Salary Cap: Pittsburgh Penguins Salary Cap Thread: Everything is proceeding as I foreseen

[KIRK]

Well, you’re better off seeing how Poulin looks on L3 if he even makes the team and seeing what ZMR does with a healthy Malkin and some more normal time together. Bonus seeing how things look without JJ behind them.

3rd line Zucker might mean trading him or McCann for a 3C.

Oh, I know that's what they will do . . . instead of what actually worked last season (Jake-Malkin-Rust and Sid paired with Zucker).

 

[Speaking Moistly]

McCann for Bonino

Okay, JR.

 

[Tom Hanks]

 

[Gurglesons]

Because @Gurglesons pushed him into oncoming traffic?

I’d go down in the public eye for the murder. Not something that could be viewed as JJ simply walking down the street like he plays hockey.

 

[Ugene Magic]

Oh, I know that's what they will do . . . instead of what actually worked last season (Jake-Malkin-Rust and Sid paired with Zucker).

In the end I'll still stand by my stance of adding that one guy who can actually make a line work. They have all the fillers they can handle. Now I'm not opposed to a winger being that guy, but I don't think it is McCann, Zucker or whoever, though.

Unless... they want to go..

Zucker, Crosby, __?__
__?__, Malkin, Rust
Guentzel, McCann, Kapanen

So..Poulin could conceivably be Geno's LW or Sid's RW, but who's the next filler? O'Connor?

They certainly can survive a tryout. I'm not sold on the centers at hand, if they upgrade that position Guentzel moves back up wherever.

 

[KIRK]

In the end I'll still stand by my stance of adding that one guy who can actually make a line work. They have all the fillers they can handle. Now I'm not opposed to a winger being that guy, but I don't think it is McCann, Zucker or whoever, though.

Unless... they want to go..

Zucker, Crosby, __?__
__?__, Malkin, Rust
Guentzel, McCann, Kapanen

So..Poulin could conceivably be Geno's LW or Sid's RW, but who's the next filler? O'Connor?

They certainly can survive a tryout. I'm not sold on the centers at hand, if they upgrade that position Guentzel moves back up wherever.

They won't do that.

 

[Ugene Magic]

They won't do that.

But they should. Look at teams with similar issues like this, they move a top six down to create depth.

 

[Jobeycool]

• maybe JJ and MM both get moved at the draft,but this is not looking good for a 1rst rounder..

 

[Gurglesons]

But they should. Look at teams with similar issues like this, they move a top six down to create depth.

Who exactly does that?

 

[Rakell67]

Who exactly does that?

TB Lightning did it no?

 

[Jobeycool]

In the end I'll still stand by my stance of adding that one guy who can actually make a line work. They have all the fillers they can handle. Now I'm not opposed to a winger being that guy, but I don't think it is McCann, Zucker or whoever, though.

Unless... they want to go..

Zucker, Crosby, __?__
__?__, Malkin, Rust
Guentzel, McCann, Kapanen

So..Poulin could conceivably be Geno's LW or Sid's RW, but who's the next filler? O'Connor?

They certainly can survive a tryout. I'm not sold on the centers at hand, if they upgrade that position Guentzel moves back up wherever.

 

[Gurglesons]

TB Lightning did it no?

No. If anything they do the opposite of it and stack their top line just like every team in the league does these days except us.

 

[Jobeycool]

In the end I'll still stand by my stance of adding that one guy who can actually make a line work. They have all the fillers they can handle. Now I'm not opposed to a winger being that guy, but I don't think it is McCann, Zucker or whoever, though.

Unless... they want to go..

Zucker, Crosby, __?__
__?__, Malkin, Rust
Guentzel, McCann, Kapanen

So..Poulin could conceivably be Geno's LW or Sid's RW, but who's the next filler? O'Connor?

They certainly can survive a tryout. I'm not sold on the centers at hand, if they upgrade that position Guentzel moves back up wherever.

They would have to draft those 2 spots,they cost to much money.Maybe Sam Poulin can play with Sid?

 

[Ugene Magic]

Who exactly does that?

Chicago, LA did it, Tampa was crazy flooded and the Pens themselves.

 

[Gurglesons]

Chicago, LA did it, Tampa was crazy flooded and the Pens themselves.

When did Chicago or LA put their 1st and 3rd best wingers on the 3rd line?

The top six in 2012 was Brown Kopitar Williams / Penner - Richards - Carter. In 2014 it was Gaborik - Kopitar - Brown / Pearson - Carter - Toffoli.

CHI has always ran Kane, Toews, Hossa in the top six.

 

[66-30-33]

When does JJ have that kind of buyout? 916K every year? why the f*** are we NOT doing it?

 

[Jobeycool]

When does JJ have that kind of buyout? 916K every year? why the f*** are we NOT doing it?

Mario Lemieux is prob why

 

[Borgir]

Off topic, I was sure pissed when I heard Rick Moranis was assaulted the other day.

 

[Ugene Magic]

When did Chicago or LA put their 1st and 3rd best wingers on the 3rd line?

Chicago dropped Hossa, and LA had some depth created by moves just as the playoff came about and added Carter the first year who plays both wing and center, and the following cup they won they brought in Gaborik. They were flooded with top six caliber wings.

You are limiting it to wings, but top six talent was dropped for all of those teams.

 

[Rakell67]

No. If anything they do the opposite of it and stack their top line just like every team in the league does these days except us.

I thought Tyler Johnson was a top 6 forward.

 

[Riptide]

@Tom Hanks

That’s not really up to the Pens though. Income for teams will be down, he still has 3 years, he’s not very good and how good are our sweeteners really to take him on.

Would you take on JJ for an extra 2nd round pick or any of our “moveable” prospects? Term is the killer.

JR is going to have to call in a favour or “owe” someone to move JJ.

On the flip side, JJ is only owed 8.25m over those 3 years. Less when JR likely has to retain a little of that. Paying a D ~2-2.75m or so (dependent on what JR retains) isn't all that expensive big picture.

 

[66-30-33]

Mario Lemieux is prob why

Pretty sure Marios share of the team is very small now, it's mostly Burkles IIRC.

 

[Jules Winnfield]

With no Simon:

Guentzel-Crosby-Kapanen
Zucker-Malkin-Rust
Poulin/O'Connor-McCann-Tanev
UFA-Blueger-Sceviour
Lafferty-ZAR

Sounds about right to me.

That bottom six is going to be the death of us. If the top six doesn’t score the bottom six sure as hell won’t unless GMJR pulls a rabbit out of his ass to get some higher end depth there.

Each time we won the cup our bottom six was our competitive advantage. As currently shown on paper that’s a lot of bleh.

 

[Tom Hanks]

@Tom Hanks


On the flip side, JJ is only owed 8.25m over those 3 years. Less when JR likely has to retain a little of that. Paying a D ~2-2.75m or so (dependent on what JR retains) isn't all that expensive big picture.

Yeah that’s true. The 3 years wasn’t just because of money though it’s 3 years of a bad player. Do we have the sweeteners (we’d give up) good enough for a team to accept it?

There’s a good chance a team could get a better D man for less term and/or money in free agency or take on something that works better in trade.

 

[ncm7772]

As currently shown on paper that’s a lot of bleh.

An understatement!