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Here's my quick top 10, based on the HF guideline(though etem and dsp should obviously still be considered in the prospect category)

1. Gibson
2. Ritchie
3. Vatanen
4. Theodore
5. Karlsson
6. Rakell
7. Kerdiles
8. Petersson
9. Noesen
10. Sorensen

9-12 is a tossup to me between noesen/sorensen/friberg/roy
 
Gibson
Theodore
Ritchie
Karlsson
Rakell
Kerdiles
Sorensen
Pettersson
Noesen
Manson
 
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Gibson
Karlsson
Ritchie
Kerdiles
Pettersson
Theodore
Rakell
Welinski
Manson
Noesen
 
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KEEROLE Vatanen said:
Here's my quick top 10, based on the HF guideline(though etem and dsp should obviously still be considered in the prospect category)

1. Gibson
2. Ritchie
3. Vatanen
4. Theodore
5. Karlsson
6. Rakell
7. Kerdiles
8. Petersson
9. Noesen
10. Sorensen

9-12 is a tossup to me between noesen/sorensen/friberg/roy
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Vatanen isn't a prospect anymore. Also I think that's a little high for Ritchie before we've seem him in camp. I know we get all excited by new players and all but Rakell, Karlsson and Kerdiles are all more promising in my opinion at the moment.
 
Gibson
Karlsson
Ritchie
Rakell
Kerdiles
Theodore
Pettersson
Noesen
Welinski
Sorensen

HM: Manson, Friberg, Wagner in that order
 
Wow... is it just me or is Kerdiles getting the shaft here? He's got two years of NCAA development over Ritchie and been a dominant force there.
 
Hockey Duckie said:
Wow... is it just me or is Kerdiles getting the shaft here? He's got two years of NCAA development over Ritchie and been a dominant force there.
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These rankings aren't done on the basis of just what they have done. You are ranking them on the basis of where you think they end up.
 
1. Gibson
2. Karlsson
3. Ritchie
4. Theodore
5. Rakell
6. Kerdiles
7. Pettersson
8. Welinski
9. Noesen
10. Sörensen/Friberg

Manson, Wagner, Thompson, Roy would be my next 4 choices.

Only really think top 4 is set. 5-7 was hard, Pettersson could easily leapfrog both at some point. Sörensen/Friberg was tough, I'm really interested to see how Sörensen plays in the SHL next season (on Pettersson's team as well).
 
Right now i`d put Ritchie over Karlsson. But i have hard time predicting that pick :/

Can`t wait for camp an polls after that.
 
Exit Dose said:
These rankings aren't done on the basis of just what they have done. You are ranking them on the basis of where you think they end up.
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Wait... WHAT???!!!! These rankings are not done on the basis of what they've done??? But rather where any person's opinion of where they will end up at? No need for actual support?! Oh really?! Why in the hell is Gibson number 1 this year? Why is Karlsson in the top 3 this year? Karlsson wasn't even one of the big prospects last year with the thought he needed much more seasoning than Rakell. Interesting. So rankings are NOT done on the basis of just what they have done... really.


Right now, Kerdiles' production as a power forward in the NCAA has me projecting to actually make it to the NHL because he is consistent. Right now, Ritchie has great potential with some inconsistency issues. They both project to be power forwards. Succeeding at the NCAA level projects better of where they will land in the NHL. Ritchie has to turn it on to make his team better. That's cool. Kerdiles' motor is always on. Kerdiles turned his Badger team's woes around after being suspended (dumb NCAA).

I dunno... just wanted to see why Kerdiles got passed up in some people's opinion. Maybe those opinions can sway me. I can understand why Karlsson passed up Rakell b/c Karlsson proved to be an offensive playmaker who's won an award across the pond b/c of it. Karlsson's game is different from Rakell's game at center. Craig Button apparently loves Rakell's game and thinks he's the blue chipper due to the fact Rakell fits the big body mold necessary to survive in the Pacific division. This just shows varying opinions.

Here's a quote from Buckys5thquarter.com article on Kerdiles:
Kerdiles was one of college hockey's most prolific offensive producers in his second season in Madison, as he finished the year fifth in the country in points per game, averaging 1.36 as a sophomore. In total this past season, Kerdiles registered 15 goals, 23 assists and 38 points in 28 games.

The Badgers were a different team the past two seasons with Kerdiles in the lineup. When he was in a Wisconsin sweater, the Badgers were 40-15-1; without Kerdiles, Wisconsin was just 6-10-3.
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Okay, now can someone sway me why Ritchie is better than Kerdiles? I'm still on topic, right?

OT - Looking at my avatar... i really need a new one, don't i? ha ha ha
 
Hockey Duckie said:
Wait... WHAT???!!!! These rankings are not done on the basis of what they've done??? But rather where any person's opinion of where they will end up at? No need for actual support?! Oh really?! Why in the hell is Gibson number 1 this year? Why is Karlsson in the top 3 this year? Karlsson wasn't even one of the big prospects last year with the thought he needed much more seasoning than Rakell. Interesting. So rankings are NOT done on the basis of just what they have done... really.
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These aren't the rankings. We aren't using this thread to create the rankings. As Spicy said, he's going to start the voting for that after prospect camp is held.

