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Playoff analysis and thoughts moving forward (mod)

BadgersandBlues

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Hey everyone. Lots of talk about this season and this latest play-off disaster. I thought I'd chime in with some analysis and hopefully lay out the blueprint of what I'd like to see going forward. First, allow me to start by posting my similar post to last year's play-off defeat, and build off of that.

This is what I wrote last year the day after we lost to the Kings:

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"Here are my thoughts about a lot of things after sleeping on it:

First off, we are SO CLOSE. I know a lot of people on here are upset, and rightfully so. But we are literally one, maybe two, pieces away from going on a 5-8 year run where we should challenge for a Stanley Cup. Any other first round match-up we would have crushed. Even Chicago. You have to walk before you can run in the NHL, and this was our coming out party. We honestly out-played the Cup Champions and every game was as razor thin for an outcome as it could have been. The big challenge this off-season will be to not panic, and perhaps make the one-two moves that will swap players we don't see with us long term as being effective to fill the holes we have on our roster.

Here are some thoughts along those lines, going by positions:

1) Coaching: Hitch got out-coached during this series, and it's not even close. Breaking up the CPR line, not using Tarasenko in a role he could be effective in at all, not sitting ineffective players, D-pairing mayhem, etc. All that being said, I want him back next year. Overall he's a good coach, plus I'm tired of us changing coaches and letting the players off the hook. I think unless we miss the playoffs next year, Hitch should be here for two more years at least. I think his messages post game were the right messages to send, especially after the Game 5 and 6 losses. He needed to be positive when it was necessary, but it's obvious that there's a lack of personal accountability in the room right now according to what I've read from JR, and that needs to change. If anyone can affect that kind of change, it's a crotchety, tough-as-nails older coach with a Cup ring on his finger.

2) Goaltending: I like Brian Elliott. He's a guy that's easy to root for. (Plus he won us a National Championship when I was at Madison) I think that he played very well during this series. He gave up -maybe- two goals (I would argue only one) that were soft. We obviously didn't lose this series because of him. I am not a Halak fan. I think he's soft, and -totally- overrated. He's played 7 amazing play-off games in his entire career. That's it. He's been living off them ever since. (He's actually been pulled almost as many times in the play-offs as he's had great games.) I would have no issue moving forward with an Elliott/Allen tandem, or making a trade to get a "True #1 goalie" and have Elliott back-up. Personally, I think we should save money at this position, so I'm all for the Elliott/Allen tandem.

3) Defense: I think it's pretty clear that Jordan Leopold (Even with all the slobbering Hitch gave him via the media) was a huge weak link. He did nothing on the PP once he came over, and other then his first 3-4 games, became increasingly more ineffective every night. I'm pretty sure that had Armstrong known Jay-Bo was going to be available to us, we would never have traded for Leopold. I think next year it's again pretty obvious what we should do at this position; let Leo walk, lock up AP and Shatty, then go back to the D-pairings everyone with eyes knows work well, Jay-Bo/AP, Jax/Shatty, Russell/Polak, with Cole as our extra. I'm not as down on Polak and Jackman as some on these boards, I thought that overall they played well. I think that you almost have to throw out games 5 and 6 as to the effectiveness of the players, b/c everyone was so banged up and tired, everyone was making mistakes. The Kings D were doing the same thing. Polak was a monster in games 1-4. I would like to have seen more from Shatty, but I think Leo was really holding him back, both on the ice and from a Hitch confidence perspective.

4) Forwards: Here's where it gets interesting. To me, this is where we need to focus on making changes. They don't -have- to be during the off-season though. Obviously AMac is gone, and good riddance. I think after their performance in this series, the CPR line is here to stay, maybe not together all the time, but all three of those guys earned a spot in the NHL next year. I think Sobotka, Backes, Tarasenko, Steen, and Schwartz have done enough that we should feel comfortable holding on to them. That leaves Stewart, Oshie, Perron, and Berglund. These guys have all under-preformed at one time or another and are clearly the "Home grown" talent Hitchcock was talking about after Game 6. The trick for management is figuring out which guys can rebound and continue to grow, and which guys can't. I think a lot of who gets moved out of this group (I see a possibility of us moving between all, some, or none of them) depends on which team we're trading with, who we're asking for, and what they need. Also, what the RFAs are asking for contract-wise will make a difference as well. As much as I think a Carter type sniper would be nice, we have guys that can turn into that type of player in Tarasenko and Rattie. What we really need is a #1 C that can distribute, but also play well defensively.

I'll break down my thoughts on each player we might move:

Stewart - Pros: When he's on, he's on. Guy can score like a machine. Drops the mitts. Good size. GREAT speed for his size. Excellent eye-hand coordination. Great hands. Cons: Streaky. Too often doesn't use his size to gain position. Horrible on battles against the wall. Soft. When not scoring, affects other areas of his game. Poor hockey sense and vision. Currently an RFA, I wouldn't offer him more then 3.5 over 4 years.

Berglund - Pros: Works hard, and is hard on himself to improve. Great shot. Size. Improved on face-offs every year. Can win board battles consistently. Defensively sound. Cons: Skating. Skating. Skating. Horrible acceleration and agility. Below average vision and hockey sense. Skating. Lacks willingness to go to the dirty areas. So hard on himself that it affects his confidence. Skating. Currently an RFA, wouldn't offer him more then 3 million on a one year deal.

