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Orfieus said:
We've never really seen AJ play in Keefe system yet, for all we know he is going to be a stud

... that being said he is very much the odd man out and if someone has to be traded I think it should be him (obviously after Ceci but Ceci has negative trade value)
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Ceci has cap space value... send him to the minors, bring up Liljegren or Marincin and we save roughly $3.75m in cap space. Enough to buy us a very good backup goalie and leave some flexibility for a deadline addition. If Ceci doesn't show some good consistent play, this feels like an obvious move.
 
TDotMassive said:
Ceci has cap space value... send him to the minors, bring up Liljegren or Marincin and we save roughly $3.75m in cap space. Enough to buy us a very good backup goalie and leave some flexibility for a deadline addition. If Ceci doesn't show some good consistent play, this feels like an obvious move.
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Ceci would still be a $3.5mil cap hit if he's sent to the minors. Only way we get his cap space to use is finding some other team to take him.
 
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Optomist said:
This is what happens when you take every last dime that you can on your contract. Now we are a couple hundred grand away from keeping a really good young player. Is your life really gonna be that much better if you make 10 million a year as opposed to 11?
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still a million dollars, thats like expenses for the player
 
A1LeafNation said:
Why can't you trade Ceci #6 for Liljegren another #6.

Cap space solved.
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Because nobody and I mean Nobody is taking Ceci at 4.5. I would trade him in a heartbeat if I could, guy has been awful. Looks scared 99% of the time and every partner he plays with is worse because of his play.

To most of the posters point I trade AJ, we have too many players like him and Robertson should be up in a year or two. Kap May have his issues but he is a solid PKer and has great speed.
 
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Orfieus said:
Technically it would be his (cap hit) - $700k
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It would be roughly $3.4 million of cap hit still on the books for demoting Ceci (if that is what we are still discussing).
 
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Funk21 said:
Because nobody and I mean Nobody is taking Ceci at 4.5. I would trade him in a heartbeat if I could, guy has been awful. Looks scared 99% of the time and every partner he plays with is worse because of his play.

To most of the posters point I trade AJ, we have too many players like him and Robertson should be up in a year or two. Kap May have his issues but he is a solid PKer and has great speed.
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I think they are waiting until Johnsson comes back. They don't have to trade Ceci until they have to.

Liljegren gets a little extra time in the AHL and RHDs a tradable and scarce asset in the NHL especially on an expiring deal.
 
Love the way he plays, especially on the PK. 6 points may not seem that impressive, but this guy knows his role and plays his ass off. Extremely happy with how he's performed.
 
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Leafs at Knight said:
Debatable. AJ is a better player than Engvall, has outscored him every year, and got 20 goals last year as a rookie which people quickly forgot.
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Definitely agree with this. Johnsson went on a tear last year when he finally got consistent minutes in the top nine, and was one of the highest producing LWers in the entire NHL. This season his even strength shooting percentage is really low, something that is bound to regress, and I'm sure that if he continues creating the amount and quality of chances he's created all season on Matthews' LW, he'll be scoring in bunches in 2020. Like all depth scorers, he's going to go through slumps, and have hot stretches. Unless you're Auston Matthews or John Tavares, you're probably not going to score in more than 20-25% of the games.

I'm not saying I wouldn't explore trading him...I think for all his offensive prowess, he's a bit lacking as a defensive option. His backtracking ability on the backcheck seems poor, and he loses himself playing in-zone defense...but alternatively he's shown a much better ability than say, Kapanen, to play alongside talents like Matthews, Tavares, Marner, & Nylander, without inhibiting them. Engvall's PK ability and propensity for defensive hockey seem to fill more obvious weakness and needs for this team, but I still definitely think Johnsson is the better overall player, and I certainly wouldn't trade him just to free up cap-space for a guy who has played 16 games in the NHL. It would have to be in the kind of move that brings back a solid defensive defenseman, good backup goalie, etc.
 
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StevenB said:
Imo Kapanen gets moved before Johnsson. I really think Johnsson will flourish in Chief Keefe’s system and we have Kap-lite in Moore
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Kapanen has rockets and is a pretty good finisher on breakaways but little else.... he kills alot because he has blinders and his hands and mind cant keep up eith his speed. To be effective with top players, hed be better suited to play like Hyman and be more of a gopher/puck hound then a puck handler. He needs to wait for the skilled guys to send him on breakaways, and focus on geting the puck to marner or the defense.

Its frustrating watching him with the puck....and frustrating watching him in the top 6.
 
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Monsieur Gustave H said:
I like his height & length, it gives us something different that the abundance of small skilled players don't.
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It's so frustrating to watch the waterbugs skating a million miles an hour buzzing around but don't have the size, weight or reach to beat a guy, but then with Mikheyev and Engvall you can see how they can use their length and speed to really cause disruptions to the opposition's point guys, start odd man rushes the other way.
 
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Antropovsky said:
Kapanen has rockets and is a pretty good finisher on breakaways but little else.... he kills alot because he has blinders and his hands and mind cant keep up eith his speed. To be effective with top players, hed be better suited to play like Hyman and be more of a gopher/puck hound then a puck handler. He needs to wait for the skilled guys to send him on breakaways, and focus on geting the puck to marner or the defense.

Its frustrating watching him with the puck....and frustrating watching him in the top 6.
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He's kind of like a lighter Nikolai Kulemin. Speedy player with nominally good hands but seems to be held back by a straight away/zero hockey sense. Just likes attacking in straight lines, and when he picks the wrong one it's utterly ineffective.
 
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Stephen said:
It's so frustrating to watch the waterbugs skating a million miles an hour buzzing around but don't have the size, weight or reach to beat a guy, but then with Mikheyev and Engvall you can see how they can use their length and speed to really cause disruptions to the opposition's point guys, start odd man rushes the other way.
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They're both deceptively fast.

It's nice to have a farm team that can produce a steady stream of NHL forwards, rather than hoping Matt Frattin amounts to something. Hopefully our defensive development catches up.
 
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Monsieur Gustave H said:
They're both deceptively fast.

It's nice to have a farm team that can produce a steady stream of NHL forwards, rather than hoping Matt Frattin amounts to something. Hopefully our defensive development catches up.
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Yeah, instead of building one Matt Frattin, a development system really needs to be hot housing 5-6 viable forwards at a time and judiciously promoting them into gaps in the roster.
 
This guy is unreal defensively, wins a lot of puck Battles and tries really hard. 3 things the leafs lack.
 
Kap is in his second full season and is what 23. His production is what .5 per game after a dreadful start to the season. Does he have some areas to improve sure but he has speed for days, defensively responsible, decent size, can score and engaging physically.

Kap will never be a main stay on our top 6 but that is okay because we have:

Hyman Matthews Marner
Mikheyev JT Nylander
Engvall Kerfoot Kapanen

Those are three very solid lines that can be used to mix and match should they need too. Plus he has shown that he can jump up if needed, it’s not ideal but he can.

As many have said we don’t need another water bug like AJ, he is talented no doubt but we need a top 4 RHD and or some size and Grit. Furthermore if we can save 1-2 million it would help out immensely.
 
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