Proposal: Pitt/Mont

ole ole

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That's fine but don't get your panties in bunch when another fan base states that its not what they are looking for in trades because of the current lifecycle of their team. Pittsburgh should not be trading for 30ish year old players without picks/prospects being attached. Pittsburgh is headed in the wrong direction for doing chair deck trades.
No Panties in a bunch.

Hab should not be trading a 30 yr old for a 37 yr old who also has a longer/and bigger caphit. That's plainly ridiculous.
 

Dipsy Doodle

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Aside from the obvious duration and age factors, another aspect fans often ignore but plays an important part is real dollars.

6.6M$ to an owner looking at no playoff revenue snd empty seats during a rebuild is not insignificant
Letang makes 6.1 mil per and has been a #1 defenseman for years, right up to last year.

Anderson makes 5.5 mil per and has been a shit 3rd liner for years.

19 games for either doesn't change that, unless one has the memory of a goldfish.
 

ole ole

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Letang makes 6.1 mil per and has been a #1 defenseman for years, right up to last year.

Anderson makes 5.5 mil per and has been a shit 3rd liner for years.

19 games for either doesn't change that, unless one has the memory of a goldfish.
Good keep him because i don't want Letang near our roster.
 

Baksfamous112

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The cap rising and the contract make up of our defense makes it manageable imo.

Letang fits what we need next 2 years, by year 3, cap level means 6M isn't as much of the overall %...
No, it does not. If Letang had this year and next left on his contract? Sure, that could do it. 3 years after this one? Yeah, it’s just not going to happen.

Letang makes 6.1 mil per and has been a #1 defenseman for years, right up to last year.

Anderson makes 5.5 mil per and has been a shit 3rd liner for years.

19 games for either doesn't change that, unless one has the memory of a goldfish.
Should a team pay for past performance or for future performance? Because he’s 37 going 38 this year and his contract run until he’s 41-42.
 

ole ole

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No, it does not. If Letang had this year and next left on his contract? Sure, that could do it. 3 years after this one? Yeah, it’s just not going to happen.


Should a team pay for past performance or for future performance? Because he’s 37 going 38 this year and his contract run until he’s 41-42.
Habs should have no interest in a declining 37 yr old player period.
 

Dipsy Doodle

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Good keep him because i don't want Letang near our roster.
Gladly haha

Should a team pay for past performance or for future performance? Because he’s 37 going 38 this year and his contract run until he’s 41-42.
How about performance, period?

What exactly has Anderson done at any point in their respective careers to make anyone think his value is equal to Letang's? Or will be going forward?
 

Baksfamous112

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Gladly haha


How about performance, period?

What exactly has Anderson done at any point in their respective careers to make anyone think his value is equal to Letang's? Or will be going forward?
Because Anderson is 30 and only has 2 years after this one. He’s manageable on our cap and is still a useful, physical player. He’s also not currently falling off a cliff.

Letang on the other hand, has another 3 years after this one. He’s turning 38 in April and is clearly on a steep decline. I don’t know which « performance » you’re referring to but a 37 years old offensive D with PP1 minutes who has 6 pts in 19 games and -11 already isn’t what I would call someone who is performing right now.
 
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Letang makes 6.1 mil per and has been a #1 defenseman for years, right up to last year.
Yes, in the past he was a very good #1, not elite, but just below that group.

Today, he's 37, on pace for a career worst season.

He'll be 38, 39, and 40 at the start of his last 3 years in this contract.

Last year is meaningless in assessing his current trade value.

Anderson makes 5.5 mil per and has been a shit 3rd liner for years.
Nah ... He's been a mediocre bottom six player mostly, but this year his level of play and output has actually improved a bit.

Habs approach is definitely not a great fit for him overall, but he seems to be settling in.

His contract is bad, but it's reasonable to expect his level to stay pretty steady next two years.

I wouldn't touch him past 33 except as a 4th liner and paid as such, but that's not material to his current value.

19 games for either doesn't change that, unless one has the memory of a goldfish.
Your petty comment aside, this post suggests you, like the pens management that assembled this roster, mistakenly over estimate past performance in assessing current state.

1/4 of a season isn't what changed, age is.

For someone so caught in the past, one would think you understand that precedent is few players maintain performance levels past their mid 30's, and that decline is steep rather than linear. Surprised how confusing this appears to be for you.

No, it does not. If Letang had this year and next left on his contract? Sure, that could do it. 3 years after this one? Yeah, it’s just not going to happen.

I disagree. Year 3 is still well within the window where the Habs will have a large volume of rister players on ELC or first RFA deals. And you continue to ignore the buy out or retained trade options should that cap room be viewed as necessary elsewhere.
 

ole ole

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Gladly haha


How about performance, period?

What exactly has Anderson done at any point in their respective careers to make anyone think his value is equal to Letang's? Or will be going forward?
As of today. Younger Cheaper Shorter team. That is what is important to a rebuilding team. Not a declining 37 yr old with 3 ys remaining on his contract. Like i said keep him.
 

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