Pronman's 2021 Redraft | HFBoards - NHL Message Board and Forum for National Hockey League

Pronman's 2021 Redraft

TheDoldrums

Registered User
May 3, 2016
12,550
22,162
Kanada

1. Matty Beniers
2. Luke Hughes
3. Owen Power
4. Mason McTavish
5. Wyatt Johnston
6. Kent Johnson
7. Simon Edvinsson
8, Matthew Knies
9. Logan Stankoven
10. Dylan Guenther
11. Brandt Clarke
12. William Eklund
13. Olen Zellweger
14. Jasper Wallstedt
15. Matt Coronato

He goes all the way to #114 with prospects that have a chance to play NHL games in his mind.
 
What has Luke Hughes done to put himself above Owen Power exactly?
Same question applies to Beniers to date.

McTavish is getting shafted in Anaheim, it’s sad to see. How a #3 pick who had a fantastic rookie year gets knocked down to play with relative scraps, and off PP1 where his shot and number one asset is most valuable, by a more recent high pick is beyond me.
 
Same question applies to Beniers to date.

McTavish is getting shafted in Anaheim, it’s sad to see. How a #3 pick who had a fantastic rookie year gets knocked down to play with relative scraps, and off PP1 where his shot and number one asset is most valuable, by a more recent high pick is beyond me.
Because he is not as good as Carlsson and he isn't as good as Johnston or Guenther
 
Same question applies to Beniers to date.

McTavish is getting shafted in Anaheim, it’s sad to see. How a #3 pick who had a fantastic rookie year gets knocked down to play with relative scraps, and off PP1 where his shot and number one asset is most valuable, by a more recent high pick is beyond me.
Carlsson has been adjudged to be by the coaches, and objectively already has been better than McTavish scoresheet notwithstanding. Zegras was moved to the wing for Carlsson's sake. McTavish is centering the second line because Carlsson fits the top line role better already. There's worse players to be playing with than Frank Vatrano and Ryan Strome even if it's not as ideal as Zegras and Terry.

I really wouldn't call it him getting shafted as much as Anaheim doesn't have better forward depth on the wings. Carlsson is already performing very well in a top line role and is only going to get better, so Mac on the second line was inevitable.



Ultimately I think McTavish is gonna be fine. He's already demonstrated a lot of improvement this year but in talking about Leo Carlsson, that's a first overall quality talent who just happened to be (with Fantilli and Michkov) stuck behind a potentially generational talent like Bedard. Mac just isn't in that caliber but he still has it in him to be a lower end first line center who ends up on the second line as a consequence of Anaheim's center depth.
 
Same question applies to Beniers to date.

McTavish is getting shafted in Anaheim, it’s sad to see. How a #3 pick who had a fantastic rookie year gets knocked down to play with relative scraps, and off PP1 where his shot and number one asset is most valuable, by a more recent high pick is beyond me.
He's only getting temporarily shafted... With Carlsson and Killorn in the line-up he will have plenty of firepower to work with
 
What has Luke Hughes done to put himself above Owen Power exactly?
Well for starters, he's shown to already be more prolific offensively. He's got 10 points in his first 13 NHL games, which is a 63 point pace. He's also been extremely solid defensively, being forced to a carry the corpse of Brendan Smith.

All told he's been the Devils best defenseman.

I'm taking McTavish #1 pretty easily in a redraft...
He's been great this year, huge improvements in his skating. But he's also benefiting from some extreme puck luck. His all situations on ice shooting percentage is >17% vs 9% last year.
 
Well for starters, he's shown to already be more prolific offensively. He's got 10 points in his first 13 NHL games, which is a 63 point pace. He's also been extremely solid defensively, being forced to a carry the corpse of Brendan Smith.

All told he's been the Devils best defenseman.
And what does this have to do with a pre-season redraft exactly? Mind telling me what Hughes did PRIOR to the season to warrant being drafted higher than the calder finalist.
 
And what does this have to do with a pre-season redraft exactly? Mind telling me what Hughes did PRIOR to the season to warrant being drafted higher than the calder finalist.
Well he was more productive than Power on the same Michigan team in 2021-22, then dominated college hockey as a sophomore with 10g 48p in only 39gp, then came to the NHL and had 4 points in 5 games last year, including being our best defenseman in our final playoff game.
 
