Poor attendance

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My thoughts on the Toronto side (as someone who lives a 30 second walk from the ACC)

- In 2015, all the scalpers bought into the tournament as a potential success. Obviously it backfired horribly - but the upside was that there was an absolute flood of super cheap tickets. So even games like Denmark/Switzerland had 12-14K in the arena, and the vibe was OK. This time, no one bought tickets. Someone handed me USA/Latvia tickets when I was buying groceries across the street, and I paid $6 CAD for lower bowls to both Russia/Latvia and US/Slovakia. Its an absolute ghost town in there. Maybe 7K for each game. Made a trek down last night just to see the market for Canada/Latvia and there were people dumping $20 tickets outside before puckdrop. Its pretty dire. I think the 2015 tournament made a crapload of money because scalpers bought out most inventory and then just got killed trying to sell it (similar to why the World Cup was a financial success for the NHL). But I wouldn't be surprised if this tournament ends up doing poorly compared to budget.

- I absolutely think the WJHC is dealing with 'irrelevant event' syndrome here. People will still pay for the top level stuff. Canada/US tomorrow? Not an issue at all - tickets are minimum $250 on the secondary market. But who exactly did Hockey Canada think would pay $84 (lowest face value) to see Canada beat the living crap out of Latvia? At least for the World Cup you were seeing Crosby/Toews/Price etc. There isn't even a marquee Canadian player this time around to get truly excited about.

- Also the format of this tournament is abhorrent. I said at the start of the tournament that the most important game of the group would be the Latvia/Slovakia game that takes place tonight, and I 100% stand by it. There is minimal incentive to win the group (hell, based on the fact its 3-1 Denmark now its probably far better to come in 2nd), and its basically 'win a game in regulation and advance' which is brutal in a five game round robin. There's no incentive to even care about the tournament until the knockout stage if you're a casual Canadian fan unless you want to buy into the ridiculous TSN hype train of 'lets show how hockey is CANADA'S GAME (cringe) when we beat some country that has eight ice pads in their country'.
 
As a Canadian (living in the US) that came back to Toronto for a week, I bought the USA preliminary ticket package. Half the price of the Canadian package, and I still get to see USA vs. Canada tomorrow night.

One, the ticket prices are way too expensive. Posters state that the prairies or small Eastern towns would fare better, but not with these prices. The face value of my 300 level USA/Canada game is $124. That's ridiculous.

Two, someone mentioned the lack of a fan zone. This shocked me. There is no indication outside the arena that anything is going on. No hype, no celebration, no booths, nothing. I came the ACC early for the first game expecting something (maybe at Union Station, even) but you wouldn't even know the WJHC was going on.

Finally, maybe the ACC and the Bell Centre are too big for this event. All the games I've been to so far (no Canada games yet) have had polite cheering and a few chants here and there. Maybe a smaller barn makes it feel more intimate? I wouldn't mind seeing a non-Canadian game at Mattamy.
 
Move it to Minnesota where the high school state tournament is sold out constantly and is the biggest state hockey tournament in the world. Minnesota would embrace this tournament, guaranteed. Minnesotans love hockey at every level.
I would love to see the tournament in Minnesota!!! :) I have thought about it a couple of times as why it hasn't happened yet. Definitely. What about Boston (known for Boston College too)?


That being said, I have no problem with having it in Toronto, Montreal, Calgary, Vancouver, or wherever.
 
I would love to see the tournament in Minnesota!!! :) I have thought about it a couple of times as why it hasn't happened yet. Definitely. What about Boston (known for Boston College too)?


That being said, I have no problem with having it in Toronto, Montreal, Calgary, Vancouver, or wherever.

Minnesotans love hockey but I don't know if they love it so much to go in large numbers to any games not involving the U.S. I very much doubt it myself.

For a sport like hockey,The U.S, like a lot of places, tends to need the home team playing and playing well to get quality numbers.
 
Minnesotans love hockey but I don't know if they love it so much to go in large numbers to any games not involving the U.S. I very much doubt it myself.

For a sport like hockey,The U.S, like a lot of places, tends to need the home team playing and playing well to get quality numbers.

We have a lot of Swedes and Finns living in Minnesota. I think it would draw better than you think. Like another poster said, the state high school tournament annually draws 18,000+ per game at the AA level. The vast majority of those in attendance have nothing to do with any team, they just want to go and watch good hockey.
 
