Proposal: [PIT] [ANA] Poulin for LaCombe

[OtherThingsILike]

PIT gives: Samuel Poulin.
ANA gives: Jackson LaCombe.

I'm thinking that this is a trade of 23-year-olds that seem to be underwhelming to their current teams and who might benefit from a change of scenery.

Poulin is a forward who has played both center and wing.
LaCombe is a left-shot defenseman.

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[SEALBound]

I'm not sure the Penguins would be interested in this at the moment. Even though they suck, they are pretty set at LD with Pettersson, Gryz, and Graves and they have Shea to fill in as well as Pickering in the AHL. Not to mention wherever Aho could fill in.

Poulin was PPG in the AHL. I think at the moment I'd rather give him the chance in the NHL to see how it goes. Now if we trade any one of the aforementioned dmen and Poulin stinks up the NHL, then I'd consider it.

 

[Empoleon8771]

I feel like Anaheim probably wouldn't go for that.

 

[OtherThingsILike]

I'm not sure the Penguins would be interested in this at the moment. Even though they suck, they are pretty set at LD with Pettersson, Gryz, and Graves and they have Shea to fill in as well as Pickering in the AHL. Not to mention wherever Aho could fill in.

Poulin was PPG in the AHL. I think at the moment I'd rather give him the chance in the NHL to see how it goes. Now if we trade any one of the aforementioned dmen and Poulin stinks up the NHL, then I'd consider it.

I was thinking that since Pettersson is likely going to be traded, it would make sense to try to have another defenseman on hand already, instead of trying to replace him afterward with someone who is already in the system.

 

[MMC]

What gives you any indication a team would be willing to trade a young player that they’re clearly high on for some bozo who cleared waivers?

 

[FiveTacos]

Poulin was PPG in the AHL. I think at the moment I'd rather give him the chance in the NHL to see how it goes. Now if we trade any one of the aforementioned dmen and Poulin stinks up the NHL, then I'd consider it.

If he stinks it up in the NHL, why would the Ducks trade a young dman who's at minimum already a bottom pairing NHL guy, and still has 2nd pairing upside? I wouldn't give that up for a guy who has yet to show he's more than a good but not great AHL player who's the exact same age.

 

[Gaylord Q Tinkledink]

What gives you any indication a team would be willing to trade a young player that they’re clearly high on for some bozo who cleared waivers?

Because HF

 

[57special]

Don't see the Ducks moving Lacombe for that. He's not perfect, but has size, skating, some skill. I thought he was a talented airhead in his college career till his last season, when he really pulled it together. He is now a NHL regular.

Poulin, OTOH, isn't a NHL regular, and it's not certain he ever will be.

 

[OtherThingsILike]

What gives you any indication a team would be willing to trade a young player that they’re clearly high on for some bozo who cleared waivers?

I was reading the opinions of Ducks fans who were underwhelmed with LaCombe's play.

What gives you an indication of how Ducks management feels about LaCombe?

 

[SEALBound]

If he stinks it up in the NHL, why would the Ducks trade a young dman who's at minimum already a bottom pairing NHL guy, and still has 2nd pairing upside? I wouldn't give that up for a guy who has yet to show he's more than a good but not great AHL player who's the exact same age.

Because I think "stinking it up in the NHL" under Mike Sullivan and current Penguins team is not the ultimate death nail in a player's NHL career. Numerous players have moved on from the Penguins and have found success.

 

[FiveTacos]

I was reading the opinions of Ducks fans who were underwhelmed with LaCombe's play.

He's not perfect. He makes gaffes still, and that tends to draw fan ire; but part of that is also he's not been sheltered as much as some of the younger dmen. And in any case, he's absolutely better than a bunch of garbage that parades as 3rd pairing dmen around the league, and is a sure thing NHLer. Only question is if he cleans his game up enough to be a 2nd pairing guy with skill and a little size, or if he remains a 3rd pairing dude.

What gives you an indication of how Ducks management feels about LaCombe?

