Question About Forward Motion in Shootouts

[ConnorMcMullet]

A shootout goal does not count if the puck stops going forward, correct? One thing I've always wondered is how this applies to stickhandling. The puck moves back and forth, NOT always in a forward motion. Watch this at 0.25 speed:



Is there something I'm missing?

 

[hirawl]

Very close to violating the rule at one point but still good.

Many times a lot of stickhandling can be deceptive in this regard. It may seem like the puck does not keep moving towards the goal line but most of the time it actually does. Because the player rarely stops completely but keeps gliding. A bit like jumping in a falling elevator thing. Well not really but you get the point.

 

[sandysan]

A shootout goal does not count if the puck stops going forward, correct? One thing I've always wondered is how this applies to stickhandling. The puck moves back and forth, NOT always in a forward motion. Watch this at 0.25 speed:



Is there something I'm missing?

I don't think this is correct, I think the player has to keep moving forward, you should be able to draw the puck backwards (say to avoid a poke check) so long as you keep moving forward.

 

[Oddbob]

I don't think the players should be able to go as slow as Kane and many others. It is completely unfair to the goalie when they come in and go back and forth that quick. You should have to keep a reasonable speed going or maybe a set time limit to get a shot on net. Although I would rather they got rid of the shootout all together.

 

[Drake1588]

A few people tried to play this card some years ago, and the league went ahead and altered the rule to make it so that as long as the player keeps moving forward himself, the puck's movement along that flight path is not itself grounds for having a goal disallowed. It was a very sound idea. Before they did that, all kinds of people tried to nitpick every individual deke and it was a time bomb that figured to go off at some point in a key game. At the very least, it was going to give talking heads something to natter on about forever.

In this instance, Kane slowed but he did not stop, and he did not begin moving backwards at any point. The new rule takes care of any lingering doubt about this one. It's legal, even if the player clearly pulls the puck backwards during the player's trajectory forward.

 

[Warden of the North]

What this sport definitely needs is more frame by frame analysis of poorly enlarged pucks and their placement on the ice.

 

[Oddbob]

What this sport definitely needs is more frame by frame analysis of poorly enlarged pucks and their placement on the ice.

What we really need, is them to replace the puck with a Go-Pro.

 

[Bizz]

The shootout is dumb. Adding the forward motion rule made it even dumber.

 

[Falco Lombardi]

Just eliminate the shootout. Pretty much any alternative is better, including ties.

 

[Channelcat]

The only way to fix it is to get rid of the shoot out altogether.

 

[Ryan Michaels]

I don't think the players should be able to go as slow as Kane and many others. It is completely unfair to the goalie when they come in and go back and forth that quick. You should have to keep a reasonable speed going or maybe a set time limit to get a shot on net. Although I would rather they got rid of the shootout all together.

The shootout is already so boring and you want to cut down on potential plays? I's obviously not "unfair" otherwise everyone would do it. And if it is unfair for only a handful of the league's best stickhandlers well then I want it to be uunfair.I agree that we can get rid of the shootout all together but until then I Patrick Kane doing whatever he wants.

 

[Ryan Michaels]

Also I assume this thread was inspired by Dubnyks complaints yesterday and on that he has absolutely no case. I at least see what the OP's arguing, Dubnyk is totally out to lunch.

 

[Atoyot]

The only way to fix it is to get rid of the shoot out altogether.

Wait, hear me out.
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