I know some people want the tournament in smaller cities, and nothing is wrong with that, but one would say you want to give the tournament as big of a platform as possible, nothing wrong's about that either. Toronto and Montreal can certainly do that, and the first tournament did very well there, even though Montreal wasn't a big success, but that is relative. Hockey Canada had a good reason to give the tournament to those two cities. Given the success of the previous tournaments in Canada, and canadian NHL cities, and given the particularly high popularity of the tournament here (for example in 2009, Ottawa, Kazakhstan-Germany game was visited by 18,305 people; and in CGY 2012, Switzerland-Latvia by 13,666 people, I say that 8 tournaments, of the among europeans very popular senior world championships, 8 out of 10 those tournament will not have such a good attendance number for that kind of a game), I can't see why was it a bad idea to try it to host the tourney in Toronto and Montreal twice in 3 years. Perhaps now everybody knows that Montreal isn't the best fit for it, and maybe hosting it twice in a row in the same cities isn't the absolute best thing to do, but don't tell me it wasn't worth trying.
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CorgisPer60
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This. Montreal and Toronto typically don't care for hockey products that aren't their respective NHL clubs. Give the games to a smaller market, and you'll get more people at the gate. Also, the pricing schemes suck [MOD]
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The 2015 events should have been London/Toronto and this years Ottawa/Montreal the reason is you have one very strong market you can afford for the other group no to do great attendance wise.
That and they have smaller arenas. The amount of people in ACC tonight wouldn't havr fit in a smaller venue. Not sure if anyone has the number, but it looked well over 80% full.
jeangauthier
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Every minute of every game is televised.........my friend is a Pub owner downtown and it seems folks would rather watch the game and swill at the local drinking hole and eat and drink with groups of friend at a fraction of the cost............all making sense.........
I am seriously fed up of Canadians crapping on Montrealers.
Get over yourselves.
Montreal is the hockey Mecca, it is literally the center of the hockey universe. History lives here. So we don't show up in droves for games, it does not matter. All these kids coming here from all over the world must have eyes as wide as bugs. They come to our city, experience our culture and get to see what a real hockey town looks like. The experience for them is unparalleled. You won't get that in Toronto, Buffalo, Edmonton... sorry guys, your cities are great but they don't match up to the type of experience you get here. Maybe New York city, but that's about it.
You know how many people showed up for the Finland vs Norway game in 2014 in Malmo, Sweden? 734 ---- SEVEN HUNDRED AND THIRTY FOUR ---- in a 13,000 seat capacity arena... that is 5% full. FIVE freaking percent.
Finland vs Slovakia in Montreal in 2015 drew 6,007 in an arena that seats 22,114, 8 times as many people for a game with no fans close to the national borders. And over 27% full. Not great, but still better than any rinky dink Euro arena.
Do we have the best attendance? Absolutely not, we are probably the worst North American city you could possibly host this event in. We simply don't care, the Bell center is a pain in the ass to get to, add winter weather, traffic and half the city leaves for vacation and you have a recipe for bad attendance. But again... the kids who come here will experience something maybe for the only time in their lives and that...as a hockey fan makes me very happy and proud for them. And they will still play in front of more people than had they played in their European counterpart cities.
Get over yourselves.
Montreal is the hockey Mecca, it is literally the center of the hockey universe. History lives here. So we don't show up in droves for games, it does not matter. All these kids coming here from all over the world must have eyes as wide as bugs. They come to our city, experience our culture and get to see what a real hockey town looks like. The experience for them is unparalleled. You won't get that in Toronto, Buffalo, Edmonton... sorry guys, your cities are great but they don't match up to the type of experience you get here. Maybe New York city, but that's about it.
You know how many people showed up for the Finland vs Norway game in 2014 in Malmo, Sweden? 734 ---- SEVEN HUNDRED AND THIRTY FOUR ---- in a 13,000 seat capacity arena... that is 5% full. FIVE freaking percent.
Finland vs Slovakia in Montreal in 2015 drew 6,007 in an arena that seats 22,114, 8 times as many people for a game with no fans close to the national borders. And over 27% full. Not great, but still better than any rinky dink Euro arena.
