Rumor: Preds and leafs linked to Pesce

[PREDy 4 the Cup]

Sure would love him first pairing with josi in Nashville

Maple Leafs, Predators Linked To Brett Pesce

Expect the Maple Leafs and Predators to be two of the top suitors for Hurricanes defenseman Brett Pesce if he hits the …

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[Raistlin]

Pesce ain't what he used to be this year from my limited viewings. Injuries has caught up to him because of this playstyle, but he's still la smart defender... He's a second pairing guy now.

 

[Jared Dunn]

I get the feeling he's gonna be the guy who gets a deal that's gonna turn ugly sooner than later

 

[Wolfpuck]

I love Peesh, but his injuries are starting to catch up with him. His next contract could age very poorly.

 

[BB88]

Does Toronto really have the cap to pay him what he’s going to get from the market?

 

[Jared Dunn]

Does Toronto really have the cap to pay him what he’s going to get from the market?

There's quite a bit coming off the books this year even if Marner isn't moved, but there's a lot of holes to address

 

[mydnyte]

Sure would love him first pairing with josi in Nashville

Maple Leafs, Predators Linked To Brett Pesce

Expect the Maple Leafs and Predators to be two of the top suitors for Hurricanes defenseman Brett Pesce if he hits the …

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Leafs will be linked to every RHD UFA, and 1/2 the LHD UFA available this off season, they need to rebuild it and need 3 D-men

 

[belair]

The Leafs need D with pace and solid puck moving prowess. The guy they should be targeting this summer is Montour. Overpay if need be.

 

[Torontonian]

Does Toronto really have the cap to pay him what he’s going to get from the market?

Roughly 20m after sending players down, with 1B goalie/2 top 6 forward spots to fill (technically Toronto doesn't need to sign any UFAS, since if we sign our RFA forwards, we have enough forwards already) and 3 right side d-dman to fill out..

So yes and no.

 

[Amadeus]

Preds can have this one.

 

[BB88]

There's quite a bit coming off the books this year even if Marner isn't moved, but there's a lot of holes to address

I’m just expecting Gm’s to still see and value him like a premium RD.

That’s going to be an anchor

 

[Jared Dunn]

I’m just expecting Gm’s to still see and value him like a premium RD.

That’s going to be an anchor

Yeah I don't know if they can pay for a marquee name unless Marner is gone, if they can sneak in Matt Roy or Tanev around 5 million that should be the move imo

 

[BB88]

Roughly 20m after sending players down, with 1B goalie/2 top 6 forward spots to fill (technically Toronto doesn't need to sign any UFAS, since if we sign our RFA forwards, we have enough forwards already) and 3 right side d-dman to fill out..

So yes and no.

I’m looking at 18M cap space with 10 F, 5D& 1G

Giving Pesce 6-6.5M is a rough one, especially since he’ll get the term

 

[Torontonian]

Yeah I don't know if they can pay for a marquee name unless Marner is gone, if they can sneak in Matt Roy or Tanev around 5 million that should be the move imo

Well, if anyone on the UFA list ends up making 7m+ then Toronto should not be paying for a marquee d-man. I can see Montour and maybe Skeji (maybe slightly less) getting that, but no one else should be sniffing that type of number.

 

[Big Daddy Cane]

It'll be interesting to see how his 13 point contract year is interpreted. If it's seen as a sign of a decline in skating, the market hasn't been very generous to pure defensive D; Chiarot, Manson, Murphy, Savard and Larsson ranged from $3.5 mil -$4.75 mil on a 4 year deal in recent years. Cap spike would help some.

 

[Jared Dunn]

Well, if anyone on the UFA list ends up making 7m+ then Toronto should not be paying for a marquee d-man. I can see Montour and maybe Skeji (maybe slightly less) getting that, but no one else should be sniffing that type of number.

Pesce reportedly turned down something like 5.5x5, so he's probably looking for a 6x6 or something which I think could be a disaster. There's going to be so many teams looking for the exact mold of RD Toronto is though the prices will inevitably go up

 

[Torontonian]

I’m looking at 18M cap space with 10 F, 5D& 1G

Giving Pesce 6-6.5M is a rough one, especially since he’ll get the term

It's 18.5m right now, that's having Timmins and Weber on the roster, once they go to the minors it's roughly 20m.

Giving Pesce 6.5m would be a big mistake down the line, but Toronto is in a tough spot where they shouldn't be worrying about anything past 4 years from now, here's hoping Brad doesn't overpay on one of these d-man by too much

 

[Breakers]

I still think whoever signs him is going to have to cough up a draft pick........ say a 4th rounder.

Severson cost a 3rd, so something around there.

new world of right shot defense costing a pick ASWELL as money in free agency.
Not so free anymore.

 

[Jared Dunn]

It's 18.5m right now, that's having Timmins and Weber on the roster, once they go to the minors it's roughly 20m.

Giving Pesce 6.5m would be a big mistake down the line, but Toronto is in a tough spot where they shouldn't be worrying about anything past 4 years from now, here's hoping Brad doesn't overpay on one of these d-man by too much

If they're going to go around or above 6 million with term for anyone it should definitely be Roy

I still think whoever signs him is going to have to cough up a draft pick........ say a 4th rounder.

Severson cost a 3rd, so something around there.

new world of right shot defense costing a pick ASWELL as money in free agency.
Not so free anymore.

Generally though that's so a team can go up to 8 years which I think would be INSANE to give Pesce

 

[AvroArrow]

The Leafs need D with pace and solid puck moving prowess. The guy they should be targeting this summer is Montour. Overpay if need be.

Would love him here, I just don't see why he'd leave a cup contender tax free warm state to come to Toronto

 

[Breakers]

If they're going to go around or above 6 million with term for anyone it should definitely be Roy


Generally though that's so a team can go up to 8 years which I think would be INSANE to give Pesce

He's still under the threshold of a player becoming old when he turns 30

I dont think it is insane, term matters less to GM's than current cap hits. Probably because they know they wont be around for the full term.

8th year brings the cap hit down.

 

[Stickpucker]

Pesce has been a good Cane.

That said he doesn't have a lot of tread left on his tires.

 

[Jared Dunn]

The Leafs need D with pace and solid puck moving prowess. The guy they should be targeting this summer is Montour. Overpay if need be.

Florida will move Ekblad before letting him walk imo

 

[SEALBound]

I think the real question is, did he have Toronto Maple Leafs bedsheets as a kid?

 

[BKarchitect]

Big RHD with a sterling defensive reputation and is not ancient by any means. He’s going to have a big market.

There’s also a reason the Canes, one of the most analytical organizations in the NHL, aren’t fretting losing him and definitely would have a much lower internal cap to re-sign him to.

Definitely can see the fit in both Nashville and Toronto. But if the expectations are a top 15 defensive dman who can log 22+ pure shutdown minutes a night next to Josi or Rielly - probably should lower them. If your club is ok paying a premium that comes with UFA’s in a rising cap era and the premium that comes with this player type and position - I think he’s still a good add despite his drop-off this past season.

You just gotta build into it that the cost is not going to be a direct equivalent to the role because of how you are acquiring him and the stage of his career he is at.