Perron - Pros: Hard worker. Always striving to improve. Passionate about hockey. Smaller player that is always chippy. Amazing hands/dekes. Vision. GREAT along the boards, excellent at puck control. Cons: Takes stupid penalties. Tries to do too much with the puck at times. Streaky. Gets lazy at times with checking. Currently signed at 3.8 million for the next 3 years.

Oshie - Pros: Hard working. Hustle. Decent hands and vision. Can play all situations. Physical. Average to above average hockey sense. Cons: Streaky scorer. Doesn't shoot enough. Sometimes tries to do too much, and turns the puck over. Injury prone a bit. Can't keep his feet. Currently signed at 4.2 for the next 4 years.

Of those four I think Oshie is the one that is least likely to be moved. We don't look to him for scoring the way we do with Berglund/Perron/Stewart, and he actually has a role on this team when he isn't scoring, unlike Berglund/Perron/Stewart.

Final analysis: As I said before, this team is so close. I know that staying the course is not a popular idea at this time, but I personally think it's the right one. The only moves I think we should make this off-season are locking up our RFAs to affordable deals, and look to move Halak for a decent return. At next year's trade deadline, look to make a deal to fill the holes we still have.

Reasoning: Hitchcock still has yet to get a full training camp in his tenure as our head coach. Another off-season of training for young guys like Rattie, Schwartz, Tarasenko, and Jaskin along with a full training camp/pre-season will do wonders for those guys. I think the condensed schedule hurt us this year, as we have a lot of bigger guys like Backes and Berglund that couldn't really recuperate as much as they had in the past. I'd like to see us bring Lethera over to create some competition for the Center position. I think I'd be less angry with Berglund if he played Wing and shot the puck every time he had it on his stick like Steen. We will have an absolute glut of NHL talented forwards starting next year. That's when we can start making deals for big name superstar players that can put us over the top. Remember, Malkin is a UFA after next season ^.^

Final thought: Have faith. Our ownership and management has shown that they have the savvy and business sense to do what is right for this team. It hurts right now, trust me I know it does. But we have so much good to look forward to."

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Well. First thing I noticed when reading that today was how my faith in this organization has taken quite a hit. I'm not nearly as optimistic this off-season as I was last off-season. That's mainly b/c I don't view Army in the same way I did last year. Army's moves this season have been disastrous. We also have no clue what the plan for this team is anymore. We spent years building up all this "depth" that we could score with by exploiting match-ups and grinding down the other team. I can understand that strategy, and support it. Yet we gave up almost all of our "Depth" assets for nothing that helped us score more, or even really improved our team at all. We traded Perron and Stewart for MPS and Ott, with some draft picks thrown in on both sides. Ott didn't score a single goal for us in 25+ games, and MPS didn't even see the ice during the playoffs. Completely unacceptable asset management. And don't give me that line of reasoning about getting Schwartz and Tarasenko more ice time. The coach decides who gets ice time, not the players. If you want Perron to play 3rd line minutes, there's nothing stopping Hitch from doing that. Tarasenko wasn't seeing PP time at the beginning of the year without Perron anyway.

This is my biggest point of contention with Armstrong this year. As I said in my last end-of-year post, forward was our most glaring need, especially at Center. We finally have all these assets we've developed, to the point where we have a surplus. Yet instead of trading that surplus in a depth-for-best-player move, which I advocated for, we went.......horribly wrong. I don't think Army should be fired yet, but he should absolutely be on the hot seat with how he handled our assets this season. We're clearly not good enough as currently constructed to beat the top teams in the West, what was our record (not counting shootouts) against the Kings/Ducks/Sharks/Hawks? Pretty bad if I remember right. I don't accept the excuse that we had a crappy match-up for the first round having to play the Hawks this year, we were going to have to go through them and also one of the Pacific Big Three to get to the SCF anyway, so who cares (Other then for financial reasons, which I get) if we played them in the first round or the second round. Other then play-off revenue, getting Minnesota in the first round and beating them would have been irrelevant to how good this team really is.

Going by the same format, I'm going to break down our positions with some analysis:

1) Coaching: I still like Hitch. He's done something multiple other head coaches couldn't do with this team, and that's make us a legit contender. Not to mention I don't think there's really anyone else out there that's better. He does need someone to help him with adjustments though, it doesn't seem like he's very good at them. Then again, with our roster and injuries, what was he supposed to do? Play Tarasenko and Schwartz with Berglund? With Roy? Those two aren't finishing the chances that Sobotka missed on. Oshie and Steen were supposed to be centered by whom exactly after Backes went out? Roy? Berglund? Lapierre? I will say that he misused Reaves. Reaves is a great 4th line player, but he's not a 3rd line player. Neither are Porter or Cracknell. Reaves was very effective in game 1 until Hitch shortened up bench b/c the game was close. After the Seabrook hit, the NHL made it clear that no shenanigans were going to be allowed. Hell Reaves got a penalty for hitting a Chicago player clean at the beginning of G3. After that he really didn't have a role in this series. Misusing Reaves wasn't the reason we lost this series.

What I would like to see this off-season is a big push to get Adam Oates to come here and run our PP. He has run the best PP in the League two-three years in a row with different teams. If he can't fix it, then we just have ****** players.

