GDT: Quarterfinal - May 18 - Switzerland (1) vs Sweden (3)

[AussieDave27]

BRB, need to fry up some chips with all the fish I baited tonight.

 

[jj cale]

Sweden got two lucky perfect rebounds. Switzerland got one lucky bounce and one horrendous ref call.

**** sport.

Hate hockey.

Which begs the question......what are you watching for then?

 

[AussieDave27]

Which begs the question......what are you watching for then?

Self-masochism

 

[jj cale]

Self-masochism

Enjoy that.

 

[SCBdude]

Team with less than zero skill loses game by 2 goals. Horrible sport, no doubt.

Not sure if serious ....

 

[scipio]

Way to many missed chances, against sweden you have to get what you get..
Suter has been great today, the fact that he's still undrafted is a mistery

Agree with Suter. What a great player, probably too small for many NHL teams?

And really unfortunate about that "no goal" call. I don't think we would have won otherwise. But this was just a joke. As I'm not sure about the rules: could the refs review the situation in this case? Or not?

 

[Jon Riley]

Not sure if serious ....

Who cares, what matters is that this team had a lot of skills and.can only get better.
I just wish Ambhül was 10 years younger

 

[EK47]

Landeskogs line just dissappeared when Bäckström arrived

 

[21]

Swiss played a good game and is a good team, we could all see that?

Sweden and Lundqvist was little bit lucky but still the best team out there.

It will be fun facing Finland.

Wikegård analyzing: USA was terrible today, Finland didn't impress. ;-)

and also guessing it will be Sweden vs Russia in the finals.

 

[bDtKarlsson]

Landeskogs line just dissappeared when Bäckström arrived

Affected by less time on the ice? I think it's strange aswell.

 

[Jakk123]

Kudos to Switzerland, impressive tourney from your guys. And it was basically an NLA team. I can only wish our league was nearly as good.

 

[AussieDave27]

Agree with super. What a great player, probably too small for many NHL teams?

And really unfortunate about that "no goal" call. I don't think we would have won otherwise. But this was just a joke. As I'm not sure about the rules: could the refs review the situation in this case? Or not?

I believe not. The ref called the play dead, and despite doing so incorrectly too early, once the call has been made that is it. In fact, even if the whistle had not been blown the ref is able to say "I was in the process of calling the play dead and had not yet" and it would be as if the play were blown dead.

Ultimately, these kind of **** decisions are slightly a product of modern hockey.

Players just whack and whack and whack at goalies indiscriminantly until the whistle is blown. They may get a glove in the face from the defending team protecting their goalie but rarely will they get a penalty.

If you allow that then you can understand that referees will occasionally blow the play dead too early to protect the goalie.

 

[EK47]

Affected by less time on the ice? I think it's strange aswell.

I don't know I mean sure that might be part of the problem but the dropoff is to significant to disregard as just being due to less offensive opportunities

 

[ulvvf]

Swiss played a good game and is a good team, we could all see that?

Sweden and Lundqvist was little bit lucky but still the best team out there.

It will be fun facing Finland.

Wikegård analyzing: USA was terrible today, Finland didn't impress. ;-)

and also guessing it will be Sweden vs Russia in the finals.

I guess Sweden - Canada. With all respect for russia (I wish sweden had russias forwards), but i find russia to be a choker team. How many times have they not have pretty much all their best in whc but still find a way to lose. So I would bet on canada in that game.

 

[ulvvf]

The Rask line got starstruck when Bäckström arrvied.

 

[BruinLVGA]

Who cares, what matters is that this team had a lot of skills and.can only get better.
I just wish Ambhül was 10 years younger

Indeed. They played a great tournament, I am not mad in the slightest. Even tonight they held well. Sweden is just Sweden.

 

[PanniniClaus]

Switzerland generally lose to Sweden any time the chips are down.

 

[Nithoniniel]

I don't know I mean sure that might be part of the problem but the dropoff is to significant to disregard as just being due to less offensive opportunities

They were successful in the first games due to excellent movement, patience and puck support. Since then they have successively skated worse off the puck, and has apparently* been asked to address faltering performance by simplifying, foregoing even more of the style that worked for what doesn't.

They need to play close to each other, control the puck, cycle by putting the puck in areas where a linemate can go get it, and wait until breakdowns. Be patient. Instead they rush dump-ins and get a stretched out offense that doesn't really play to the strengths of Lindholm and Rask, and when they do get control of the puck they force the direct play.

* This was said in one of the intermission interviews if I remember correctly. Coach told them to simplify and just get pucks to the net, pretty much.

 

[Tomas W]

Yeah hopefully Landeskog Rask and Lindholm bounce back, will be difficult to win gold otherwise.

Anyway good game Switzerland, I though the game was pretty Even Steven. Bad luck there on the too early blown whistle, should have been 2 -3 there and who knows how it would ended from there, likely with a Sweden win still, obviously, but it would maybe change the last minutes with more pressure on Sweden.

 

[scipio]

I believe not. The ref called the play dead, and despite doing so incorrectly too early, once the call has been made that is it. In fact, even if the whistle had not been blown the ref is able to say "I was in the process of calling the play dead and had not yet" and it would be as if the play were blown dead.

Thanks for clarifying. Well, he couldn't have whistled any earlier So that would have been a bad excuse.

Blowing the whistle too early is one thing, but even with this early call the puck might have crossed the goal line beforehand. So to me this is really confusing.

I see that refs want to protect the goal keepers from unnecessary "treatment" - however only do this when the goal keeper clearly blocks the puck and not when it's not even clear where the puck is.

 

[LiveeviL]

Thanks for clarifying. Well, he couldn't have whistled any earlier So that would have been a bad excuse.

Blowing the whistle too early is one thing, but even with this early call the puck might have crossed the goal line beforehand. So to me this is really confusing.

I see that refs want to protect the goal keepers from unnecessary "treatment" - however only do this when the goal keeper clearly blocks the puck and not when it's not even clear where the puck is.

It was a bad call, that's it. But the rules are as they are. With that goal counted the game would have been an open affair again, perhaps OT.

 

[scipio]

It was a bad call, that's it. But the rules are as they are. With that goal counted the game would have been an open affair again, perhaps OT.

Oh, I totally understand that these are the rules. It's just confusing, e.g. they can check if the puck crossed the line before the end of the period, but they can't check if it crossed the line before they whistled. Probably because it's easy to check the time in connection with the TV, but much harder to do so with sound.

This was definitely one of the worst calls I have seen recently. Anyways, it is as it is. In fact after it happened, I really hoped that Switzerland wouldn't score another one and lose 3-2. Because then I would have been really pissed about that call

 

[GotTheMovesLikeJagr]

Hertzog, isn't that the name of the nazi-zombie in the norwegian comedy zombie movie "Dead Snow"?

It is! Thought about that myself earlier in this tournament.