It's not wrong. He has not been "run into the ground". He has actually had an extremely light workload over the past month+. People seem to respond by questioning whether he can handle or talking about the difficulties of a normal workload, which really has nothing to do with it.
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Racer88
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Surprisingly, Rangers can quickly turned around the table and played crazy good hockey, leafs played meh, not that well.
Canes rebuilt so well, they didn't spent that much money like Toronto. Watched Canes hammered B's 7:1 two days ago, they are like being doped every players on the ice.
RunItBackAgain
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You said Sandin was “reading the play” off the draw. He stood there the entire time and did **** all. This was a completely dog trash game from the D and even the forwards supporting the D.
And to everyone saying Campbell getting outworked? Are you high? He’s played like 5 games in the past month!
We are soft as butter and if we don’t change the way we play the game we stand zero chance in the playoffs.
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I don't think it's the coach, the Leafs have played fairly well under Keefe compared to Babcock.
It was refreshing to hear him call out the exact issue that has plagued this team in the playoffs, team plays soft and without a purpose, when a team forechecks hard and battles the Leafs put their tail between their legs, they don't rise up and battle back, not doing the little things consistently has cost them in the playoffs.
Racer88
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Every dam team has been dealing with COVID issues. The Leafs are not alone in that.
They have faced some very depleted opposition and lost.
I’m glad that some of the stats number give you comfort but the fact remains that the Leafs have been a .500 team the last 5 games with no evidence they are putting in any afford to change it.
Even their coach thinks they are soft and purposeless.
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He repeatedly failed in post season
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By saying that, at least he didn't convince and prove me he is the right guy behind bench. Rod of Canes proved, so did Coper
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Simply put you are wrong.
Run into the ground is not ONLY hockey terminology.
The term "run into the ground" can be viewed as physical exhaustion or mental fatigue.
You also fail to understand that "running someone into the ground" is not a fixed number of games or fixed amount of emotional stress. It's different for every human on this earth, some guys can play 82 games and be a fit as a fiddle other guys see a performance drop after a much lower # of games.
For some people, 82 games and low stress easy cheesy, while the same person 30 games and high stress and they are cooked. The reason why I asked you if you spoke with Jack or the team doctors, is you from 30,000 feet cant make an assessment on a person physical or mental state. You can make assumptions, which is what you've done. At the end of the day, they are just that, an assumption based on your bias. Which is faulty at best.
I've attempted to politely educate you on this point but for whatever reason fail to "get it" . I'm done repeating simple logic over and over again and I'm done with you and this part of this thread.
What have the Canes won? They can win a round and get bounced, if that is the success level you want, kind of disappointing.
The leafs were losing most of the puck battles which has been a constant theme of this team since Lou left. That still needs to be addressed. Aside from that their defensive positioning was simply brutal and there was far too many turnovers. I think Liljegren has potential but he’s just not ready for a top four role. I’m not sure Sandin is either. These guys are still experiencing growing pains. The absence of Muzzin and Holl was very noticeable in this game.
The leafs D likely requires an upgrade or a first round exit is inevitable yet again.
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Just sayin', I thought the Leafs were giving up a ton of quality chances for quite awhile now but they were outscoring it and outgoaltending it. I see the recent slide as things kinda catching up with them. Think of how many goals against lately have been point blank shots from a trailing winger left wide open to take a pass through the slot or from behind the net. They have to tighten that up and fix whatever's in their collective cranium that makes them quit with the lead. Campbell hasn't been great but I don't see how we can lay the blame on him.
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You're completely ignoring what I said about the mental pressures of the job and IMHO, it's extremely naive to not think that's a potential issue here. All our players are under the microscope in this city and nobody more so than the starting goalie. And there's never been more pressure than now, after all these years of playoff failures and he's also pretty much on his own. I haven't looked at the numbers but I'd bet there are very few goalies who have played such a huge percentage of their teams games this season.
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This is why we need a top end goalie. It's been this way for years. odd-man rushes, quality in-close chances......
Completely agree that the grind can get to a keeper and Campbell is really in uncharted territory right now. I really didnt think he had it in him to do these minutes but he's overall proved me wrong this year and I'm fairly confident he can keep it together. I'm just happy he still appears to be physically able to hold up to the load.
Campbell ranks 7th for TOI right now and, despite his recent slump, is still rocking a .930 save%.
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IMO Soup's play to the end of the year masked some of the issues we have on D. Now that teams are starting to ramp it up, and Soup has returned down to earth some, the warts on D are visible. You are not winning the Cup with Muzzin and Holl as your shutdown pair and two small dmen on your bottom pair.
As opposed to never winning a round? I think most would agree some winning is better than no winning, but you’re entitled to your opinion.
The Canes actually showed well against the Bolts last year, Jon Cooper had plenty of praise… Ned is a sieve and it cost them.
They added a top 10 goalie in the off-season so it’ll be interesting to see how they manage when goaltending isn’t their achilles heel as it’s been with both Ned, Mrazek, and the list goes on.
Only good news is top 8 teams in East are pretty much set .. unless 1 team falls off earth and Isles go on a solid run I can't see anything changing .. I hope things stay close and near end of season we can determine who we play round 1 .. for sure best to avoid Tampa and Canes .. those 2 teams I think are best 2 and knock us off asap .. the others aren't gonna be easy but I think we got a fighters chance
ToneDog
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Unless Dubas can make this team less "soft" by the TDL, this team will be easy prey to Lightning, Panthers or Canes. Finishing first is almost a must and I think Leafs management sees it this way.
Check out da hammer fists by Chara .. dude has hands of stone still
Unless our D is fixed ToneDog I can't see it occurring .. it will be 1st round and out .. then Dubie replaced and retool starts in TO
The guys not losing that giant strength due to age and hes gotta massive reach advantage on everyone. Props to anyone who even steps up to him.
ToneDog
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Don't recall which radio host but they mentioned getting Chara at the TDL. He'd be the perfect #6 if he were a couple of years younger.
Expected goals against/60 this year: 5th best in the NHL
Goals against: 5th best in the NHL
Team save%: 7th in the NHL
Felt the loss of big bodies at the back last night and some rookie mistakes led to goals.
Despite having a very uneven year, Muzzin/Holl arnt exactly a tire fire like many are making out.
Whats really strange is that team D is ranked top 5 in the league above goaltending on the Leafs....strange in that so many here seem to the team D is bad for some reason.
Goals against: 5th best in the NHL
Team save%: 7th in the NHL
Felt the loss of big bodies at the back last night and some rookie mistakes led to goals.
Despite having a very uneven year, Muzzin/Holl arnt exactly a tire fire like many are making out.
Whats really strange is that team D is ranked top 5 in the league above goaltending on the Leafs....strange in that so many here seem to the team D is bad for some reason.
If Isles are out of chase in a month then if I was Dubie I would go get him as a 6th for a playoff run .. exactly what we need on defense .. and every single guy on Bruins is sacred sh*tless of him .. as soon as Bruins start to run Rielly which they will do again as it worked for them in past .. all it will take is Coyle to get knocked unconscious with a hammer fist and no one else on Bruins will attempt .. although my only question to Chara before trade would be can he do it to former good friends
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