2) Goaltending: Ryan Miller.....yeeech. I wasn't a fan of the trade at the time, not because I think he's a bad goalie, but because I don't think this team needs to pay big money to a goalie, or needed to give up huge assets to get a marginal upgrade in net. We're build as a team. We don't have superstars like Crosby or Getzlaf or Toews that are supposed to carry the mail. When our team is playing well, we win. When it's playing poorly, we lose. I think Detroit had it right all these years, you pay a goalie that's competent, and then use the savings from that position to craft the best team you can have. Worked out pretty well for them. In my last end-of-year post, I advocated for going with Elliott and Allen for this season. I'm going to reiterate that here now. Clearly Allen is ready for the show. He has nothing left to prove in the AHL. I'm also not comfortable just handing him the keys. I think Elliott gets none of the credit he deserves. He has now statistically out-played Halak AND Miller in his tenure with the Blues. I don't get what the guy has to do to be given a shot to be our starting goaltender, and running a 50-32 or 55-27 tandem with Allen. Resign Elliott for 2-3 years at 2.5-3 AAV and have Allen as the backup. Miller can go play wherever he wants, as long as it's not St. Louis. No reason to throw good draft picks after bad.

3) Defense: I think our defense is pretty great, but I wouldn't be opposed to change. AP and Jay-Bo are going to be studs for the next 5 years together. We should be a Cup Contender with those two guys alone on our blue-line for the next half-decade. Neither of them should go anywhere. I've seen a lot of people pretty casually throwing Shattenkirk's name around in an attempt to get that #1 C, but I personally think that's a mistake. The only thing that would change my mind is if we can sign Matt Niskanen, and I'd want him signed first before we trade Shatty. Don't make the Perron mistake again.

A couple of thoughts on Shattenkirk: I've seen a lot of negative press on these boards about Shattenkirk, so I thought I'd give him some personal attention. First off, he was our leading scorer this post-season. That's pretty impressive, and one of the reasons why I don't see how trading him really helps us offensively. Second, we didn't shelter him. Sure, he had his rough moments, but the Hawks are the best scoring team in the League. They have superstar offensive players throughout their line-up. Yet we had the confidence in Shatty to play with them, and frankly, he did. He put up points and he was a -1 for the series. In comparison, his partner, the guy who's supposed to be the rugged stay-at-home D-man that allows Shatty to be more aggressive offensively while protecting the fort, Jackman, was a -5, while also being on the ice for pretty much every breakaway opportunity the Hawks had. Now I am by no means a Jackman hater, I love his heart and grit, but for the guy on the pairing who's supposed to be the shut-down guy, he didn't do his job nearly as effectively as Shattenkirk did his. If we do end up trading Shattenkirk, it better be for a total overpayment.

Finally we get to the bottom three. I'm pretty ambivalent on what we do with Polak/Cole/Leopold. If we keep all three, fine. If someone wants to trade us a great Center and they want one of those guys, I'm fine with that too. My only last stray thought on this topic is that either next year or the year after Father Time is going to start catching up with Jackman and we're going to have to move him down to the third pairing. When that happens I want Polak to be no where near him.

4) Forwards: Ah, the proverbial fly in the ointment. Really not too much to say here that hasn't been hashed out in a million other threads, or in my last end-of-year post. It's pretty simple, not enough skill. Horrible asset management. Gaping, glaring hole at Center. Clearly where we need to spend the most time and money to upgrade. Here are a couple of scenarios that I could see working out well for us:

Morrow, Ott, and Roy walking. I understand that some people think Ott might be worth re-signing, but honestly, Jaskin can fill the role Ott played here for 3 million dollars less. If Jaskin can work on his skating, a la David Backes, he might even become an impact player for us. These three should not be back.

Then it gets a little hazier, due to UFA. If we can get Stastny, that solves our problems without having to go the trade route. We can still choose to trade a guy like Berglund or MPS for more futures, but now we don't have to. If Stastny isn't available, then we absolutely need to make a trade for a Center that can work b/t Schwartz and Tarasenko. Spezza is too old/injury prone. Kesler is a bit beat up, but I wouldn't be opposed to him as he's a bit younger then Spezza, and he'd be getting out of Tortorella's, "Gotta abuse your body" system. Staal is fine if Carolina eats 40% of his salary. I'd like to target a younger guy though, like a Stepan. I see a few teams out there with a ton of Center depth, especially young Center depth: Colorado, NYI, Florida, and to a lesser extent Pittsburgh and NYR if they keep Richards.

Now the question becomes who we trade. I'm actually not that interested in trading Shattenkirk, mainly b/c I think players of his type are almost as hard to come by as a #1 Center. Until Schmaltz or Vanelli are ready to step in for him, I won't feel comfortable moving him. If we somehow luck into getting Niskanen, who is going to get PAID this off-season, as he's the only prime-aged offensive defenseman on the market, then my mind changes as well.

The guy I think we should seriously consider making the main piece in a trade package for a Center is Steen. I love Steen, but there are a few thoughts here.

1) He's one of our older players. True, he's only 30, but for us that's a bit older. I said before the series started (In the Army/Hitch job security thread) that if we bow out again in the first round, we should think about taking a page out of Boston's book and retooling our team around Schwartz and Tarasenko, much like they did with Bergeron. This would be a step in that direction, especially if we can get a young Center from Colorado, NYI, or Florida in return.

2) He's coming off a career year. We already sold low on Perron, missed out selling high on Stewart, and then sold low on Stewart. Let's not continue that trend. Steen is a great player, but I don't think he's cracking 30 goals and a point-per-game next year, or really ever again. I'd mark him down for 22-25 goals and 50-55 points next year, which is solid, but not amazing. That wouldn't be a huge issue, except for that fact that Army just paid him pretty sizable money to be a point per game type player.

