Quick -- WCF

[Axl Rhoadz]

I don't have the stats in front of me, but could that have been Quick's worst series in the last two years? I have to wonder what would have happened had he come up big like we are accustomed to.

Game 2, he's pulled after a couple questionable goals...

Game 4, he allows that softie by Bickell that ties up the game

Game 5, first goal is horrible, and what the hell was he doing on that 2nd goal??

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[LAKings88]

Chicago is in his head. Would help if LA had an offense that showed up.

 

[Thrice]

Chicago is a great offensive team.

It also looked like fatigue set in and took a huge toll during and after the back-to-back. Remember, he was excellent in game 1.

 

[Deleted member 93010]

You can only carry an entire team on your back for so long. He was worn down.

 

[takk]

I don't want to go there but there was that moronic thread on main boards suggesting Quick basically had another Smythe in his pocket. That idiot who started it may take this as I'm saying Quick performed poorly because of that thread, but my point is you shouldn't go around bragging about your goalie just after the halfway point.

We didn't lose the series because of Quick but his shortcomings are certainly a reason why we couldn't compete with the Hawks any longer.

 

[BigBrown]

He was due for a couple of bad ones

I don't think you really can dissect it too much, sometimes you're simply gonna have some bad breaks.

 

[KingsFan7824]

Can't give up multiple, clearly seen goals from the blueline against Chicago. That just can't happen. Not when the Kings can't score.

You knew Chicago would do those cross ice passes on the rush in the Kings zone, because how many times have they done it against the Kings? How many times did the Sharks do it in 2011? Happened on both game winning goals in Game 4 and 5 against Chicago. That's why he couldn't let in those blueline shots.

Gave up 14 goals in 5 games against the Hawks. Two were the long ones from the blueline, and then whatever happened on the icing/non-icing goal last night. Take those 3 out, that's 11 goals in 5 games. That's not terrible against a skilled and fast team. Who knows how history plays out if you change a few variables, but, you can't give Chicago free goals.

 

[ScoreZeGoals]

When a guy carries you through two whole series, you would hope the team could pick him up once or twice if he is off his game. They couldn't because of injuries and fatigue and our season is over

 

[Ron*]

Some posters here don't have a real temperature on the team. Maybe they only follow half-ass wise, or they are biased, or for some other unfathomable reason.

For anyone to criticize a player who got us this far (and no one else did...when your leading goal scorer in the playoffs is a second-year defenseman, you know you got issues), that's just plain ignorant.

If it wasn't for Quick, we don't even make the playoffs last year.

If it wasn't for Quick, we don't even get close to getting past St. Louis.

If it wasn't for Quick, we don't even get close to getting past San Jose.

And if it wasn't for Quick, I absolutely HATE to think what some of the final scores in this series would have been.

 

[agentfouser]

As others have said, Quick was due; his numbers in the first two series were unsustainable, and so giving up a few soft goals could be simply regression to the mean.

However, I think it's also worth pointing out that the Hawks' superior speed and skill allowed them to penetrate the Kings' defense in ways that San Jose and certainly St. Louis were much less able to do. San Jose would often enter the zone, and even beat a defender coming out of the corner or from the point, but our defensive structure in front of the net generally remained intact. Thus, Quick saw the shots better, and didn't have to stop as many second or third chances. Chicago, on the other hand, seemed better able to move the puck and beat defenders well enough to throw off the whole structure. Look at Kane's first goal last night: sure, that was a misplay on a non-icing, but the Kings' defense totally broke down and Kane had all the room in the world to find an open net. That didn't happen against San Jose or St. Louis.

 

[kingsholygrail]

He still made a lot of big saves even in the games he didn't play as well in. That save on Oduya last night was unreal, even had the commentator guys at a loss for words(they thought Oduya flubbed it). Fact is, Quick faced an extra amount of shots against Chicago in most of the games and it showed.

 

[KingsFan7824]

If it wasn't for Quick, we don't even get close to getting past St. Louis.

Probably should've been a 4 game sweep by the Blues. Other than OT in Game 1, and the 3rd period of Game 4, the Kings were barely hanging on from whistle to whistle. Quick kept them within a shot for almost every minute of the series, and the Kings scored on almost every mistake St.Louis made, and they didn't make too many.

 

[jml87]

Game 2 was bad, but the other games were not all that horrible. He let up a couple questionable goals which is something that other goalies do all the time, we just aren't used to seeing it from Quick. Still, he made some outstanding saves throughout the series to keep them in it.

The Kings were completely inept at defending Chicago and they couldn't score enough goals. That's why they lost. You run into a team that has that much speed and you've got players skating on one leg, it's gonna be bad. I saw tons of odd man rushes and full ice passes from the Hawks, more than I've seen in awhile.

