Would you imagine TSN doing the Toronto games in the TSN Studio? That's what RDS does with the games in Montreal for this tournament. They have their worst play by play guy and worst analyst in the RDS Studio a couple of blocks away from the Bell Centre! That says it all.
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down to $35 bucks as of 1pm eastern.
Might be less than $25 bucks by game time.
amazing what supply and demand does to ticket prices.
at this pace, in montreal you might be able to GET PAID to go to a game, lol.
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Stop spewing BS speculation in this thread. RDS are at the arena, as you can see there: https://twitter.com/RDSca/status/813956500926431232 . Also, not sure what your problem is with Leroux, but he's a great junior guy. He's been doing it for many years and covers the Q during the year. By far the most knowledgable guy on RDS. He's also very good at describing the games. This thread has become baseless Montreal/Toronto bashing. Pretty sad.
most people in Montreal are Habs fans, not hockey fans
you want hockey fans in canada, go to the smaller cities and you will see rabid hockey fans who will go tot he WJC's in droves
you want hockey fans in canada, go to the smaller cities and you will see rabid hockey fans who will go tot he WJC's in droves
And I see sparse crowds at Bell Centre for the Denmark-Czech game. I don't know why Hockey Canada couldn't hold some of the less marquee games at the smaller arenas while the major matchups (eg. Finland vs. Sweden, USA vs. Russia) and Canada games can be held at the major arenas like the ACC and Bell Centre.
As for tickets prices, tomorrows game between Denmark and Switzerland at the Bell Centre range from $42-$82. Why would the organizers charge that much for a matchup involving two lesser known hockey nations. That is the equivalent of sitting at the top two rows at the Bell Centre for an NHL game...sheesh.
As for tickets prices, tomorrows game between Denmark and Switzerland at the Bell Centre range from $42-$82. Why would the organizers charge that much for a matchup involving two lesser known hockey nations. That is the equivalent of sitting at the top two rows at the Bell Centre for an NHL game...sheesh.
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This. Centre of the Universe attitude, all that "Mecca" talk seems like propaganda. Habs town in MTL, TO is a massive metropolis with diverse interests.
You put an arena with 18,000 capacity and I bet Regina/Saskatoon would sell that thing out despite being a fraction of a fraction the size. People live and breath hockey in the west. TO/MTL can self-proclaim whatever they want, but the prairie provinces are the true heartland of hockey in this country.
Easier to deflect than accept that maybe those cities don't live and breath hockey in-itself the way they think?
Leroux and Flynn are at the games in Toronto I know that. Lacroix-Therrien the awful duo who do the games in Montreal are in the RDS Studio just a couple of blocks away.
As someone from Montreal I agree that were are not a hockey city, I'm just stating that there would be a little more fans at decent prices but overall were are not fans of this tournament or junior hockey or well hockey in general...In 1978 we had the World Juniors at the Forum with Gretzky Makarov and Fetisov and we could barely get 3000 in there.
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Average attendance in 2008 was 8,834, less then Montreal last year.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_IIHF_World_Championships_by_attendance
Maybe people are judging Montreal and Toronto too harshly...
Are you serious? Montreal is 3Million+ population and 21 300 building and we are having problems getting 4000 in there. At the game now there's probably 2000 in reality.
If you believe those numbers you might as well believe everything the governments tell you...
Just look at the Arena on tv or go there you'll see how many people are there for real.
Just look at the Arena on tv or go there you'll see how many people are there for real.
I doubt it sells out at Toronto prices. It is not just the cost of tickets, it is the cost of everything at full Leafs prices.
And no region is the heartland of Hockey. Saskatchewan may produce the most per-capita, but Toronto produces more NHLers than anywhere else. Just look at the amount of stars who played in Toronto youth leagues at somepoint. McDavid, Stamkos, Tavares, Pietrangelo, Subban, ROR, Seguin, etc.
I'm sure people would be lining up in the praries to see nothing games involving Canada at a venue that charges 12 to 18 dollars a beer and crazy food prices. I went to USA vs Slovakia yesterday and spent more on concessions than I did on the actual ticket.