3) The UFA market is FILLED with guys who are around Steen's age, and either match or better his career production, who also play LW. Vanek(30), Moulson(30), Gaborik(32), Cammalleri(32), and Jokinen(31) are all around Steen's age, can all match his production, for around the same price. Maybe a bit higher for Vanek, but he really is a better player then anyone else out there.

4) We don't need everyone to be a defensive juggernaut. Backes and Oshie are excellent defensively. We could easily afford to put a player like Vanek or Moulson with them, and not see a drop-off in defensive acumen.

So we have two routes to try. If Stastny is available, then we HAVE to sign him. We could ship out Berglund or MPS for some futures if we chose, perhaps near the deadline to help us recoup the loss of our 1st from the Miller debacle. I don't love Berglund, but I don't think he's been right most of this season. If he wants more then 2.8 million, trade him, otherwise I'm willing to keep him, so long as he plays on the Wing. Our lines would look something like:

Schwartz/Stastny/Tarasenko
Steen/Backes/Oshie
Berglund/Sobotka/Jaskin
MPS/Lapierre/Reaves
Cracknell/Porter

Same D

Elliott
Allen

Not bad overall. It gets a little crazier if we miss on Stastny and trade Steen, b/c Steen alone isn't going to get it done, and we're going to have to convince a UFA to come here. If we miss on the UFA, like we did with VL, that's no good. But in this situation we trade Steen+Berglund/MPS/one of the bottom three Dmen (Polak, Cole, Leopold)+futures. That leaves us looking like:

Schwartz-Center-Tarasenko
Vanek-Backes-Oshie
MPS-Sobotka-Jaskin
Porter/Lapierre/Reaves
Cracknell/XXX

Same D

Elliott
Allen

Definitely a different look. Not really sure which one I like better. Either way should work, and won't handcuff us for the immediate (Schwartz/Tarasenko contracts) future. Should still allow us a solid 5-8 year window.

TLDR: GET AN EFFIN CENTER!

Ok, I'm spent. Feel free to agree, disagree, or flame.
 
Good read. I agree with quite a bit of what you said.

I'll chip in some of my thoughts on the overall direction of the team, and specific players here in a bit. It'll take some time to put that together, and I have other things to attend to at the moment.
 
I really like this write up and am really in an agreement. We do not need to make a lot of changes, but the changes we do make need to be pretty substantial. The D is fine for the most part.... our top 6 need a bit of tweaking. The Center is a real issue and the scoring production is an issue. Steen Backes and Oshie as a 2nd line is key. I do think Schwartz and Tarasenko need a legit awesome centerman to make it. They have the tools and getting better each year. They have what it takes and need a consistant great center that has speed to keep up with them!
 
I get that Halak and Elliot had good numbers and got them this great regular season record but guess who else did that - Roman Turek, Brent Johnson, an end of the line grant fuhr so how many more years is this acceptable. The only reason Halak knows the playoffs is because that is the time of the year he is nursing an injury and Elliot has had TWO chances to prove he can win and guess what he could not, so what wait and go through this bs again next year, this team has not had a legitimate starting goalie since Joseph's last year/Fuhr's first year - almost 20 years that is why the first thing Armstrong needs to do is call the Ducks and trade for Hiller's rights when they are done in the playoffs
 
1) Coaching: I still like Hitch. He's done something multiple other head coaches couldn't do with this team, and that's make us a legit contender. Not to mention I don't think there's really anyone else out there that's better. He does need someone to help him with adjustments though, it doesn't seem like he's very good at them. Then again, with our roster and injuries, what was he supposed to do? Play Tarasenko and Schwartz with Berglund? With Roy? Those two aren't finishing the chances that Sobotka missed on. Oshie and Steen were supposed to be centered by whom exactly after Backes went out? Roy? Berglund? Lapierre? I will say that he misused Reaves. Reaves is a great 4th line player, but he's not a 3rd line player. Neither are Porter or Cracknell. Reaves was very effective in game 1 until Hitch shortened up bench b/c the game was close. After the Seabrook hit, the NHL made it clear that no shenanigans were going to be allowed. Hell Reaves got a penalty for hitting a Chicago player clean at the beginning of G3. After that he really didn't have a role in this series. Misusing Reaves wasn't the reason we lost this series.

What I would like to see this off-season is a big push to get Adam Oates to come here and run our PP. He has run the best PP in the League two-three years in a row with different teams.

Does anyone believe Hitch would be OK with Oats running his pathetic PP. I agree Oats is da man for the job. I doubt he would be interested in returning to an assistant. Someone will pick him up as a head.

As a side note; I feel Brian Elliott will be passed over by the Hitch and that is the reason why IF he remains a Blue Note he'll sit underutilized on the bench. Frankly, I would have started Elliott for game six just to change things up. :amazed:
 
I get that Halak and Elliot had good numbers and got them this great regular season record but guess who else did that - Roman Turek, Brent Johnson, an end of the line grant fuhr so how many more years is this acceptable. The only reason Halak knows the playoffs is because that is the time of the year he is nursing an injury and Elliot has had TWO chances to prove he can win and guess what he could not, so what wait and go through this bs again next year, this team has not had a legitimate starting goalie since Joseph's last year/Fuhr's first year - almost 20 years that is why the first thing Armstrong needs to do is call the Ducks and trade for Hiller's rights when they are done in the playoffs
Hiller isn't even that great of an option. He's been average at best for the last couple of years. Also, we didn't lose last year because of Elliott. Our offense failed, just like it did this year.
 