 

[Vamos Rafa]

Unbeaten in OT last year's playoffs, winless in OT this year's playoffs.

EDIT: forgot the STL win. But yeah, we were just so vulnerable in OT this year.

 

[TonySCV]

I just think back to ALL the time Quick gave the team in front of him to score the winning goals. Tons of it. Couldn't score. He gave them a full OT and then some last night to score. No bueno.

Gave the team a chance to win every night. All you can ask. The team failing to score is the only thing that needs to be addressed this offseason.

 

[Fishhead]

Quick's playoff performance didn't concern me at all, he makes so many spectacular saves that the occasional softy isn't a big deal.

What concerns me is that they were all against the same team, one that we are going to be competing with often in the near future. Chicago seemingly has his number, and it's very possible we meet them in the WCF again in the next few years.

 

[Telos]

Yeah, he is complete and utter trash, should have had Bernier in net...

You aren't going to win **** if you can't score. Needed some players to step up, injuries and all.

Also, no that was not Quick's worst series in the last two years.

 

[jml87]

2011-2012 against Chicago .967 s%, 0.99 GAA

He had trouble against them this year but as I said, a lot of that comes from the defense in front of him. For instance, the series winning goal last night, you've got Voynov coming down too far and getting caught behind the play and then Scuderi does not cover the pass like he should, so it's a one on one battle for the goalie. I'm not gonna rag on the two them cause they played great but that's the stuff I'm talking about.

His defense was not playing like it should have. Doughty is hurt. Regehr is just slow. Muzzin is Muzzin. When Quick has to think about bailing out the defense and that possible pass, he's off his game.

 

[Shellz]

You just look like an ass if you're going to critique Quick..

 

[Axl Rhoadz]

Some posters here don't have a real temperature on the team. Maybe they only follow half-ass wise, or they are biased, or for some other unfathomable reason.

For anyone to criticize a player who got us this far (and no one else did...when your leading goal scorer in the playoffs is a second-year defenseman, you know you got issues), that's just plain ignorant.

If it wasn't for Quick, we don't even make the playoffs last year.

If it wasn't for Quick, we don't even get close to getting past St. Louis.

If it wasn't for Quick, we don't even get close to getting past San Jose.

And if it wasn't for Quick, I absolutely HATE to think what some of the final scores in this series would have been.

For Christ sake, take it easy turbo. I'm certainly not implying that I don't appreciate Quick or am not aware of what the guy has done for us.....I'm simply making an observation, that a handful of goals scored in this series was very unlike the play we are accustomed to....and especially what we had seen the previous two series. Quick doesn't allow those goals, it's a whole different series.

Quick is signed for the next 10 years, and I am thankful for that.

 

[Ziggy Stardust]

You have to accept the fact that bad goals will happen to the best of them. No goalie is going to put on a flawless performance every night, what matters is how they bounce back from bad goals.

If you've watched the game for a long time, you'll realize this. Go look at some of Patrick Roy's blunders in the playoffs. Brodeur has let in some stinkers as well. When you face as many shots as these guys do in the playoffs, every once in a while you're going to see a puck get by that leaves you questioning what the hell just happened.

 

[etherialone]

So funny.

Quick is still the best goalie in the world. He had a great playoffs again this year. No Quick no Cup and no Quick no WCF's.

Simple.

 

[The Butcher]

For Christ sake, take it easy turbo. I'm certainly not implying that I don't appreciate Quick or am not aware of what the guy has done for us.....I'm simply making an observation, that a handful of goals scored in this series was very unlike the play we are accustomed to....and especially what we had seen the previous two series. Quick doesn't allow those goals, it's a whole different series.

Quick is signed for the next 10 years, and I am thankful for that.

Yeah it's a fair thread worthy of discussion in my opinion.

Pure and simple Quick is the #1 reason for our success but I really feel like fatigued had started to creep into his game in this series. I feel like he had as much to do with the loss of that series as anything else. Hate to say it but he looked only slightly above average in those 5 games.

I have ZERO doubt in my mind that Jonathan Quick will continue to be the most mentally strong and biggest competitor on the Kings roster for next season and many seasons to follow and I wouldn't trade him for anyone.

 

[Docgonzo]

Honestly after game 2 he looked really tired, I think pulling the team through the first 2 rounds exhausted him. He wasn't as sharp and that's when we needed our O to step up but they didn't.

 

[Ron*]

For Christ sake, take it easy turbo. I'm certainly not implying that I don't appreciate Quick or am not aware of what the guy has done for us.....I'm simply making an observation, that a handful of goals scored in this series was very unlike the play we are accustomed to....and especially what we had seen the previous two series. Quick doesn't allow those goals, it's a whole different series.

Quick is signed for the next 10 years, and I am thankful for that.

Okay Sparky, thanks for the advice. I am having a relaxing, if somewhat melancholy, Sunday.