Last year they played him in tougher situations than their other young players, they talked about how hard he's worked this offseason, and as soon as he was healthy he was back in, even if it meant one of their other vaunted youngsters sat (or in Luneau's case, got sent down).

 

[Zegs2sendhelp]

I was reading the opinions of Ducks fans who were underwhelmed with LaCombe's play.

What gives you an indication of how Ducks management feels about LaCombe?

Some duck fans love lacombe and some hate him..

Lacombe is kinda Jack of all trades defensemen, master of none…. But he plays both sides and fills in throughout the line up….. i think he’s a nice piece to keep on our roster while we continue to develop as a team.

I wouldn’t call him a core piece going forward, and would potentially trade him but I don’t think Poulin is enticing enough

 

[FiveTacos]

Because I think "stinking it up in the NHL" under Mike Sullivan and current Penguins team is not the ultimate death nail in a player's NHL career. Numerous players have moved on from the Penguins and have found success.

Fine, but you don't give up a young player who's the same age but who has shown he CAN be an NHL player for that. Maybe inquire about a 23 year old dman who looks good in the AHL but hasn't yet shown he can play/stay in the NHL.

 

[DesertPenguin]

I'm not sure the Penguins would be interested in this at the moment. Even though they suck, they are pretty set at LD with Pettersson, Gryz, and Graves and they have Shea to fill in as well as Pickering in the AHL. Not to mention wherever Aho could fill in.

Poulin was PPG in the AHL. I think at the moment I'd rather give him the chance in the NHL to see how it goes. Now if we trade any one of the aforementioned dmen and Poulin stinks up the NHL, then I'd consider it.

What if we expanded the deal to include Grzelcyk and a bad contract F from Anaheim? Open a spot on D.

 

[SEALBound]

What if we expanded the deal to include Grzelcyk and a bad contract F from Anaheim? Open a spot on D.

Zegras? Sure.

 

[DesertPenguin]

Zegras? Sure.

I feel ill typing this but

Poulin
Grzelcyk

For

LaCombe
McGinn

 

[SEALBound]

I feel ill typing this but

Poulin
Grzelcyk

For

LaCombe
McGinn

No. I don't hate Gryzelcyk enough to bring McGinn back.

 

[DesertPenguin]

No. I don't hate Gryzelcyk enough to bring McGinn back.

Straight to the A and eat the cap space till his contract expires end of the year.

 

[SEALBound]

Straight to the A and eat the cap space till his contract expires end of the year.

All just to get an underwhelming AHL dman for Poulin? Meh. I think that overcomplicates things. I'd rather find someone that needs Gryz and send him out for a 4th.

 

[MMC]

I feel ill typing this but

Poulin
Grzelcyk

For

LaCombe
McGinn

Less than 0 interest in this

 

[MMC]

I was reading the opinions of Ducks fans who were underwhelmed with LaCombe's play.

What gives you an indication of how Ducks management feels about LaCombe?

The front office and coaching staff has consistently spoken highly of him, never assigned him to the AHL, and given him tough minutes over several other of our young D

 

[McDonald19]

I feel ill typing this but

Poulin
Grzelcyk

For

LaCombe
McGinn

Strangely enough McGinn is playing well for the Ducks and they don’t to move him at the moment.

 

[SomeDude]

Sprong for Pettersson 2.0

I’ll take it.

 

[DesertPenguin]

Strangely enough McGinn is playing well for the Ducks and they don’t to move him at the moment.

I mean Anaheim has no cap problems so maybe a bad for bad swap isn't necessary. I'm fine just sending Gryzelcyk to WBS, or just shooting him into the sun.

In concept though, another Sprong for Pettersson deal is what we're looking for.

 

[Crazy8oooo]

All just to get an underwhelming AHL dman for Poulin? Meh. I think that overcomplicates things. I'd rather find someone that needs Gryz and send him out for a 4th.

Who’s the underwhelming AHL dman you speak of?