Great write-up.

My thoughts:

Priority 1: Bring someone in that propels Schwartz/Tarasenko into the primary core slot.
SOB are 3 great players, but they're not readily capable of being gamebreakers. Tarasenko is individually capable. Schwartz is with the correct proxy to play off of. That's not a knock on Schwartz -- he's definitely dangerous, and consistently turns 50/50 plays into high percentage plays, but Tarasenko is individually capable of turning coverage walls in on themselves.

It won't happen next year, but I still think there's another gear in both Tarasenko and Schwartz that gets accessed once Hitch/Mgmt says: "the keys to the offense are yours". A Tarasenko that's not going out of his way to defer to elder statesman is someone that might have made a difference for us this year (/illogical hind-site).

( Also, going back to SOB, Oshie is the straw that stirs that drink. The way that he changes speed really throws coverage off their angles. Steen scored a good chunk of his goals off the space created by Oshie. I hope that gets exploited more, because it got really monotonous watching Steen put himself in physical battles as a means to gaining space. )

Priority 2: Ensure the 3rd line is full of speed and contains 1 +level shooter for Sobotka to exploit.

Part of the reason we lost the series, IMO, was that we truly became a 2-line team post-game 2. Our bottom 6 stopped being threats and Chicago/Q smothered our top 6 with his top 9. Having a third line that's energy oriented, but has a shooting outlet, for a guy like Sobotka, would round out our secondary scoring (and transition offense) very nicely.

This is tricky. It needs to happen, but I'm not sure that it's wise to pull the trigger at this stage with Rattie and Jaskin not far off (though I'm not as high on Jaskin as some). Still, there are decent 3rd line type shooters at, or near, their 30s that might be worth a look at the right price/length (Kulemin, Raymond, etc.)

Odds and Ends:

* Miller: I don't hang the series on him, but pedigree and blind faith are the only points I've seen justifying allocating those dollars to him next year

* Coaching: Keep Hitch, plan for phase 2

* PP: Oates seems like a great option, but he's kind of a dirtbag. I'm not sure Hitch + Oates is a fit. Instead, how about you take one of the units and run it through Tarasenko? We're comfortable doing it with Steen at the point, so what's the harm in doing the same for a guy that hits the net? I'm not calling for a Ovechkin treatment, necessarily, but his ability to make escape passes in tight spaces makes this a no-brainer.

* Ott/Berglund: I'm fine either way as long as it's sub 3.3mil

* Defense: The D doesn't truly need to be fixed, but, I don't feel like our defense has much of an identity. I would welcome moving a guy or two out in an effort to build it around speed and/or puck sense.

* The cupboard: It's time to think about swapping prospects in an effort to fill our C depth. Less of an issue if you land a high profile C, but it's an area of concern that deserves a great degree of attention.

Development:

* Please Jaskin, improve every single aspect of your skating.
* Please PRV, work on your release.
* Please Rattie, get stronger and an explosive first 3 strides
* Please Cole, learn to string together more than 3 good games -- you're the exact blend of talent this team is missing. It might already be too late.
 
I agree with almost everything in this write up.

My only real disagreement is Ott. I think you are vastly overestimating how much he will make. You say Jaskin can do his job for $3 mil less. I don't think there is any chance in hell Ott gets almost $4 mil this year. Best case scenario he will get about what he made on his last contract (just under $3 mil). His offense isn't as good as it once was and he is on the wrong side of 30. While he looked good in the playoffs, he wasn't such a difference maker to justify a raise based on playoff success.

I would guess he is worth $2.75 or so on the open market and may take closer to $2.25 to play for a team he views as a contender. This is still more than Jaskin, but I also think he is currently a better player than Jaskin. IMO, he is worth it at that price as he can be a great 3rd line players and slot up when guys get hurt.
 
Hiller isn't even that great of an option. He's been average at best for the last couple of years. Also, we didn't lose last year because of Elliott. Our offense failed, just like it did this year.

Well the .936 playoff save percentage and 2.24 playoff gaa and 11 - 10 record says he is a better option than Elliott and his 6 - 10, .898 save percentage, and 2.55 GAA. As I said I could care less about the regular season numbers because that has been a staple of St Louis for nearly 20 years. Come playoff time since Elliott has been in St Louis he lets in goals that need to be stopped and he has had two chances to prove he is a playoff goalie and one more win does not make that.
 
Well the .936 playoff save percentage and 2.24 playoff gaa and 11 - 10 record says he is a better option than Elliott and his 6 - 10, .898 save percentage, and 2.55 GAA. As I said I could care less about the regular season numbers because that has been a staple of St Louis for nearly 20 years. Come playoff time since Elliott has been in St Louis he lets in goals that need to be stopped and he has had two chances to prove he is a playoff goalie and one more win does not make that.

And yet, Hiller spent most of the series on the bench behind Andersen. He hasn't been good for the last two years. If you think Elliott was the problem last year, I can't help you. One would think that seeing this team meltdown in the exact same fashion two years in a row would prove that goaltending wasn't the problem.
 