Also realize we have had the WHC and the upcoming Centenial Classic which have taken some of the money people would allocate to the WJC.
How many people at the game last night USA-Slovakia in reality you think? Not the tickets sold but people actually there?
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The 2010 WJC held in Regina/Saskatoon featured the tiny Brandt Centre arena in Regina for the non-Canada group. The numbers so far are beating Montreals numbers. Regina has about 12% of the population that Montreal does.
The arena in Saskatoon had over 11,000 for every game, Canada playing or not. Latvia v Switzerland had over 13,000 attend. By contrast, Latvia v Russia in Toronto had 6,700. Saskatoon has roughly 8.5% of the population that Toronto does.
Sure, Ontario produces the best talent, but culturally hockey is bigger pound for pound on the prairies I'd argue. The Calgary/Edmonton numbers were massive. I'd imagine a Winnipeg/Saskatoon WJC would put up huge numbers as well.
At what price point? I doubt the prices are anywhere close to what they are in Toronto, which should be factored in. I think you are ignoring how much Hockey Canada is trying to milk from people by having it in a major market, with multiple other hockey options this year.
You can't just give a total attendance figure and ignore what it costs to attend games. No region lays claim to being the heartblood of hockey like you are claiming. Toronto has ridiculous history (plus the Hall of Fame), has 3 OHL teams in the GTA (possibly more depending on how you define the GTA), the Marlies, and the Leafs.
Edit: How can you claim Calgary as a shining example when they aren't at 100% attendence on the year like the Leafs are? Edmonton is at 98.4%.
http://www.espn.com/nhl/attendance
Winnipeg's numbers are skewed (but should be sell outs) due to the Heritage Classic.
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Not saying they don't have a proud history. The greatest players in the game were born in Upper Canada.
The prices, well I just checked Stubhub. Canada v Latvia has tickets on for $45 right now. Switzerland v Denmark have tickets on for $6 right now. Sweden v Czech Republic on Saturday also $6.
QF tickets are in the $12-19 range. Prime lower bowl seats in the ACC QF game for $52.
With a population that size, you'd think the "Mecca's" would easily sell out?
Edit: No doubt Toronto supports the Leafs, my point was hockey support beyond the NHL teams at events like this when the rest of Canada is watching. You can't tell me this looks good on the two cities.
Those are one tickets on the re-sale. Your ignoring the fact a beer at the game is between 12-18 bucks, plus the mark-up on grabbing food. I doubt any other arena that hosts the WJC has those type of mark-ups. People are tired of the NHL or Hockey Canada using us as a cash grab charging prices they wouldn't charge at any other arena.
Tickets on Stub-hub are also the secondary market, check what people had to pay for the original packages.
It is not like the Oilers or Flames sell out every game like the Leafs which I showed in the last post.
The Spaniard
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Senators also having attendance problems despite a good season:
http://hfboards.mandatory.com/showthread.php?t=2135875
Which proves they are not one team cities like Montreal.
Toronto would probably sell a lot more at decent prices, Montreal would probably sell a little more at decent prices...
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Not saying Toronto doesn't support the Leafs. I don't know, in fairness I'm likely being overly harsh. I just hate seeing all those empty seats on the international stage. Other cities would kill to host it, especially when TO/MTL just hosted.
Even a place like London or wherever would have a better atmosphere. What is going on in Montreal especially is just embarrassing, when we host the WJC the arenas should have better attendance than this. Even more so considering how much pride the two cities take in being the major hockey centres, that's my point.
I'm telling you more people in Montreal are tired of the Habs propaganda than thinking we are a great hockey city. The Habs have been an average team for over 20 years. People that love Soccer Football Basketball even hockey fans in general are tired of all the time Habs talk everywhere. You have no idea how it is even in Toronto it's not like that.
At the same time not even Calgary Edmonton Regina Winnipeg etc... would sell all their tickets at those insane prices. A lot more maybe but nowhere near all of them.
At the same time not even Calgary Edmonton Regina Winnipeg etc... would sell all their tickets at those insane prices. A lot more maybe but nowhere near all of them.
