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I think the opposite it true. 25-and-under and you're capturing prospects who haven't made it, young guys who aren't close to their prime, and slightly more mature guys who will be entering their prime shortly (and maybe a few who are in their prime and we don't know it). The point isn't to look at who is best now or for next season, but who will will be the best in the next 3-5 years. I think if you look at 25-U you're looking at the next 3-5 years as when all the guys you're including will likely be participating to various degrees.
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Might be a fine benchmark for most but it is clearly not the proper measure in enough situations that I wouldn't feel comfortable using it at all. Your best talents that drive your success could very well have already peaked by the age of 25. I understand what you are going for, but I don't think it would reflect the actual future of your overall franchise.

There is no one godsend accurate measure. But, if the best in the game have shown to peak already by the age of 25, then the cutoff should be earlier than that imo
 
I dunno what he's thinking with the Howden ranking. The only "very good" thing I've seen from Howden is his hustle as he constantly tries to get back in the play after he's taken himself out of it
 
Don’t like where miller is he should be higher. I think Howden over kravtsov is crazy but I think a lot of people in the org and in the scouting world like what Brett Howden is working to become.

he’s spot on with Chytil and I’m glad he recognized it.

I just read the devils review and I have no clue how they’re #2 it’s so underwhelming
 
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Howden made the jump from the CHL to the NHL. Not a lot of players do that though it could be argued he should have spent a year or two in the AHL and that he's the beneficiary of a much depleted roster. Still people should realize he's a kid with two full years of NHL experience now. I suspect we've seen the worst of him and that he will get better as he gets older and stronger. I think it's a mistake to look at his first two years as all he can be.

Gauthier and Kravtsov are largely unproven. Gauthier has scored a bunch of goals in the AHL but he's 0 for 12 as far as NHL games. I wouldn't be looking for goals so much for him though--I'd be looking for him to fill a role in the bottom 6. That includes being able to show he can play a 200' game and hopefully help on our penalty kill.

Kravtsov took a step back last year. He looks to me like he needs to fill out some. He's 6'4 and too skinny. He's not going to walk into a top 6 job either so he should work on his 200' game too.
 
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Howden made the jump from the CHL to the NHL. Not a lot of players do that though it could be argued he should have spent a year or two in the AHL and that he's the beneficiary of a much depleted roster. Still people should realize he's a kid with two full years of NHL experience now. I suspect we've seen the worst of him and that he will get better as he gets older and stronger. I think it's a mistake to look at his first two years as all he can be.

Gauthier and Kravtsov are largely unproven. Gauthier has scored a bunch of goals in the AHL but he's 0 for 12 as far as NHL games. I wouldn't be looking for goals so much for him though--I'd be looking for him to fill a role in the bottom 6. That includes being able to show he can play a 200' game and hopefully help on our penalty kill.

Kravtsov took a step back last year. He looks to me like he needs to fill out some. He's 6'4 and too skinny. He's not going to walk into a top 6 job either so he should work on his 200' game too.
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It's true that there is a chance that Kravtsov never plays in the NHL, and Howden has already "made it" as a regular. But still, it's weird to see.
 
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Guys, the differences between his rankings and what is more or less consensus on this board it’s not that hard: he places a much heavier emphasis on actually cracking the NHL than most of us do (which, I’ve no doubt some NHL front offices do, as well). Hence the Howden and Gauthier rankings. Bump them each down a few notches, and it doesn’t look that different from how we tend to rank them.

Curious if guys like Kravtsov and Andersson may change their rankings between now and the post draft rankings based on their play overseas.

Also, does he just to ahead and drop Lafreniere at the top of the list, or is there some debate with Kakko/Fox, who played in the NHL last year? (I’ve got to believe he does, NHL experience notwithstanding.)
 
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Brooklyn Rangers Fan said:
Guys, the differences between his rankings and what is more or less consensus on this board it’s not that hard: he places a much heavier emphasis on actually cracking the NHL than most of us do (which, I’ve no doubt some NHL front offices do, as well). Hence the Howden and Gauthier rankings. Bump them each down a few notches, and it doesn’t look that different from how we tend to rank them.

Curious if guys like Kravtsov and Andersson may change their rankings between now and the post draft rankings based on their play overseas.

Also, does he just to ahead and drop Lafreniere at the top of the list, or is there some debate with Kakko/Fox, who played in the NHL last year? (I’ve got to believe he does, NHL experience notwithstanding.)
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Well he seems to still be very high on Kakko, and has him in a different tier to Fox. I think Laf will end up no. 1 though, in that same Special/Elite tier.
 
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Fine list

Howden is too high but the rest is fine. Bit surprised he’s not a bigger fan of Henriksson

Would imagine that will change as we move forward
 
People are getting too caught up on the rankings. Placing howden, kravtsov and Gauthier in a different order is like splitting hairs. I thought his descriptions of where each player stands in their development were very fair.
 
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