Everyone thinks are D is good well I don't our best defenseman are soft but skilled. When it comes to playoffs soft goes home. JBo and AP shouldn't be paired together because they couldn't handle Toews and Kane. Jackman is the only D that can dish out the punishment but his skills are just gone. Shatty played a horrible series that play against Kane in game 5 was rookie like letting Kane play him into a screen he didn't take the man and that play against Sharp showed weakness. AP and Shatty are good offensive D but they lack defense toughness. Hitch got outcoach again and he won't win us a cup with that kind of coaching. I don't think Miller was all the fault when we don't have a D to clean the crease. How many deflected goals did the Hawks score and how many did we score. Hitch says all the right things but the message is not is still the same and the same results first round exit. The offense has problems but Hitch broke up the best line that was going that was 4th line. Yeah put this on Miller and who knows then next we'll say that oh Allen was too young and so forth. Hitch is the problem he doesn't like to play young players and Pat Roy is proving that wrong with McKinnon :D
 
I think the Blues have hit a bit of a crossroads in their team identity. They have the ability to play multiple styles, and often do based on their opponent, but they don't really excel at any of them.

Against weaker teams that's not really a problem because the Blues general talent and organization tends to win out anyway. However, it's simply not good enough against stronger competition with a dominant style/ability/team identity of their own. Those teams generally end up dictating how the game is played against the Blues, which isn't a winning formula.

The Blues need to have one thing that they truly excel at to go back to when the going gets tough. That thing will be the team's identity, and all personnel moves should support that identity. For the record, "grit" and "toughness" aren't a team identity in the sense that I'm talking about.

Two options are that the Blues could add more skill in an attempt to become a truly elite puck possession team, or add more speed/mobility in an attempt to become an elite backcheck/counter team. Oddly enough, the Blues traded Perron who was a great fit for the former, and Stewart who was a decent fit for the latter, both in the last year. With that in mind, I'll work through my thoughts on our players and how they might fit moving forward.

Steen/Backes/Oshie: None are elite, but I think all three can be a plus player in either system. Backes is the best defensively. Oshie has the best puck possession skills. Steen is the best counter player (and the best at getting the puck to the net). None have any signfiicant deficiencies that would make them a liability.

Schwartz/Tarasenko: I think both are extremely strong fits in a possession system with their instincts, positioning, and puck skills. Both will likely end up better than anyone in the SBO grouping. They can also be plus assets in a backcheck/counter system, but it doesn't play to their strengths quite as well. Schwartz is the better fit there, as his defensive IQ and stickwork are a clear step ahead of Tarasenko's at this point.

Sobotka/Berglund: Both are fairly strong fits as 3rd line centers on possession teams, and significantly worse fits on counter teams. Sobotka has better vision, passing, faceoff ability, and slightly better possession abilities. Downside is that, unlike Berglund, he rarely poses a direct threat to score himself. Berglund makes the better winger, and is the bigger threat off the rush.

Jaskin/Rattie: Both are clearly better suited for a possession game, IMO. Jaskin's utility is fairly limited in a counter system due to his current foot speed. Both still need development.

Roy: Still has decent possession skills, but I haven't seen anything out of him this year to make me think he has a future here. Not a fit in a counter scheme.

Ott/Lapierre: Neither is a really strong possession player, even though they have the puck skills to be assets as such in a bottom 6 role. Perhaps that would change in a different system and with different linemates, but the cost to find out might be prohibitive in Ott's case. Both are serviceable bottom 6 players in a counter system.

Paajarvi/Porter: Better bottom 6 fits in a backcheck/counter system. Porter is a fairly good 4th liner in that system, and Paajarvi has the potential to be a decent deal better than that. Paajarvi is the better fit in a possession system, but it's not a strong fit for either.

Cracknell: Better possession player than either Paajarvi or Porter, but still not really a strong possession player. Not really a great fit in a counter system, either.

Morrow: Currently a poor fit for both systems given his limitations.

Reaves: Not an asset in either system.

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I think a possession system is the optimal long-term approach for our best players and prospects, but obtaining a credible top 6 center becomes a virtual necessity. There's also not currently much in the way of functional organization depth should the injury bug hit, so that would need to be addressed. Drafting strategies would likely need to be altered moving forward.
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With regards to the blueliners, the question now becomes one of just how active the defense should be in the offensive zone. Ideally, you would seen an offense run much like the one Chicago employs with lots of defensive activity in the offensive zone. This goes beyond aggressive pinching and weakside attacks. Their defensemen will actively rotate down into the corners and even go behind the net on the cycle to confuse the defending team. Obviously, the defense would always be encouraged to jump up into the play in transition as well.

My belief is that puck skills, mobility, and hockey IQ are of paramount importance for defenders in a possession scheme. Fortunately, the defense is already constructed in a manner that largely supports this style of play. Pietrangelo, Bouwmeester, and Shattenkirk obviously have tailor-made skill sets, and Vannelli and Schmaltz have the potential to be very good fits as well. Leopold, Cole, and Colaiacovo are passable fits in non-critical/sheltered roles. Jackman and Polak are the worst fits, but upgrading them wouldn't be a critical concern as long as they are paired with a defenseman who could contribute.
 
With regards to the blueliners, the question now becomes one of just how active the defense should be in the offensive zone. Ideally, you would seen an offense run much like the one Chicago employs with lots of defensive activity in the offensive zone. This goes beyond aggressive pinching and weakside attacks. Their defensemen will actively rotate down into the corners and even go behind the net on the cycle to confuse the defending team. Obviously, the defense would always be encouraged to jump up into the play in transition as well.