Do we have the best attendance? Absolutely not, we are probably the worst North American city you could possibly host this event in. We simply don't care, the Bell center is a pain in the ass to get to, add winter weather, traffic and half the city leaves for vacation and you have a recipe for bad attendance. But again... the kids who come here will experience something maybe for the only time in their lives and that...as a hockey fan makes me very happy and proud for them. And they will still play in front of more people than had they played in their European counterpart cities.
mikeg
What I find funny is its Montreal fans that dumped on Ottawa fans some said no matter where the arena is all games would be sold out yet Montreal fans now can't handle some harsh debate.
What I find funny is its Montreal fans that dumped on Ottawa fans some said no matter where the arena is all games would be sold out yet Montreal fans now can't handle some harsh debate.
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Marns
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I bought tickets for $35 each to USA vs Russia, five rows back in the 300s. By comparison, the exact same seats for Canada's game against Latvia are $99...
See above. Expecting you to pay $100 for a round robin game against a minnow is ludicrous. They deserve a half-empty arena for pulling that garbage.
That's fair and yes ticket prices should be lower more so in markets like Toronto and Montreal but this idea all tickets should be $5 give me a break.
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Sorry but why do you have to drag Malmö into your joke haha. 5% sounds realistic to me considering it's probably that amount of people in Malmö that even knows what hockey is. Blame the people in charge for selecting bad places to host the tournament.
Seriously, the pricing is crazy. Y'all can crap on Toronto and Montreal, but I prefer spending this kind of money elsewhere.
I hate to say this but fans from both markets do bring this on you can't expect to crap on other markets sometimes weekly and not expect the same when this happens.
Rabid Ranger
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You'd have a better argument if this was a world class city discussion. It's not though-it's a a best venue for the WJCs discussion. The fact is there's a certain amount of apathy in Montreal for hockey other than the Canadiens. Part of that could certainly be a cultural/political disconnect from the rest of Canada-especially when it comes to international competition.
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But isn't the reason most people crap on Montrealers because they can't get over themselves?
usahockey22flyers
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6 of us went to MTL in 2014. We were uperdeck last row and had tickets to every game in MTL. Whole package was $450 (if we waited and bought individually on stubhub we maybe would have spent $10 a game and $100 for US/Canada), crowds were terrible besides Canada vs USA.
I love TO - that city loves the NHL and their Leafs. Montreal just loves the Habs. You cant find any other teams gear in the city - everything is MTL
I love TO - that city loves the NHL and their Leafs. Montreal just loves the Habs. You cant find any other teams gear in the city - everything is MTL
Spartachat
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The entertainment markets in Montreal and Toronto are too saturated. There is just way too much stuff to do there. If you have seen many Leafs or Canadiens games, it is not a big thrill to see junior players.
However, in small towns, there are many people who have probably never even seen an NHL game live in their life. Seeing NHL prospects would be a big thing for them.
However, in small towns, there are many people who have probably never even seen an NHL game live in their life. Seeing NHL prospects would be a big thing for them.
People have finally wake up and realized this tournament is nothing more than a cash grab and less and less top juniors are playing.
And LOL at the ignorant who suggested Montreal didn't support it's USL soccer team ahahaha.This was a reserve's team like they have in Europe. Even Real Madrid's reserve team don't get crowds.
We had more than 400 000 this year for the Impact and in 2007 for the U20 Fifa World Cup we had crowds of 40 000 46 000 55 000 etc...We even had 51 000 last year for a Women World Cup game...
Montreal now is a soccer and Habs town only.
Almost nobody cares about junior hockey and this tournament and the idiots charge ridiculous prices...
Last night even Toronto had 7000 empty seats for Canada.
And LOL at the ignorant who suggested Montreal didn't support it's USL soccer team ahahaha.This was a reserve's team like they have in Europe. Even Real Madrid's reserve team don't get crowds.
We had more than 400 000 this year for the Impact and in 2007 for the U20 Fifa World Cup we had crowds of 40 000 46 000 55 000 etc...We even had 51 000 last year for a Women World Cup game...
Montreal now is a soccer and Habs town only.
Almost nobody cares about junior hockey and this tournament and the idiots charge ridiculous prices...
Last night even Toronto had 7000 empty seats for Canada.
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