what we did. As has been stated by many, with the cap going up it's very possible this contract becomes a bargain.

 

[effen]

Because Vince “heard” something?

Vince never tracks rumors with any specificity, so if he says this it's as good as a press release.

 

[Machinehead]

Right. The thing with Borgen is he was good before. He was having a bad year with Seattle but it's not as if this current level of play came out of nowhere.

He was heading to UFA. If he continued to play well and then hit the market, I would wager that someone would pay him even more than what we did. As has been stated by many, with the cap going up it's very possible this contract becomes a bargain.

To me, it's pretty low risk. The main boards is acting like he got a supermax.

Worst case scenario, they get rid of him. They just moved a worse player on a worse contract.

 

[Cmox]

LOL the mainboard has said almost every NYR move is bad for decades.

I was going to say, I've never once saw or heard the main boards say anything positive in regards to the Rangers, haha

 

[GlasgowNewYorkRanger]

I just wish we would stop handing out trade protection for average to middling players like it was sweeties.

If that was the difference or not between him signing, to a big market (should-be-competitive) team in NYC, I am sure we could have survived without Borgen.

 

[hardnosed]

I would feel a whole lot better about this if Borgen was a LD. Then things would be crystal clear. Now something needs to be done with Schneider because he can't be 3 RD forever. And paying your 3 RDs $18 million in a couple years doesn't seem possible with a $11 plus million goalie. Hope Schneider moves to LD.

 

[GAGLine]

I just wish we would stop handing out trade protection for average to middling players like it was sweeties.

If that was the difference or not between him signing, to a big market (should-be-competitive) team in NYC, I am sure we could have survived without Borgen.

And then you sign someone else, and that player wants protection, only they probably have more leverage to get it.

The protection on Borgen's contract is a non-factor. It's an NMC for one year, then it drops every year until there's no protection in the final year.

 

[TGWL]

I didn't need a 5 year deal here. If you want to give 5 years, this could have waited. Also, giving trade clause after a few weeks is just absurd to me, especially for Borg. We don't have to hand them out to everyone.

 

[nyr2k2]

And then you sign someone else, and that player wants protection, only they probably have more leverage to get it.

The protection on Borgen's contract is a non-factor. It's an NMC for one year, then it drops every year until there's no protection in the final year.

I looked at PuckPedia and of the 720 NHL players they list, 243 have some form of trade protection at the moment. That number has been steadily increasing over the years and will only grow higher in the future, unless there are changes bargained in the CBA or teams collude to stop giving them out.

If you include goalies it's 267 of 792 players.

 

[effen]

To me, it's pretty low risk. The main boards is acting like he got a supermax.

Worst case scenario, they get rid of him. They just moved a worse player on a worse contract.

Main boards criteria:
1) was he a 1st round pick
Yes? Great extension to lock in prime years with more upside
No? Overpaid

 

[GoAwayPanarin]

Main boards criteria:
1) was he a 1st round pick
Yes? Great extension to lock in prime years with more upside
No? Overpaid

This is hilariously accurate.

 

[effen]

Bonus criteria for defensemen:

Does he regularly score 30 points or more?
If yes - great deal, underrated transition game
If no - overpaid

 

[17futurecap]

I also think Drury wanted to sign a dman last summer if the Trouba contract was moved out. I feel like the beat mentioned Dillon as having interest last summer, and he went to the Devils for 4 million a year for only 3 years, but he is older.

 

[mas0764]

This organization can’t get rid of Drury fast enough.

 

[Kodiak]

I looked at PuckPedia and of the 720 NHL players they list, 243 have some form of trade protection at the moment. That number has been steadily increasing over the years and will only grow higher in the future, unless there are changes bargained in the CBA or teams collude to stop giving them out.

If you include goalies it's 267 of 792 players.

Players are only eligible for trade protection in their UFA years. So if you look at players that are 27 or older, it’s actually 433 skaters and 52 goaltenders. It looking like pretty much any contract covering UFA years will have trade protection, unless it’s a player with no leverage that is looking for a spot anywhere.

 

[GAGLine]

Players are only eligible for trade protection in their UFA years. So if you look at players that are 27 or older, it’s actually 433 skaters and 52 goaltenders. It looking like pretty much any contract covering UFA years will have trade protection, unless it’s a player with no leverage that is looking for a spot anywhere.

Exactly. Only the worst UFAs get no protection. And as I've said repeatedly, Borgen's protection is a non-factor. Only next season does he have an NMC, and if we are looking to trade him next season, the entire contract is a screw up irrespective of the trade protection.

In 2 years, it becomes a 10-team list. That's not enough to stop us from trading him if we want to.

 

[TheDirtyH]

8 year Vaak extension incoming

NMC the first three years

 

[jerseyjinx94]

Borgen at 4.1M with a $100M cap is fine 3RD $. I’m not worried about it at all. Keep him around he’s a good locker room guy and a good player. I wanted him at like 3.5 so it’s a little higher but whatever

 

[TheDirtyH]

Right. The thing with Borgen is he was good before. He was having a bad year with Seattle but it's not as if this current level of play came out of nowhere.

He was heading to UFA. If he continued to play well and then hit the market, I would wager that someone would pay him even more than what we did. As has been stated by many, with the cap going up it's very possible this contract becomes a bargain.

Becomes a what now? @will1066

 

[RangersFan]

Fox, Schneider and Borgen should all be getting reps at the left side. Someone has to play their offside for the next few years.

 

[Jack Hanson]

He drives a tough borgen.

 

[TheDirtyH]

The real interesting question will be that if UFA Borgen gets 4.1x5 what's his partner's extension look like?