Do you not think the D plays this way already? I would say they have done this quite often this season, more so than last. It is often what has led to the breakaways and odd man rushes, either with the D pinching in at the offensive blue line and forwards not rotating around to cover and getting caught the wrong side or the D moving up too soon from the defensive zone anticipating a breakout and being caught out of position when the puck is turned over around the defensive blue line. I'm not saying it's a bad thing necessarily, when it works and the D and forwards are in sync it is great but it is quite high risk and if someone makes a mistake or a bad read it can lead to trouble and a high percentage scoring chances.
 
Do you not think the D plays this way already? I would say they have done this quite often this season, more so than last. It is often what has led to the breakaways and odd man rushes, either with the D pinching in at the offensive blue line and forwards not rotating around to cover and getting caught the wrong side or the D moving up too soon from the defensive zone anticipating a breakout and being caught out of position when the puck is turned over around the defensive blue line. I'm not saying it's a bad thing necessarily, when it works and the D and forwards are in sync it is great but it is quite high risk and if someone makes a mistake or a bad read it can lead to trouble and a high percentage scoring chances.
They started out more active at the beginning of the year (although participating in the cycle has never been something the Blues defensemen have done by design), but that gradually disappeared as the season went on and was virtually non-existent in the playoffs. The breakaways the Blues gave up to the Hawks were because of awareness/communication, not because the defensemen were getting caught deep in the offensive zone.

Right now the Blues forwards aren't creating enough on their own, and it's putting a lot of pressure on our defensemen by allowing the defending forwards to play them extremely aggressively up high. When that happens, it effectively neuters our offense. Encouraging the defense to leave the points and move around will punish teams that try to play the Blues that way, and force the defense to react to what the Blues are doing (rather than allowing the defense to dictate the Blues offensive zone play).

It's "high risk," but the Blues have the talent on defense and the awareness among their forwards to pull it off. Honestly, allowing the other team to dominate puck possession (and thus offensive zone time) is high risk for this group as well. The forte of this Blues defense is to retrieve/move/control the puck and generate offense, not to defend the middle of the ice and front of their net against extended zone possession.

The way I see it, the Blues are better off attempting to contest who is controlling the game by playing to the strengths of the players they have.
 
Start with Allen in the net with Elliott as a backup. Get rid of Jackman, Leopold and Colaiacovo. Let Ian Cole play. Use Shattenkirk/Steen + Berglund in a trade package to get a forward. Get Stastny + Vanek somehow.

Allen (Elliott)

Bouwmeester - Pietrangelo
NEW - NEW/Shattenkirk
Cole - Polak

Vanek - Stastny - Tarasenko
Schwartz - Backes - Oshie
Paajarvi - Sobotka - Rattie
Paajarvi/Porter - Lapierre - Cracknell

If Rattie developes like Schwartz and Tarasenko, wow man.
 
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Good post, Easton.

I'd agree that puck-possession is the way to go and we need to add a skilled forward up front to get closer to having that identity.

I share a lot of your same thoughts and it is kind of alarming to me how we seem to be so out-skilled by many other elite teams. With so many first-round picks on this roster I would think we should have more skill, but what can you do. We have good players, just not elite.
 
They started out more active at the beginning of the year (although participating in the cycle has never been something the Blues defensemen have done by design), but that gradually disappeared as the season went on and was virtually non-existent in the playoffs. The breakaways the Blues gave up to the Hawks were because of awareness/communication, not because the defensemen were getting caught deep in the offensive zone.

Right now the Blues forwards aren't creating enough on their own, and it's putting a lot of pressure on our defensemen by allowing the defending forwards to play them extremely aggressively up high. When that happens, it effectively neuters our offense. Encouraging the defense to leave the points and move around will punish teams that try to play the Blues that way, and force the defense to react to what the Blues are doing (rather than allowing the defense to dictate the Blues offensive zone play).

It's "high risk," but the Blues have the talent on defense and the awareness among their forwards to pull it off. Honestly, allowing the other team to dominate puck possession (and thus offensive zone time) is high risk for this group as well. The forte of this Blues defense is to retrieve/move/control the puck and generate offense, not to defend the middle of the ice and front of their net against extended zone possession.

The way I see it, the Blues are better off attempting to contest who is controlling the game by playing to the strengths of the players they have.

Good post, agree with all you say. I think the Blues do aim to be a possession team and create sustained periods of pressure and puck control in the offensive zone, and at their best that is what they do well.

There were a couple of goals in the series that noticeably came from Dmen getting caught out but as you point out it was more bad reads/awareness than being caught deep in the zone. The OT game winner in game 4 (Jackman) and the first goal of game 5 (Polak) in particular come to mind. The Hawks D definitely outplayed the Blues D offensively in the series. Hawks scored several goals from point shots either screened or deflected in front of Miller. The Toews line in particular I thought were able to dominate the boards down low and as the Blues forwards collapsed to the net picked out the open dmen at the blue line.

Several goals also came from poor awareness from the forwards to players moving in behind them for example Steen on Oduya's goal in game one and Oshie on Kane's 1st goal (Hawks 2nd of game) in game 4.
 
OK, assuming the team continues (they've already been trying to obtain this top 6 center, as we all know) to target such an offensive piece, who is there?

Is there another UFA option at center besides potentially Stastny (which looks increasingly doubtful)?