Well he was more productive than Power on the same Michigan team in 2021-22, then dominated college hockey as a sophomore with 10g 48p in only 39gp, then came to the NHL and had 4 points in 5 games last year, including being our best defenseman in our final playoff game.
Thank you for providing this info. I was not aware Luke had accumulated so many points in college. I would still argue that power getting 35 points and being a + player while averaging almost 24 minutes in his rookie year is more impressive than the year Luke had in Michigan. I don't doubt Owen probably would have had a really good college year last year if he was still in college, but he was in the NHL instead.
 
  • Like
Reactions: Doug Prishpreed
Thank you for providing this info. I was not aware Luke had accumulated so many points in college. I would still argue that power getting 35 points and being a + player while averaging almost 24 minutes in his rookie year is more impressive than the year Luke had in Michigan. I don't doubt Owen probably would have had a really good college year last year if he was still in college, but he was in the NHL instead.
Luke was better than Power when they were both at Michigan in 2021-22, and then put up one of the most dominant performances in college hockey that we've seen from a defenseman, then came to the NHL and immediately started producing. Not really sure what more you can ask of him
 
Luke was better than Power when they were both at Michigan in 2021-22, and then put up one of the most dominant performances in college hockey that we've seen from a defenseman, then came to the NHL and immediately started producing. Not really sure what more you can ask of him

Probably be born 11 months earlier so Power and Luke could've been compared at the same age rather than people always comparing 20/19/18 year old Power to 19/18/17 year old Luke
 
Luke was better than Power when they were both at Michigan in 2021-22, and then put up one of the most dominant performances in college hockey that we've seen from a defenseman, then came to the NHL and immediately started producing. Not really sure what more you can ask of him.
The difference between Power and Huges in 2021-2022 is negligible. Then one of them (Power) went right to the NHL, played 24 minutes a night, ended as a plus player, with 35 points as a rookie D man, and was a Calder finalist. Not really sure what more you can ask of him.

Sorry but Power's rookie performance against NHL players, in huge role right away, is way more impressive to me than Hughes dominating college kids. I really don't even know how someone can argue that beating up on college kids is more impressive than being a 24 minute, positive, D man in the NHL at 19.
 
The difference between Power and Huges in 2021-2022 is negligible. Then one of them (Power) went right to the NHL, played 24 minutes a night, ended as a plus player, with 35 points as a rookie D man, and was a Calder finalist. Not really sure what more you can ask of him.

Sorry but Power's rookie performance against NHL players, in huge role right away, is way more impressive to me than Hughes dominating college kids. I really don't even know how someone can argue that beating up on college kids is more impressive than being a 24 minute, positive, D man in the NHL at 19.
He beat up on kids because he was playing against kids. When he got the the NHL he scored at a 60+ point clip.
 
He beat up on kids because he was playing against kids. When he got the the NHL he scored at a 60+ point clip.
Over a whopping 5 games. What a perfectly adequate sample size. Fabian Brunnstrom had a hasty in his first game. It didn't mean anything.

I am not saying Like Hughes isn't great or won't be better. I am saying if this summer, the draft was redone, power likely still goes 1st.
 
Last edited:
The difference between Power and Huges in 2021-2022 is negligible. Then one of them (Power) went right to the NHL, played 24 minutes a night, ended as a plus player, with 35 points as a rookie D man, and was a Calder finalist. Not really sure what more you can ask of him.

Sorry but Power's rookie performance against NHL players, in huge role right away, is way more impressive to me than Hughes dominating college kids. I really don't even know how someone can argue that beating up on college kids is more impressive than being a 24 minute, positive, D man in the NHL at 19.

You realize that this is not a ranking of "most impressive recent year" right? it's projecting for their entire careers. If Pronman thought Hughes had more offensive upside that would result in a better career, the fact that Power made the NHL sooner (as an older player) is quite irrelevant.
 
You realize that this is not a ranking of "most impressive recent year" right? it's projecting for their entire careers. If Pronman thought Hughes had more offensive upside that would result in a better career, the fact that Power made the NHL sooner (as an older player) is quite irrelevant.
No, Him making and succeeding in the NHL is not irrelevant. I find it comical that in a thread speculating on "who would go first in a redraft" which uses the current information we have, that you think a GM would view a 19 year old D man not only making the NHL, but succeeding, as "quite irrelevant"
 

Users who are viewing this thread

Ad

Ad