This is just a thread to post where you think that these players end up at this moment. These things could change in as little as a few days for some people. For others, there may be little to no change.

As for the bold, you are assuming that everyone here is assembling their rankings with little to no rationale. I can vouch for the fact that AngelDuck has seen all of Rakell, Karlsson, and Kerdiles. I don't think he assembled his list on the basis of what people thought about Karlsson a year ago. I also am not doing that. You may not realize this, but just doing well in college doesn't mean that you are set to do well in the NHL. That being said, and looking at the company that people have Kerdiles in, I think it's safe to say that everyone thinks pretty highly of him.
 
Hockey Duckie said:
Wait... WHAT???!!!! These rankings are not done on the basis of what they've done??? But rather where any person's opinion of where they will end up at? No need for actual support?! Oh really?! Why in the hell is Gibson number 1 this year? Why is Karlsson in the top 3 this year? Karlsson wasn't even one of the big prospects last year with the thought he needed much more seasoning than Rakell. Interesting. So rankings are NOT done on the basis of just what they have done... really.


Right now, Kerdiles' production as a power forward in the NCAA has me projecting to actually make it to the NHL because he is consistent. Right now, Ritchie has great potential with some inconsistency issues. They both project to be power forwards. Succeeding at the NCAA level projects better of where they will land in the NHL. Ritchie has to turn it on to make his team better. That's cool. Kerdiles' motor is always on. Kerdiles turned his Badger team's woes around after being suspended (dumb NCAA).

I dunno... just wanted to see why Kerdiles got passed up in some people's opinion. Maybe those opinions can sway me. I can understand why Karlsson passed up Rakell b/c Karlsson proved to be an offensive playmaker who's won an award across the pond b/c of it. Karlsson's game is different from Rakell's game at center. Craig Button apparently loves Rakell's game and thinks he's the blue chipper due to the fact Rakell fits the big body mold necessary to survive in the Pacific division. This just shows varying opinions.

Here's a quote from Buckys5thquarter.com article on Kerdiles:


Okay, now can someone sway me why Ritchie is better than Kerdiles? I'm still on topic, right?

OT - Looking at my avatar... i really need a new one, don't i? ha ha ha
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It's not about who has produced more at which level. It's about who you think is going to have a more productive NHL career. If you think Kerdiles will have a better career than Ritchie, it's not that outrageous, Nic is a good prospect. I just think Ritchie has a higher upside and I just get a good feeling about him.

As far as Karlsson...He's actually as big if not bigger than Rakell, and he is less prone to trying to dangle through players like Rakell sometimes still does. Karlsson is always in the right spot and is also a great playmaker on the offensive side. Rakell has better hands and is more flashy but I think WK will eventually pass Rakell on the depth chart - maybe even as soon as next season. Most people who were watching Norfolk's games down the stretch last year (Exit dose, Spicy, etc) agree that Karlsson looked better all around than Rakell did earlier on in the year. He also had chemistry with Etem, which bodes well for the future.
 
i'm really surprised at all the karlsson over rakell's. Has something happened? we have 1 guy in the AHL who just came over and 1 guy whos probaly gonna be on our NHL roster next season
 
bumperkisser said:
i'm really surprised at all the karlsson over rakell's. Has something happened? we have 1 guy in the AHL who just came over and 1 guy whos probaly gonna be on our NHL roster next season
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Rakell hasn't had to compete against Karlsson - Karlsson finished out his contract in Sweden last year. He hasn't won the battle yet. We'll see how it plays out in camp, but what I saw in the minors leads me to believe that WK has a real chance to win that spot.
 
bumperkisser said:
i'm really surprised at all the karlsson over rakell's. Has something happened? we have 1 guy in the AHL who just came over and 1 guy whos probaly gonna be on our NHL roster next season
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I think some people(myself included) just feel Karlsson has that kind of potential. Karlsson also played against adults in Sweden, and then (based on reports) really looked impressive in the games in Norfolk.

Rakell's AHL/NHL experience might give him a slight advantage, but we've got two players who are the same age and who could compete for the same spot. When push comes to shove, if you think Karlsson is, or will be, better that's who you pick.

Whatever happens, I see it as a win-win for Anaheim.
 
Spicy Porkins said:
Like last year, I'll wait until after the prospect camp to start the polling so everyone has a chance to get eyes on the new guys, or on reports about them.
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you're right but i was just curious to see how the forum viewed things after the draft. for me i still consider DSP and Etem prospects i think i'd rate them in the 4 to 8 range

and yeah i think those of us that watched karlsson with norfolk have good reason to rank him so highly. to me he seemed to be the most naturally gifted player on the ads when i saw him there
 
If we include Etem and DSP, they'd be around 8th for me. They might be more NHL-ready than a lot of the prospects, but I don't see the same talent or upside in their game that I see in others. That's without a bigtime breakout in either of their games. If Sami qualified, he'd be up around 2-4, I think. He's older, but as talented as anyone, and he's spunky. In terms of pure upside, some of the younger players might have more, but he's further along the path.
 
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