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Boston Bruins 24-25 Roster/Cap thread XII

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The Storm said:
This is a great question.

Carle just coached team USA in the World Junior Championships to back to back gold medals. He is very well regarded. Head coach or bust.

Did I mention the NCAA titles? This guy will not be a PP coach. He's a leader and a winner. He's developed a solid system.


They might want Lohrei instead. Frederic is a given. Petterson is the only guy I would give up a #1 pick for. He was taken #5 overall. He's young. He'll be better than anyone you can draft 15-25. There Bruins desperately need a legit Center. The main problem is his salary. You have to move roster players to make it fit. Vancouver would have to take on salary.
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I thought @PlayMakers did a good job of addressing cap, needs for the Canucks as well as the overall cost. For example, here would be the new cap compliant Canucks roster with two 1st round picks in 2025:

Suter - Miller - Boeser
DeBrusk - Zacha - Garland
Joshua - Frederic - Sherwood
Heinen - Blueger - Hoglander

Hughes - Carlo
Soucy - Hronek
Forbert/Desharnais - Myers

Depth also would have Juulsen Brisebois Lekkerimaki, Sasson. Unreal and then two 1sts. A better team than tonight's lineup as far as spreading cap and depth.
 
PlayMakers said:
I think Sweeney is in his 10th season, and he only has 1 DNQ so far, it was his first year on the job, 2015-16. He inherited a team that missed the playoffs.

I think ownership will say the guy has given us 8 good seasons, we're not going to fire him after 1 bad year. I mean, he has the most points in the league during his tenure (and 5th most playoff wins). He's won GM of the Year. He built a team that got to G7 of the Cup Finals. He's respected around the league...

He is definitely responsible for this year, but with so many guys underperforming all at once, I think they cut him some slack based on his resume up to this point.
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Why not? That's what Sweeney did to all his coaches in this bolded situation.
 
Dr Hook said:
Not sure what we are arguing about here, to be honest. I am not saying Lindholm has been good, but he is a better hockey player than Charlie Coyle- different skillsets to be sure, but if I had to pick one or the other, I'd take Lindholm every time, and the issue is the contract anyway. Don't miss the point that if Coyle signed his deal today, or over the summer especially, with the rising cap, no way it looks like $5.25 million. Is Lindholm overpaid for what he's bringing, yes, but it wasn't a 'bank breaker' like the post I was responding to said.
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Lindholm signed a 7 year contract at 30 years old, he is not living up to it his first year what is year 7 going to be like when he is 37
 
Hookslide said:
Lindholm signed a 7 year contract at 30 years old, he is not living up to it his first year what is year 7 going to be like when he is 37
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Does anyone watch him play here in 2025 and believe 7 years from now he'll still be in the NHL? Or 6 years? Or 5?
 
DKH said:
6-2 Tampa
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I surprised you don’t realize by now we should be a top 5 team every year for 40 years. 4 cups a decade. Do people realize that since 2008 we have played one game yes one game that was meaningless where we couldn’t make the playoffs? One word. We are spoiled Bruin fans. Yes I know we should have Minimum of one or two cups more and that is frustrating but again spoiled fan base.
 
Dr Hook said:
What I never get is if McAvoy has had the persistent injury that was causing him to play below his usual standard and it just now has gotten bad enough to sideline him, why the hell didn't they shut him down earlier before it got worse so he could heal? This seems to happen frequently. I guess the calculation is that an 80% McAvoy is still better than any replacement they have, not now he is out for who knows how long?

**unless the injuy was received in the last game
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You mean we assume something we have no idea if true or not and then criticize management for it based on that assumption?

Then yes, I agree.
 
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Coach Parker said:
I thought @PlayMakers did a good job of addressing cap, needs for the Canucks as well as the overall cost. For example, here would be the new cap compliant Canucks roster with two 1st round picks in 2025:

Suter - Miller - Boeser
DeBrusk - Zacha - Garland
Joshua - Frederic - Sherwood
Heinen - Blueger - Hoglander

Hughes - Carlo
Soucy - Hronek
Forbert/Desharnais - Myers

Depth also would have Juulsen Brisebois Lekkerimaki, Sasson. Unreal and then two 1sts. A better team than tonight's lineup as far as spreading cap and depth.
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When I was younger, us kids used to say "if we combined 2 teams together, they'd love great"..this Canucks line-up reminds me of that..while it's not great, it feels like it's both teams combined haha
 
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Hookslide said:
You are right, why would he do that, and I am not sure a college coach would be my top pick at this time, and I mean no disrespect to Carle. I am risking be tarred and feathered; I am going to put a name out there that I was never a fan of, but always thought he was a pretty good hockey player, but might be someone who help this PP, and I would say not going to cost a lot..........Tony De Angelo, .......OH! am I going to get killed.:popcorn:
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Youre not going to get killed.
But we’ve done this before. We wont be discussing the scumbag further. It doesnt end well.
 