Vanek and Moulson are there at forward, but I'm not convinced the team needs another winger. They need someone to put between Schwartz and Tarasenko in the top 6. They need Sobotka in the 3C spot with probably Jaskin. I don't think Rattie will quite be ready, but perhaps. Perhaps a veteran 3rd line winger with some scoring potential, or for depth, from free agency.

Its productive to have these detailed discussions, but I think if Armstrong were posting here he'd say, "Hey, I've been trying to get a top 6 center for a while now."

If we look at trade options, things could get ugly quickly. I'm not really sure what kind of Kesler we're going to see, assuming he is traded. What trade pieces do the Blues have to bring back a top 6 guy?
Rattie. Berglund will not be worth a lot (and I'd prefer to keep him as the 3rd line winger I mentioned above if the salary is appropriate). Shattenkirk is probably the highest valued trade chip, but I think subtracting him could hurt the offense enough to make the next center a wash. He was the leading scorer this post-season, and was more effective against the forecheck (granted it was the Blackhawks and not the Kings) than in past post-seasons. I'd rather keep him.

Who else can you trade? Steen has been suggested. Oshie has been mentioned. I fear we may be in a situation of robbing Peter to pay Paul if we get a top 6 center. Unless you're dealing in prospects/picks, its going to require parting with roster players that create holes. I don't see anyone in the pipeline who can replace Shattenkirk any time soon.

We also don't know the financials and what the team's internal cap is next season. I fear that the early exit (only 3 playoff games revenue) may put the team in tougher straits. I also think the manner of the team's exit is going to hamper season ticket sales when folks are just reinforced in thinking the team will wilt next post-season, so why bother.

I agree with the strategy of selling futures to maximize the team right now, while the window is open. I don't mind trading picks/prospects who won't be immediate factors to maximize the current line-up, anticipating that eventually there will have to be another rebuild when the window starts to close. (Not sure this is a franchise that can ever sustain itself through UFAs).

But we're at the point where the depth and riches in picks/prospects has dwindled significantly. There may not be enough assets to get the top 6 center, the offensive threat that the team needs.

Then what? Mediocrity for a few years?

To me the most alarming things are:
1) There is a false narrative that the injuries precipitated the end-season slide. In fact they'd already lost 4 straight games before this. Sure there may have been undisclosed injuries, but for the most part there is little explanation for why the team got into such a horrible funk.

2) For nearly the entire 2nd half of the season, the team average a little over 2 goals/game (good enough for 28th out of 30). It went on for a long time. The early success made the season averages still look half-way decent, but this trend is pretty alarming. The PP (as we are all painfully aware) smelled like rotten fish guts. But the early season offensive success dried up when the rest of the league's teams got up to speed.

There's been a lot of noise about the goaltending and what to do next season. But I really don't see any of the options: Miller, Hiller, Allen, Elliott, someone else, as being the key decision that will change things from last year. Unless Allen comes in to be the next Patrick Roy (man, how great would that be) I don't see how the goaltender can fix the PP or improve the goals for average.

The bright spots in my opinion:
1) Tarasenko was a revelation. I still don't know how high his ceiling is. I'll be shocked if he isn't the team's leading goal scorer next season, and maybe he'll make noise in the league race. He will if there is another line that is a dangerous scoring threat. Is that the SOB line?

2) Shattenkirk took a step forward in how he handles physical play. I was disappointed with some of his defensive decisions in the playoff series, but overall he was a big contributor on the ice.

3) Allen had a great season in the AHL. He should be a cost-controlled roster player next year regardless of whether its the back-up or whatever. He continues to look like a future NHL starter for the Blues, and maybe sooner than later.

4) Steen had a career season. What does that look like next year? What I HOPE it looks like is the SOB as the 2nd line and shut-down group, with an elite top line of Schwartz - CENTER - Tarasenko. If the SOB line doesn't have to be the main workhorse, I think it will be very effective. I think what we saw down the stretch is that they aren't good enough to carry the load against good teams. The Blues need more out of the Schwartz/Tarasenko line, and they can get that with a more offensively dangerous center (someone who can also be a threat to score).
 
The more I think about it, the more I want to make some changes to the defense. I know Easton touched on wanting to make the defense more mobile and in the mold of Chicago's in terms of aggressiveness in the offensive zone. I completely agree, and think that would make a huge difference fo rus. I want this team to be more mobile and have the defense be more involved in the offensive zone. I wouldn't mind moving Polak and bringing in a mobile puck mover who is capable defensively to play with Shattenkirk. He played pretty well at the Olympics when paired with Fowler.
 
A question on the powerplay:

Does anyone know what the triggering event was for the Blues to essentially abandon the half-wall and go back to only working from the points? I know it started sowewhere around December. I cannot imagine the entire team as one decided it was unsporting to score on the PP and instead elected to merely kill 2-5 minutes instead.
 
A question on the powerplay:

Does anyone know what the triggering event was for the Blues to essentially abandon the half-wall and go back to only working from the points? I know it started sowewhere around December. I cannot imagine the entire team as one decided it was unsporting to score on the PP and instead elected to merely kill 2-5 minutes instead.

All of our scoring troubles started at the same time (including the PP.) It was just after probably the best stretch of play for the team all season, when Steen, Backes and a few other key guys were all out injured and Oshie stepped up huge. That January game against Vancouver when we got all our key guys back, is when everything started going downhill. We lost that game 2-1, from that point on the team really struggled noticeably the rest of the season to score, whether it was 5-5 or on the PP. From that game on you could just see the offense wasn't coming as natural to them as it had from October thru Mid-January.
 

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