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It's gotta be the officials of Team Canada being associated with the Canadiens right? And their disdain for PK?

In no universe are Jay Bowmeester, Jake Muzzin and Marc-Edouard Vlasic better ice hockey players than PK Subban.

I hope PK comes back with a vengance against his former team and Hockey in Canada in general.
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Then what's the reason for Letang?
 
100Gs said:
It's gotta be the officials of Team Canada being associated with the Canadiens right? And their disdain for PK?

In no universe are Jay Bowmeester, Jake Muzzin and Marc-Edouard Vlasic better ice hockey players than PK Subban.

I hope PK comes back with a vengance against his former team and Hockey in Canada in general.
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Lefty-righty bruh
 
100Gs said:
It's gotta be the officials of Team Canada being associated with the Canadiens right? And their disdain for PK?

In no universe are Jay Bowmeester, Jake Muzzin and Marc-Edouard Vlasic better ice hockey players than PK Subban.

I hope PK comes back with a vengance against his former team and Hockey in Canada in general.
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They just might be better when you're trying to win hockey games. Just saying.
 
Vlasic certainly deserves a spot.

Letang should have been on the team IMO.

Subban is a great player but he is polarizing
 
100Gs said:
In no universe are Jay Bowmeester, Jake Muzzin and Marc-Edouard Vlasic better ice hockey players than PK Subban.
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i cannot comment on your speculation, however i respectfully disagree about Vlasic. This guy might not be a scoring machine like subban, but he prevents more goals than anyone in the game. Not questioning the greatness of Pk Subban, just the obvious notion that his style of play is high risk with a high reward. With vlasic you are getting a more than steady stay at home dman that can keep pucks out. With the system team canada/babcock is pushing, pk is not a fit.
 
imo canada needs more puck movers. doughty and burns are good but after that who else can move the puck at an elite level? i even question burns sometimes. team canada really is missing out on letang and subban.
 
its odd Team Canada

has

4 Rightys playing now ... Doughty, Weber, Burns, Pietrangelo 1 Pietrangelo is playing his offside.

The 4 should all be there... Adding and playing Subban or Letang both righties would make it 5 out 6 in the lineup.
 
They don't seem to have a problem with 19 centers on the team. At least they aren't playing their worst goalie like Team USA.
 
Hynh said:
Lefty-righty bruh
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I have no idea why trying to communicate this simple concept to so many people is like...

:banghead::banghead::banghead:


RH shooting defencemen like that do not have high level experience playing their off side. The relative scarcity of RH shooters means that these guys come up through the ranks playing almost exclusively their strong RHD side.

It's exacerbated in a short one and done type tournament with no real time to familiarize, and where one mistake due to unfamiliarity can mean the end of your chances.

A polarizing and sometimes volatile risk/reward player like Subban who already has trouble fitting within rigid systems play just compounds the issue even further. The way Canada wants to play, they're demanding simplicity from their defence. Just break up plays, move the puck up quick and easy to the All Star caliber forwards. They don't need, or even want a guy freelancing all over the ice like Subban's strong suit.

And when you've already got guys like Doughty, Pietrangelo, Weber, Burns...there's absolutely zero need for more RHD offence or PP ability.


There's no conspiracy here. Subban just isn't one of the 3 best RHD Canada has available. Especially when it comes down to being one of the 3 or 4 best RHD for the type of systems play Canada wants to employ.
 
Hockey Canada is extremely political and has their favorites. This is the reason for every time there's outrage why X wasn't chosen. If guys on the fringe want to move up the pecking order they have to do their duty at Worlds.
 
PK Subban is too unpredictable and therefor isn't the safest bet to place when assembling a team to win a best-on-best tournament.

But what do they know, right?
 
Vlasic deserves his spot. Shouldn't be mentioned.

The rest comes down to RH-LH combos.

Canada's track record under Babcock says it all. They know what they're doing and it has nothing to do with politics.
 
tigervixxxen said:
Hockey Canada is extremely political and has their favorites. This is the reason for every time there's outrage why X wasn't chosen. If guys on the fringe want to move up the pecking order they have to do their duty at Worlds.
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Yes Hockey Canada is political and it is probable Geoff Molson has some clout with them.The last thing the Habs needed was Subban having a good tournament.
 
Id happily take Vlasic over Subban on his off-side.

Id have taken Subban over Weber.

As for your question, I think its because Babcock and the rest of the Team Canada management arent fans of how Subban plays and dont trust him to pit the team before his desire to build his own brand.
 
is it too late for subban to go full adam deadmarsh//sydney leroux and join the states? :D

kidding obviously, but what exactly are the rules on that? i believe they are pretty concrete, but iirc, didn't khabibulin flip from kazakhstan to russia after playing for kazakhstan in a iihf tournament? long time ago so i forget the specifics, but that sounds familiar

also the fact he is not on the team is indeed both lol and cringe worthy
 
No disrespect to Muzzin, but Subban should have made it over him. However, the Team Canada brass know what they are doing, so i respect their judgment.
 
HavocWreaker said:
imo canada needs more puck movers. doughty and burns are good but after that who else can move the puck at an elite level? i even question burns sometimes. team canada really is missing out on letang and subban.
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Pietrangelo.....he's pretty good at it


Considering the success of TC, I think they know what they are doing.
 
100Gs said:
It's gotta be the officials of Team Canada being associated with the Canadiens right? And their disdain for PK?

In no universe are Jay Bowmeester, Jake Muzzin and Marc-Edouard Vlasic better ice hockey players than PK Subban.

I hope PK comes back with a vengance against his former team and Hockey in Canada in general.
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What on Earth is this nonsense?

First of all, I don't know if you noticed, but Canada didn't take a lot of risk-takers on D. That's why you have Pietrangelo instead of Letang. I guess there's Burns, but that's it and he's coming off 27 goals, a finals appearance and a Norris nomination (and if San Jose had won it all, very possibly a Conn Smythe), which Subban isn't.

But then I guess pattern-recognition didn't enter into this post, because you listed three left-handed D and wondered why a right-handed D isn't on the team and playing out of position, instead of them.
 
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Its political old boys club ********.

PK Subban is the best right-handed Canadian defenseman on the planet.
 
This is the Subban that was just traded by Montreal? It's like the hockey world knows something you don't.
 
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