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Hookslide said:
Still have to pay him.
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Unfortunately yes most likely. They could always do the old "give someone else a 1st rounder to take on our bad contract" thing.

Even the biggest pessimist for this signing like myself didn't see this going as badly as it has gone thus far. I figured the early returns would be 55-65 pts and gradually decrease from there.
 
BruinDust said:
Bruins still sitting 6th overall in home attendance % (100.03%). To give that context, San Jose are dead last with 79.49% and then Buffalo at 82.7%. Everyone else is above 90%. Where does attendance need to get to before Delaware North decide to make a change?

On a side note, Pittsburgh sit 27th at 91.01% with Sidney Crosby still part of the franchise. When people talk about trading Sid to a contender, can the Penguins afford to do that? Where does their attendance go without Crosby?
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Does anyone know off hand how far they fell the last time? It’s what got us a Cup. Fans stopped showing up — action ensued.
 
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Number8 said:
Does anyone know off hand how far they fell the last time? It’s what got us a Cup. Fans stopped showing up — action ensued.
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I thought it dropped down to the 14,000-14,500 range in the later part of that 05-06 season but that's just off the top of my head. Someone who had season tickets would be better suited to answer that.
 
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PlayMakers said:
But isn't Vancouver trying to come out of this with an improved team overall?

If Vancouver was a ‘seller’ and wanted prospects, we’d lose that battle easily, but from what I’ve read and heard they want to come out of this without losing their status as a playoff contender. They’re willing to downgrade at 2C (because of the Miller/Pettersson dynamic) in order to upgrade areas of need. They still want to get back a 2C who can play right now, and they want to upgrade their top4, which has been a weakness all season. The rest of the package is value filler.

From that standpoint, it is kind of like the Stuart, Sturm and Primeau deal. And the guys you mentioned from Detroit, with the exception of Edvinsson, aren’t guys playoff teams would trade for.

Carlo and Zacha fill those needs. There would need to be more from a value perspective and I do see what you mean about us lacking a headliner. But who are the roster player headliners from other teams?

Carlo
Zacha
Frederic
1st

Fills all their needs, the cap is close. Who beats it with roster players?
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Swap out Zacha for Coyle and I’m down. Even if another pick is thrown in to sweeten it. I want to keep Zacha and I’m ready to move on from Coyle.

If the numbers don’t work, maybe you can get them to throw in a defenseman like Desharnais. Especially where you’re moving Carlo as well.
 
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PlayMakers said:
I think Sweeney is in his 10th season, and he only has 1 DNQ so far, it was his first year on the job, 2015-16. He inherited a team that missed the playoffs.

I think ownership will say the guy has given us 8 good seasons, we're not going to fire him after 1 bad year. I mean, he has the most points in the league during his tenure (and 5th most playoff wins). He's won GM of the Year. He built a team that got to G7 of the Cup Finals. He's respected around the league...

He is definitely responsible for this year, but with so many guys underperforming all at once, I think they cut him some slack based on his resume up to this point.
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But is that how it should work? Is it about being “fair” based on the arbitrary result of “making the playoffs” or is it about “are we in a good position organizationally and if not is this the best guy we can get to get us there?”
 
22Brad Park said:
He is responsible for some really bad drafting.He inherited Bergeron ,Chara, Krecji , Marchand
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His draft record is actually good. He beats the average despite having the worst average draft position. He picked up franchise cornerstones like Swayman and McAvoy despite not having any top10 picks. That's really rare.

bp14 said:
That 1st should be top 15 if not top 10. We currently have next to nothing for prospects.

Virtually no chance I’d allow that pick to be traded if I was owner. Get a new GM and make sure he makes that pick.
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You can trade it with a protection clause.

DKH said:
I would certainly or expect him fired if they miss the playoffs this season
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You need to proofread your posts.
 
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