I would love to see the tournament in Minnesota!!! :) I have thought about it a couple of times as why it hasn't happened yet. Definitely. What about Boston (known for Boston College too)?


That being said, I have no problem with having it in Toronto, Montreal, Calgary, Vancouver, or wherever.

Boston hosted the tournament in 1996 and attendance was horrendous. Minnesota would be very interesting, and probably the best test of whether USA could host this tournament without clinging to the Canadian border.
 
We have a lot of Swedes and Finns living in Minnesota. I think it would draw better than you think. Like another poster said, the state high school tournament annually draws 18,000+ per game at the AA level. The vast majority of those in attendance have nothing to do with any team, they just want to go and watch good hockey.

You may be correct but remember that the State tournament has such a history and prestige with the people there, the WJC doesn't.

I still can't see 18,000 in attendance for Sweden-Slovakia or Canada-Russia for that matter.

It would have to be marketed really, really well and ticket prices kept very reasonable to be very successful IMO.
 
You may be correct but remember that the State tournament has such a history and prestige with the people there, the WJC doesn't.

I still can't see 18,000 in attendance for Sweden-Slovakia or Canada-Russia for that matter.

It would have to be marketed really, really well and ticket prices kept very reasonable to be very successful IMO.

I'm not predicting that every game would be a sell-out. But I believe that it would draw better than anywhere else in the US. Regarding Canada games, I'm sure they would be well represented being St Paul is only 5 hours south of the border.
 
I'm not predicting that every game would be a sell-out. But I believe that it would draw better than anywhere else in the US. Regarding Canada games, I'm sure they would be well represented being St Paul is only 5 hours south of the border.

I do agree it would probably be the best attended of any place in the U.S they could have it.

And yeah,plenty of Canada fans would make the trek for their teams games.
 
I'm not predicting that every game would be a sell-out. But I believe that it would draw better than anywhere else in the US. Regarding Canada games, I'm sure they would be well represented being St Paul is only 5 hours south of the border.

Well long as they get good numbers at around 200 for a lower bowl seat. Major fail if they have to sell any tickets at 99 bucks.
 
Boston hosted the tournament in 1996 and attendance was horrendous. Minnesota would be very interesting, and probably the best test of whether USA could host this tournament without clinging to the Canadian border.

Tournament in Boston was horribly promoted and they didn't use the Bruins arena to cut costs. Some games were played in suburban Marlboro and others in Worcester and Amherst. Then when the medal round began the city was hit but a monster blizzard.
 
Tournament in Boston was horribly promoted and they didn't use the Bruins arena to cut costs. Some games were played in suburban Marlboro and others in Worcester and Amherst. Then when the medal round began the city was hit but a monster blizzard.

Yes I know. I had relatives who attended several games.
 
We have a lot of Swedes and Finns living in Minnesota. I think it would draw better than you think. Like another poster said, the state high school tournament annually draws 18,000+ per game at the AA level. The vast majority of those in attendance have nothing to do with any team, they just want to go and watch good hockey.

Yeah Minnesota is probably one of the few places where the sport of hockey is viewed with greater enthusiasm than any particular team.

I think having try WJC there would be great
 
Ticket prices are ridiculous. Nobody here is talking about the game and many are wondering why they didn't play yesterday.

I'll be honest, I have gone to games in Buffalo etc.. before but I didn't even look at the cost for tickets in Toronto this year or 2 years ago. I just assumed they were insane so I didn't inquire and as a result, I didn't go.
 
Living in Toronto, here's my perspective.

2 years ago you needed to buy some ridiculous package to get tickets, I don't even know if they sold single game tickets.

I just assumed the same thing was going on this year so I didn't even bother trying to buy tickets. I would've gone to a game or two if I thought I could get affordable single-game tickets.

Also the prices are ridiculous considering the players don't even get paid.

Also the round-robin is long and almost meaningless since 8/10 teams advance anyways.
 
Yeah Minnesota is probably one of the few places where the sport of hockey is viewed with greater enthusiasm than any particular team.

I think having try WJC there would be great

Interestingly enough hockey isn't as popular as it once was in Minnesota. Grass roots hockey for example took a huge hit. There were articles about this in some big thread (I believe in the business side of hockey section)--there's just too many alternatives, and not just in sport.

To me that's the biggest reason why attendance is bad--even in Canada, even in the hockey mecca of the world, people would rather be spending their entertainment dollars/time on other things whether it be sports, games, cultural events, whatever. There isn't just 1 thing to watch/go to in the city.
 

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